The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

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Davy

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"Earthly" flesh and blood can't inherit the kingdom

Jesus Christ maintained a tangible "Eternal" body of "Glorified" flesh and bone, 100% "Spiritual"

You've been brainwashed by men's leaven doctrines so long, you don't even realize when you directly contradict yourself in your own sentence.

The 1 Corinthians 15:49-50 Scripture by Apostle Paul has NOTHING to do with a flesh and bone body. Nor does the fact that Paul also showed Jesus' flesh was made "a quickening spirit", further showing that a flesh and bone body CANNOT enter into Heaven.

But there you are, TRYING to say a flesh and bone type body is an eternal heavenly body. That's just more SICKNESS revealed by those who don't actually know their New Testament Bible. Have you like Timothy been staying in Torah most of your life instead?
 

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You mean this one:

"And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:"

It does not say:

"And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that spirit that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:"

You are so... FUNNY! You strain at a gnat with silliness just to TRY and disprove the Scriptures!

Apostle Paul made that very plain and easy to understand. The body that is sown (flesh) is NOT THAT BODY THAT SHALL BE (1 Corinthians 15:37). What kind of body is it, THAT SHALL BE? The "spiritual body" he was talking about here...

1 Cor 15:44
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

KJV

And just to MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF BODY HE WAS POINTING TO FOR THE RESURRECTION, Paul said the following after that...

1 Cor 15:45-50
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.


46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.


47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.


48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.


49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.


50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

KJV
 

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The image of the heavenly is a permanent incorruptible physical body.

The image of the earthly is a dead corruptible physical body.

2 Corinthians 5:1

"For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens."

And that "building of God" that is "eternal in the heavens" is the "spiritual body" which Apostle Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15:44-50, a NOT A FLESH AND BONE BODY.
 

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I agree that Jesus as Lord is spirit. Jesus as Christ and Prince, is physical. Surely a Spirit did not die on the Cross, Yet God was on the Cross that day as much as Jesus and the Holy Spirit. The Word was with God and the Word was God. Do you deny God was the Word and with the Word? I think some see it as a one way relationship. Not sure why?

No, you CANNOT INSERT that word "physical" just because YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE "spiritual body" not being a body of flesh and bones.


THIS IS FOR BRETHREN THAT DO RECOGNIZE 1 CORINTHIANS 15 BY PAUL:
In John 4:24, Apostle John said God is a Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit, and in truth. So HOW do we, upon this earth, worship Him "in spirit"?

John 4:23-24
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship Him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.

KJV

IF... we living upon this earth, have a flesh and bone body and nothing else, then HOW can our 'flesh', which is not spirit, worship God like Apostle John said above?

Obviously, for those who study their Bible, God created us with more than just a flesh body for this present world. We also have a spirit with soul that dwells within our flesh body. And according to Apostle Paul in 2 Corinthians 5, if our flesh body were destroyed, dissolved, we STILL have yet another body that is eternal in the heavens. So we HAVE TWO BODIES, EVEN RIGHT NOW, UPON THIS EARTH?

YES! This is what Apostle Paul was revealing. In 1 Corinthians 15:44 when Paul said, "There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body", he was not pointing to our flesh body being changed to a spiritual body. He was pointing to how our "spiritual body" already exists, inside our flesh body, which is exactly what he was showing in the 2 Corinthians 5 Chapter! How's this work?

When we PRAY to The Father through The Son as one of His, He hears us through our 'spirit', because He is "a Spirit" like John said. It is NOT our flesh body praying, it is our spirit with soul praying to Him, even in that 'other' dimension, the heavenly dimension. Likewise, when God's prophets and Apostles were shown 'visions', they saw into the Heavenly by their 'spirit' that is inside their flesh body, not by their flesh eyes. This is also why some folks on their death bed spoke of seeing a dead loved one appear amongst them, and they spoke to the deceased. It's because that other dimension was getting ready to be opened up to them. Pastors that were with the dying can affirm that kind of experience, so I'm not making this up.

Like Lord Jesus said in John 3:6, that which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of The Spirit is spirit. Those are two separate things in God's creation. And we already... have a 'spirit' living inside our flesh which once our flesh is cast off at death, or at the change at the "last trump", that "spiritual body" image immediately is revealed in the heavenly dimension.

What about the heavenly dimension then? How does it fit into God's Plan about His earthly creation? In Isaiah 45:18, God said He created this earth to be inhabited, to be lived upon. In the latter Isaiah Chapters about the new heavens and a new earth, He showed that His servants will build houses, and plant vineyards. In what kind of body? In our "spiritual body", the body of the heavenly order. How's that, dealing with the earth then?

God's Word about the appearance of angels upon this earth says nothing about their having to put on flesh in order to appear on earth to flesh men. That false idea that flesh is needed, is from men's leaven traditions that cannot understand the two separate dimensions that God created.

Flesh and blood is of this PRESENT WORLD, not the world to come. That is why so many fail to understand about that future world to come, because they are still thinking with their flesh, having been brainwashed away from The Bible Scripture that shows differently.
 

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I've debunked Amillennialism on every major point and many smaller ones.
You have attempted to debunk Amillennialism and have failed miserably every time. You are the one who tries to use Matthew 25:31-46 to support your false Premil belief even though that passage very clearly shows both the saved and unsaved being gathered for judgment at the same time, which is when Christ returns. What do you do can't be described as debunking Amil. It's more like blindly throwing darts and hoping one sticks.

It's just as badly created as pre-trib and just as easy to prove to be fictional and not from the bible. I have 50 of them so far and it is time for the next one.
If it's so easy to prove to be fictional, then why have you failed so spectacularly at doing so? Each of your supposed refutations of Amil are easily refuted.
 

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What are the elements/rudiments [stoicheîon] in Galatians 4:3 & 9; Colossians 2:8 & 20; Hebrews 5:12 and 2 Peter 3:10 & 12? Are the elements that will "melt with fervent heat" suddenly referring to the chemical elements in the earth in 2 Peter 3:10 & 12 because you want it to be that way so you can turn the Bible's normal use of metaphor and hyperbole in Apocalyptic literature into something literal?

4747 στοιχεῖον stoicheîon, stoy-khi'-on
something orderly in arrangement, i.e. (by implication) a serial (basal, fundamental, initial) constituent (literally), proposition (figuratively):--element, principle, rudiment.
What is the earth that is referenced in 2 Peter 3:10 that Peter said will be burned up? Is it something besides the planet earth?
 
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There's a kitchen utensil for just about anything today. You'd think that by now someone would have invented an Amil shaker. We could just put you Amil guys into it and shake all the eisegesis out of you.
LOL at you, of all people, accusing someone else of eisegesis. That's a good one.

Revelation 1:5-6 is talking TO the saints in the seven Asian churches and what Jesus said to them, He says to all.

"John to the seven churches which are in Asia...even from Jesus Christ the faithful Witness, the First-born from the dead and the Ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and made us kings and priests to God and His Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen."

But Revelation 20:4-6 is speaking about a very specific group who were beheaded during a very brief period at the close of the Age for their testimony to Christ and refusal to worship the beast or his image or receive his mark or the number of his name. That doesn't even include you and me if we die a natural death or get driven over by a Russian tank. It doesn't even say anything about any other saints except the group that the text mentions.
It's only your assumption that it's talking about those who die during a brief period before the end of the age. Your hyper-literalist approach to a very symbolic book leads you to that conclusion.

But, what can be said about those martyrs before they died? According to Revelation 1:5-6, Jesus IS "the ruler of the kings of the earth" and His people ARE "a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father". Does that change when believers physically die? No. So, that has to be taken into account when interpreting Revelation 20:4-6. But, you don't want to take that into account because you have extreme Premil bias. You want to believe in Premil, so you do. You are not objective. You were being objective for awhile and you were much more pleasant to deal with during that time as well. Now, you're back to being a nasty Premil again.
 

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24. One resurrection of the dead or two?

Some Amillennialists believe the resurrection of the unrighteous immediately follow the resurrection of the righteous at a general resurrection but sometimes admits there could be a second or more inbetween the two resurrections. That promotes two different resurrections separated by a short time period, yet Amillennialism usually denies there are two resurrections. Even a second between resurrections automatically proves there are two. Revelation 20 says there is over a thousand years between the two resurrections which really ends any valid debate on the subject.

Another variant of Amillennialism believes that Revelation 20 does not show two resurrections despite the text declaring "the rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years were finished" proving a group of the dead did live again (a resurrection), and that a second group of the dead would live again (a resurrection) at a later time.

Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Two resurrections:

1. Those that have done good. Revelation 20:4
2. Those that have done evil. Revelation 20:11-13
If you want to look at it as two resurrections (one of believers and one of unbelievers), I don't care. That's really besides the point that Amils make about John 5:28-29. If it's meant to be seen as two resurrections then it's two resurrections that occur at around the same time. Jesus said the HOUR (singular) is coming when all the dead will be raised, not that two hours are coming when all the dead will be raised.

But, go ahead and ignore the fact that Jesus indicated that all of the dead will be raised within one future hour or time that is coming if you're not interested in knowing the truth. The idea of believers being raised and then unbelievers being raised a long time afterwards is not indicated in John 5:28-29 whatsoever.
 
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23. Does Jesus descend from heaven to open the pit before the tribulation/6th trump or after it has ended?

This is another contradiction related to number 22.
What does this even mean? What are you attempting to say here? How exactly does this question relate to a supposed error or contradiction in Amil? You're clearly just making up a bunch of nonsensical points, including #23 here, and then claiming they are supposed contradictions in Amil. You think people can't see through this nonsense?
 
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Whats easy to understand about what you (once again falsely) assert is that the New Testament NEVER uses the word for anyone who has died in the flesh or is not alive.
It does in Revelation 20:4. It doesn't matter if it does anywhere else. It was a colossal waste of time for you to list all the verses where it isn't used that way. You'll never get that wasted time back.

The only way you could prove that it can't be used to refer to those who are physically dead but are spiritually alive in heaven is if you proved that soul sleep was true. And you know soul sleep isn't true. So, you have proved nothing here.

Your time would be better spent explaining why the word "zao" is used in verse 4 in reference to the souls of the dead who John saw while the word "anazao" is used to refer to the rest of the dead living again after the thousand years. So, what is your explanation for that? The word "anazao" is used in other scripture in relation to people being bodily resurrected, but the word "zao" is never used in that way in other scripture. If verse 4 was intending to refer to the bodily resurrection of the dead martyrs that John saw then why was the word "zao" used in reference to them instead of "anazao"?
 

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That's just your opinions, i.e the opinions of men. You've shown by the way you interpret the above statements in the Bible that you misinterpret them. My understanding is the way the Church has always understood it, regardless of denomination.

YOUR understanding is according to men's false leaven traditions, and NOT what is actually written in God's Word.

I could care less about those FALSE traditions of men you follow. I choose to stay with God's Word as written, and let the chips fall where they may.

Apostle Paul was VERY CLEAR per 1 Corinthians 15:42-50 and 2 Corinthians 5:1-5 that we have ANOTHER BODY FROM GOD, NOT MADE WITH HANDS, BUT ETERNAL IN THE HEAVENS. But YOU DENY that Bible Scripture in favor of following MAN's WORD.

And you TRY to say I'm following "opinions of men"? And falsely infer that I... don't know how to interpret Bible Scripture???

You are just a FAKE, and that's all there is to it! I feel sorry for anyone who listens to you and your false leaven traditions from men.
 

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YOUR understanding is according to men's false leaven traditions, and NOT what is actually written in God's Word.

I could care less about those FALSE traditions of men you follow. I choose to stay with God's Word as written, and let the chips fall where they may.
What does that even mean, to "stay with God's Word as written"? Such a meaningless thing to say. That usually means someone is interpreting everything in a wooden, literal fashion without using any spiritual discernment and without any regard for context or the style of writing (literal, symbolic, metaphorical, poetic, apocalyptic, etc.).

Apostle Paul was VERY CLEAR per 1 Corinthians 15:42-50 and 2 Corinthians 5:1-5 that we have ANOTHER BODY FROM GOD, NOT MADE WITH HANDS, BUT ETERNAL IN THE HEAVENS. But YOU DENY that Bible Scripture in favor of following MAN's WORD.

And you TRY to say I'm following "opinions of men"? And falsely infer that I... don't know how to interpret Bible Scripture???

You are just a FAKE, and that's all there is to it! I feel sorry for anyone who listens to you and your false leaven traditions from men.
Actually, it's quite clear to me that Paul said that the corruptible, dishonorable, weak, natural body that the dead in Christ had when they died will be raised and changed to be an incorruptible, glorious, powerful and spiritual body.

1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

When Paul later said in verses 51-52 that we will all be changed at the last trumpet, he was talking about the mortal, corruptible, dishonorable, weak, natural bodies that we have now being changed to be immortal, incorruptible, glorious, powerful and spiritual bodies. A spiritual body is incorruptible, glorious and powerful, but a natural body is not, so that's why our natural bodies need to be changed into spiritual bodies.

In 1 Cor 15:42-44 Paul was clearly contrasting the type of body we have now with the type of body we'll have at the last trumpet and not at all saying we will eventually have two bodies as you are claiming, which is complete nonsense.
 
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Could it be, that you have not thought about the simple fact that Jesus, in the immortality of His New form of Life, can be either spirit or flesh and bone at will?
John.20[19] Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

That's actually just another pretentious fallacy reasoning that LEAVES Bible Scripture as written.

You can follow the teachings of the false Jews whose whole life now, and for the world to come, they think, depends upon flesh.

When Apostle Paul revealed in 1 Corinthians 15:44-50 that Jesus was made "a quickening spirit", he wasn't joking around, nor pointing to a flesh body. The Greek for "spirit" in verse 45 is pneuma, meaning 'spirit' (NT:4151). Impossible for that to point to a flesh body!

And that is HOW Lord Jesus, when He appeared to His disciples after His death and resurrection for 40 days, was able to appear in the midst of them without going through the door or window. That was written for our.... admonition, so we would UNDERSTAND about that other dimension body, and FUTURE EXISTENCE of the world to come...

John 20:19
19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, "Peace be unto you."

KJV

A flesh body cannot... do that, enter into a room without going through a door.

The spiritual body has substance, just not of flesh and blood. It looks like a flesh body, feels like one, can eat fleshy food, but it is a body type of that OTHER dimension of Spirit. It is a body type that doesn't get sick, doesn't feel hot or cold, does not die (unless God throws it into the future "lake of fire"). Nor does it have many of the limitations that our flesh body of today has.

And even our flesh body can eat heavenly 'manna', which is the angel's food. So there are close similarities. The spiritual body can walk and live upon this earth. The proof is in Genesis 18 & 19 with the three men that appeared to Abraham whom Abraham prepared food and drink for, and with the two angels that were sent to Lot and his family, which also ate food prepared for them by Lot.

Even in Hebrews 13:2 we are reminded to be hospitable to strangers, become some have entertained angels and weren't aware they were angels.
 

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It does in Revelation 20:4. It doesn't matter if it does anywhere else. It was a colossal waste of time for you to list all the verses where it isn't used that way. You'll never get that wasted time back.

The only way you could prove that it can't be used to refer to those who are physically dead but are spiritually alive in heaven is if you proved that soul sleep was true. And you know soul sleep isn't true. So, you have proved nothing here.

Your time would be better spent explaining why the word "zao" is used in verse 4 in reference to the souls of the dead who John saw while the word "anazao" is used to refer to the rest of the dead living again after the thousand years. So, what is your explanation for that? The word "anazao" is used in other scripture in relation to people being bodily resurrected, but the word "zao" is never used in that way in other scripture. If verse 4 was intending to refer to the bodily resurrection of the dead martyrs that John saw then why was the word "zao" used in reference to them instead of "anazao"?
"But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. The second death has no authority over these, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him a thousand years." (Revelation 20:5).

The crossed out sentence is considered spurious by textual scholars and Bible translators. Most believe it's a later addition and shouldn't be there at all.

So argue away using a spurious sentence as the basis for you argument.

It's really telling that you accept that every other time zao appears in the New Testament it's talking about people who are alive in their bodies, but not when it comes to Revelation 20:4.

It's also telling that you argued with @ewq1938 for a length of time, falsely claiming what has now been proved to you was not the case.

I don't mind if you regard the effort I go to to check up if the arguments of Amillennialists have any validity as a waste of time, but for me it was not a waste of time, and never is.

1. Wihout exception the word anastasis (resurrection) appearing in verses 5 & 6 is only used in reference to the bodily rising again from the dead (You will no doubt claim that Revelation 20:5-6 is the only exception in the entire New Testament in this regard also).

2. Without exception the word zao in verse 4 is only used in reference to living people who are alive in their bodies (You have claimed that Revelation 20:4 is the only exception).

3. People being killed for refusing to worship the beast or his image or receive his mark or the number of his name is only mentioned twice in the New Testament: Revelation 13 and Revelation 20.

4. Beheading of saints is only mentioned twice in the New Testament, and each time the same saint/s seen living after their beheading is associated with their bodily resurrection (anasstasis). Revelation 20 even calls it the first anastasis (which refers only to a bodily Resurrection wherever the word appears in the New Testament), and we know that because Christ IS the resurrection and the life, it's through His own bodily resurrection that any later bodily resurrection takes place.

5. At the same time and for the same period, Satan is said to be bound, put in the abyss and a seal set on him so that he is unable to deceive the nations, yet you regard the fact as of naught value that in scripture in-between Christ's ascension and return, Satan is called the god of this aion (Age) and prince of the power of the air who works in the sons of disobedience, who will give the beast and false prophet his seat, power and great authority; and the saints are warned that they should be weary of his wiles and are told to resist him, and to put on the full armour of God because we do not wrestle against flesh and blood (2 Corinthians 4:3-4; Ephesians 2:2; 1 Peter 5:8-9; Ephesians 6:11-12; Revelation 2:9-10 & Revelation 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 2:18; James 4:7).

6. In the Greek New Testament, one thousand, two thousand, three thousand, four thousand, five thousand, seven thousand .. goes like this:

chílioi, dischílioi, trischílioi, tetrakischílioi, pentakischílioi (or pénte chiliás), heptakischílioi ..

144,000 hekatón tessarákonta téssares chiliás (one hundred) (forty) (four) (thousands).
20,000 eíkosi chiliás (20 x 1,000), example Luke 14:31.
12,000 dṓdeka chiliás (12 x 1,000), example Revelation 7:5.
10,000 déka chiliás (10 x 1,000), example Luke 14:31.
7,000: ἑπτακισχίλιοι heptakischílioi, example Romans 11:4.
5,000: πεντακισχίλιοι pentakischílioi, example Matthew 14:21,
OR pénte chiliás (5 x 1,000), example Acts 4:4.

4,000: τετρακισχίλιοι tetrakischílioi, example Matthew 15:38.
3,000: τρισχίλιοι trischílioi, example Acts 2:41.
2,000: δισχίλιοι dischílioi, example Mark 5:13.
1,000 χίλιοι chílioi, and it means exactly one thousand in Revelation 12:6 and Revelation 14:20.

Yet you continue to hold onto an impossible theory about a symbolic millennium despite a cloud of Biblical witnesses that prove the opposite, ignoring any and all the evidence against your belief and considering it of naught value.

I haven't wasted my time, and I will never be sorry that I go and check up to see if any of your claims have any validity, because it always exposes the falsehood of your position, each and every time.

So whether or not you choose to hold onto a wonky, flawed eschatologicial position and any wonky, flawed theology it produces, I don't regard as my problem. I doesn't keep me out of my sleep. It just makes me ensure I find out what the Bible is saying so that I know when someone doesn't know what he's talking about because he buries his head in the sand of his flawed eschatology every time biblical facts expose it for the flawed position it is.

Neither does it make me judge you or think I'm in any way, shape or form any better than you. I see these things objectively.

I know it's a historical novel type of show that's full of added scenes not in the Bible (just like Amillennialism I guess), but I really love The Chosen series. To me it's one of the best Christian gospel movies or series ever produced. What stands out in the show the most in my mind after the words "Come and see" are Simon's words to Jesus when after the apostles had been arguing angrily with one another, Simon told Jesus they were unified behind Him.

"Unified"? Jesus asked.

After hesitating a second, Simon answered, "Yeah well, we all agree on You."

That's Christians for you, especially when it comes to biblical prophecy and eschatology.

I didn't waste my time. I never do when I study the Word as received from the apostles of Jesus to see if your claims regarding the millennium carry any validity.
 

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YOUR understanding is according to men's false leaven traditions, and NOT what is actually written in God's Word.

I could care less about those FALSE traditions of men you follow. I choose to stay with God's Word as written, and let the chips fall where they may.

Apostle Paul was VERY CLEAR per 1 Corinthians 15:42-50 and 2 Corinthians 5:1-5 that we have ANOTHER BODY FROM GOD, NOT MADE WITH HANDS, BUT ETERNAL IN THE HEAVENS. But YOU DENY that Bible Scripture in favor of following MAN's WORD.

And you TRY to say I'm following "opinions of men"? And falsely infer that I... don't know how to interpret Bible Scripture???

You are just a FAKE, and that's all there is to it! I feel sorry for anyone who listens to you and your false leaven traditions from men.
The traditions of men in Christendom in many respects is the teaching of Christ and His apostles, as in this case.
 

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The traditions of men in Christendom in many respects is the teaching of Christ and His apostles, as in this case.

Not FALSE traditions, which are the 'leaven' fragments that Jesus warned against.

Just the fact that YOU don't know the difference between proper tradition in God's Word and men's false leaven traditions, shows that you failed to understand what Jesus showed below...

Mark 8:15-21
15 And He charged them, saying, "Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod."
16 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, "It is because we have no bread."
17 And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, "Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened?

18 Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?

19 When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up?" They say unto him, "Twelve."


20 "And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up?" And they said, "Seven."


21 And He said unto them, "How is it that ye do not understand?"

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What is the earth that is referenced in 2 Peter 3:10 that Peter said will be burned up? Is it something besides the planet earth?
It's always noticeable the way you ignore and side-step issues that present you with a problem to your established position. But side-stepping the issue with a question doesn't qualify you for an answer to your question.

What does the word stoicheîon mean in every other New Testament verse where it is used?

I guess I shouldn't even ask you the question. If you can claim that Revelation 20:4 is the only exception in the entire New Testament to the word zao and Revelation 20:5-6 the only exception in the entire New Testament to the word anastasis, then you will claim that 2 Peter 3:10 & 12's use of the word stoicheîon is an exception.

Forget the question, and I'll forget yours also.
 

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"But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. The second death has no authority over these, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him a thousand years." (Revelation 20:5).

The crossed out sentence is considered spurious by textual scholars and Bible translators. Most believe it's a later addition and shouldn't be there at all.

So argue away using a spurious sentence as the basis for you argument.
Where are you getting that from? I just looked at about twenty different English Bible translations and the verse is there in all of them. Why would all of those Bible translators include it if most of them (supposedly) thought it shouldn't be there? I think you're making that up just because you couldn't come up with any other way to try to refute my point. If so, then this is the most desperate attempt to keep one's doctrine afloat that I've ever seen.

It's really telling that you accept that every other time zao appears in the New Testament it's talking about people who are alive in their bodies, but not when it comes to Revelation 20:4.
It's really telling that you don't seem to think that it's even possible that the word can be used to refer to those who are not physically alive but are spiritually alive in heaven. Are you sure you don't believe in soul sleep? You sometimes come across as if you do.

It's also telling that you argued with @ewq1938 for a length of time, falsely claiming what has now been proved to you was not the case.
What are you talking about?

I don't mind if you regard the effort I go to to check up if the arguments of Amillennialists have any validity as a waste of time, but for me it was not a waste of time, and never is.

1. Wihout exception the word anastasis (resurrection) appearing in verses 5 & 6 is only used in reference to the bodily rising again from the dead (You will no doubt claim that Revelation 20:5-6 is the only exception in the entire New Testament in this regard also).
How many times have I told you I agree with this? Several. I have told you several times that I believe the first resurrection is referring to Christ's bodily resurrection specifically (as taught in Acts 26:23, 1 Cor 15:20;22, Col 1:18, Rev 1:5) and then it talks about those who spiritually have part in His resurrection. But, here you are making this argument to me again. What is wrong with you? Seriously. Why should I bother telling you anything if you're not going to remember anything I say?
 

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Where are you getting that from? I just looked at about twenty different English Bible translations and the verse is there in all of them. Why would all of those Bible translators include it if most of them (supposedly) thought it shouldn't be there? I think you're making that up just because you couldn't come up with any other way to try to refute my point. If so, then this is the most desperate attempt to keep one's doctrine afloat that I've ever seen.

It's really telling that you don't seem to think that it's even possible that the word can be used to refer to those who are not physically alive but are spiritually alive in heaven. Are you sure you don't believe in soul sleep? You sometimes come across as if you do.

What are you talking about?

How many times have I told you I agree with this? Several. I have told you several times that I believe the first resurrection is referring to Christ's bodily resurrection specifically (as taught in Acts 26:23, 1 Cor 15:20;22, Col 1:18, Rev 1:5) and then it talks about those who spiritually have part in His resurrection. But, here you are making this argument to me again. What is wrong with you? Seriously. Why should I bother telling you anything if you're not going to remember anything I say?
Except that it's the resurrection of the martyred witnesses who were beheaded that's being referred to. You're just always side-stepping the facts.