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I suppose we all have our own standards!
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How can you KNOW that you are saved and part of the elect?
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I suppose we all have our own standards!
Much love!
Oh, look at the response.
I've called you on something, now you have to compensate. This will not end well, so I'll end here.
Much love!
atpollard
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[Romans 10:9-13 NIV]
It always seemed pretty clear to me … Did you declare? Do you believe? Does it say “are justified” and “are saved”? Then what’s the problem … God said it, we did it, that settled it.
[Ephesians 2:1-10 tells us that God even did all the heavy lifting so we could do it.]
9 If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, "Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame." 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile--the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
It always seemed pretty clear to me … Did you declare? Do you believe? Does it say “are justified” and “are saved”? Then what’s the problem … God said it, we did it, that settled it.
[Ephesians 2:1-10 tells us that God even did all the heavy lifting so we could do it.]
Right Mark, if it would satisfy you, I will name the author of the resource, since it would seem you think I have double standards, my my, it is not about us, nor our intellectual prowess, our boast is in Christ only.
You know what, I have always made the assumption people are familiar with the written word, 4 years ago I stopped making assumptions.
atpollard
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Yup, just not because of merit.
(That’s what I love about Genesis … they had families just as messed up as mine - growing up - so there is hope for ANYONE.)
Ever read Matthew 25?Yup, just not because of merit.
(That’s what I love about Genesis … they had families just as messed up as mine - growing up - so there is hope for ANYONE.)
atpollard
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“then said he to his slaves the marriage-feast indeed is ready and those called were not worthy”
atpollard
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NO! Matthew has 25 chapters?
(I assume the question was rhetorical, pretend I am an idiot and just state the point.)
I have stopped making assumptions.NO! Matthew has 25 chapters?
(I assume the question was rhetorical, pretend I am an idiot and just state the point.)
Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
The Parable of the Talents
Mat 25:14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
Mat 25:15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey.
Mat 25:16 Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents.
Mat 25:17 And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two.
Mat 25:18 But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money.
Mat 25:19 After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them.
Mat 25:20 And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more.
Mat 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Mat 25:22 He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them.
Mat 25:23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Mat 25:24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
Mat 25:25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
Mat 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
Mat 25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
Mat 25:28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
Mat 25:29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The Final Judgment
Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Mat 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
Mat 25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
Mat 25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
Mat 25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
Mat 25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
Mat 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Mat 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Mat 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
..for those who need a little reminder since our eternal destination is at stake here
NO! Matthew has 25 chapters?
(I assume the question was rhetorical, pretend I am an idiot and just state the point.)
That would be simple and effective, eh?
Much love!
atpollard
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I read it again just for you and NOAH (the person we were discussing) was not mentioned even once.
The technical term for what you are posting is … a non sequitur.
Why are you wasting my time?
Have you read Romans 9? (It also has nothing to do with Noah, but something to do with God choosing).
atpollard
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I’ll pass.
If the only way to communicate with you is to read the last 73 posts, then I’ll just bow out now.
CAIO.
Catch you on the way up …
quietthinker
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With respect Johann, rightness is not qualified by the volume of words made on a matter.....although it does attempt to do that.
quietthinker
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I need to tell you a story that I once heard and which I found pertinent.
A preacher had come to town for some revival meetings. He advertised far and near and set up his tent in eager anticipation of a crowd.
The appointed time came and the tent was still empty so with patience he waited....and waited. Eventually a lone cowboy turned up and took a seat in the front row. The preacher waited a while longer but that was it, nobody else showed up so he figured one was better than none and so he started his sermon. Ten minutes in, fifteen minutes in, half an hour in...the cowboy sat there listening....forty five minutes in and he (the preacher) was on a roll. Ninety minutes went by and he eventually wound up. Looking down at the cowboy the preacher asked, 'well cowboy, what did you think of that? The cowboy looks up a bit bewildered and replies, 'well, I'm not not really sure because I'm just a cowboy but what I do know is this, if I went out to feed my cows and only one turned up, I would feed it, I wouldn't dump the whole load on it!
A preacher had come to town for some revival meetings. He advertised far and near and set up his tent in eager anticipation of a crowd.
The appointed time came and the tent was still empty so with patience he waited....and waited. Eventually a lone cowboy turned up and took a seat in the front row. The preacher waited a while longer but that was it, nobody else showed up so he figured one was better than none and so he started his sermon. Ten minutes in, fifteen minutes in, half an hour in...the cowboy sat there listening....forty five minutes in and he (the preacher) was on a roll. Ninety minutes went by and he eventually wound up. Looking down at the cowboy the preacher asked, 'well cowboy, what did you think of that? The cowboy looks up a bit bewildered and replies, 'well, I'm not not really sure because I'm just a cowboy but what I do know is this, if I went out to feed my cows and only one turned up, I would feed it, I wouldn't dump the whole load on it!
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Yes. And God draws ALL MEN to Christ through the Gospel. No one is excluded, until they exclude themselves. If all would believe all would be saved. And since the Holy Spirit is given as a gift to all who repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, He is the one who is the "inner witness".
For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear thou God. (Eccl 5:7)With respect Johann, rightness is not qualified by the volume of words made on a matter.....although it does attempt to do that.
Ziggy
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De ja vu...
Sometimes multiple threads with the same theme overlapping..
Having the same kind of discusiion in another place.
So what of this then, what is Paul saying?
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
also:
Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
If God wills in you to do, then how can one exclude themselves from what God wills them to do?
Hugs
Sometimes multiple threads with the same theme overlapping..
Having the same kind of discusiion in another place.
So what of this then, what is Paul saying?
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
also:
Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
If God wills in you to do, then how can one exclude themselves from what God wills them to do?
Hugs
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