The Bride of Christ
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Michael S. Blanchard
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He is speaking of recalling the Lost Ten Tribes, and the rest of the Israelites, who are not all Jews, back to the Holy Land.
Ronald Nolette
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Israelites are of the twelve tribes. You cannot be Jewish and not descended from one of the twelve sone of Jacob.
Jim B
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Incorrect. You can become Jewish by choosing to join the Jewish faith. Then you will need to be instructed by a rabbi and perhaps be bar mitzvah (or bas mitzvah).
Perhaps you mean to say that you cannot be a biological Jew and not be descended from one of the twelve sone of Jacob. Personally, I am descended from one of the twelve tribes -- a Jew -- and am also a Christian.
Ronald Nolette
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No you become part of the Jewish faith! You are known biblically as a proselyte. You do not become an Israelite, that is reserved for the physical sons of the twelve sons of Jacob. though Jews tend to be both, there is a big difference between part of the Jewish faith, and being a Jew.
Ronald Nolette
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how can that be? I thought brothers meant there must be the same mother as they accuse Mary of the same
Michael S. Blanchard
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I was reading Deuteronomy Chapter 29 verse 1. It explains another Covenant that God makes in addition to the Mt. Horeb Covenant. If you read the chapter. Paying close attention to V9 thru 18 Man women, family or tribe. All of the Israelites were not Jews. Josephs's sons were born of an Egyptian mother. Genesis 41 v50 Now turn to Genesis 49, when Jacob gathers his sons together, and tells them what will befall them in "The Last Days". V 10 "The Scepter" is the bloodline of David and Jesus. Pure bloodline. V 22 Joseph "is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well, whose branches run over the wall. Ephraim and Manassah " Back in chapter 48 One shall become a great people and the other a multitude of Nations. There isn't that many Jewish people. We are talking multitude of whole nations.
Jim B
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That is like saying that you become part of the Christian faith, but that being in Christ is reserved for some Christians but not others. In other words, you are 100% wrong.
Amen, Precious friend. Many of those distinctions are here:
"Distinctions" of (earthly) Prophecy Vs (Heavenly) MYSTERY!
So, now with the helping consensus of @farouk (IF you wish...),
maybe we can collaborate on this New addition?:
Prophecy/Law { earthly! }:
20) bride/wife of The LAMB:
Rev_21:9 "And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had
the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying,
Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the LAMB's wife."
Rev_21:10 "And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high
mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem,
descending out of heaven from God,"
How is This Descending Great City associated with earthly Israel?
Well, if we keep going:
Rev 21:11 "Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone
most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;"
Rev 21:12 "And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the
gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of
the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:"
Rev 21:13 "On the east three gates; on the north three gates;
on the south three gates; and on the west three gates."
Rev 21:14 "And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in
them the names of the twelve apostles of the LAMB."
Earthly Israel, Correct?
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
Mystery/GRACE { Heavenly! }!:
(20)
vs
(Found) God's "ONE New man" (Ephesians 2:15), Correct? Association with?:
ONE (God-Chosen) GRACE apostle, Paul (NOT "of the TWELVE" to Israel
shown above) To the Gentiles! (Romans 11:13, 15:16-19; Acts 9:15, 22:21, 26:17-18;
Galatians 1:16, 2:2, 2:7-9; 1 Timothy 2:7; 2 Timothy 1:11-12)
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"Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is This GRACE Given, that
I should preach among the Gentiles The Unsearchable Riches Of CHRIST;
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of The Mystery, which from
the beginning of the world hath Been Hid In God, Who Created all things
By JESUS CHRIST:" (Ephesians_3:8-9)
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Seven UNITIES "of The Spirit":
Eph 4:3 "Endeavouring to keep the Unity of The Spirit in the bond of Peace."
Eph 4:4 "There is ONE body, and ONE Spirit, even as ye are called in
ONE hope of your calling;"
Eph 4:5 "ONE LORD, ONE faith, ONE Baptism,"
Eph 4:6 "ONE God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all,
and in you all."
ONE Heavenly Body (Of CHRIST = Bridegroom?)! Amen?
May The LORD Very Richly Enrich, Encourage, And Edify all,
By HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!
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Precious @farouk, IF you wish, please "fill in ANY missing blanks" that I
may have missed?... thanks!
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God the father divorced Israel, ending the old covenant, and Jesus remarried the house of Israel and Judah with the second covenant, and all non Jews who believe in Jesus are grafted in.
When you become a Christian - that you are "in Christ", in Christ is neither male nor female, Jew nor Greek. A Jew who receives Jesus is no longer counted of Israel, now being In Christ. The Gentile/Jew distinction is erased in Christ. According to the flesh we are still male and female, Jew and Gentile, but according to the spirit - we are the spirit children of God - these distinctions are gone.
Much love!
Ronald Nolette
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Wrong- Brothers can have the same mother but different fathers, or the same father and different mothers! YOu are trying to make an argument that is just not an argument in reality.
Ronald Nolette
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No that is not like saying what you post.
But we are talking about the Jewish faith (Judaism) and Jewish heritage (Israelite) AFAIK there is not one instance where a convert to Judaism was ever called a jew or Israelite. They were called proselytes! and as far as the temple went, they could not enter the court of teh Jews, that was reserved for ethnic Jews and not proselytes to Judaism.
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