2 Tim 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
“the man of God”?
“the man of God”?
Who is the man of God?
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"And, behold, there came a man of God out of Judah by the word of the LORD unto Bethel: and Jeroboam stood by the altar to burn incense." I Kings 13:1
"And he cried unto the man of God that came from Judah, saying, Thus saith the LORD, Forasmuch as thou hast disobeyed the mouth of the LORD, and hast not kept the commandment which the LORD thy God commanded thee,
But camest back, and hast eaten bread and drunk water in the place, of the which the LORD did say to thee, Eat no bread, and drink no water; thy carcase shall not come unto the sepulchre of thy fathers." I Kings 13:21-22
"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:" Acts 10:34
Robert Gwin
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female Christians can be a “man” of God???
it refers to an apostle with the triple office!
Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18 matt 28:19 Isa 22:21-22
Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.
Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.
Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments
Robert Gwin
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You asked a question and I answered sir,
You asked a question and I answered sir, yes there are female Christians, and in fact they make up a large army for Jehovah. At the outpouring of the holy spirit in Acts Chap 2 there were females there, and many females over history have become born again as well. I think you will find that God's people today are quite capable to fulfill the assignment, yes we are fully equipped and competent for every good work that Christians need to fulfill the assignment.
Brakelite
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quietthinker
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scripture pal
Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18 matt 28:19 Isa 22:21-22
Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.
Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.
Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments
Spiritual Fathers have care for our souls!
Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Jn 21:17 feed my sheep:
Heb 13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
That makes Paul and John spiritual fathers, pastors of our souls!
Obedience of the faithful Christians or spiritual anarchy of the heretical fundamentalists!
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Spiritual Fathers (apostles) have care for our souls!
Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Jn 21:17 feed my sheep:
Heb 13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
That makes Paul and John spiritual fathers, pastors of our souls!
Brakelite
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In as much as their writings testify to Christ for those who read them today and were a witness to those living at that time, yes, they called for the souls of those God gave them responsibility for. But they themselves are dead. Waiting the resurrection and at that time be reunited with their Savior.
But to categorically claim a specific church with a more than dubious history has the same care and authority over the Christian world today is just so much total nonsense. Apostolic succession may have been a thing for those who remained faithful to their calling, but the church of Rome, the moment she went to bed with the Caesars and the rulers of this world, committed spiritual adultery and disqualified herself as a source of "care and authority". Prophecy tells us where Rome's authority and power came from.
KJV Revelation 13:2
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Brakelite
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Anyone believing catholicism has been a consistent advocate and example of godly love and compassion, always with the best interests of others in mind, and a passion for the gospel and maintaining an apostolic like church, has limited, seriously limited, perception of reality and knowledge of history. By the 11th century, with the crusades against Jews and Muslims about to hit a resounding crescendo, and plans under way for a similar war to be waged against the Christians of southern Europe, and elsewhere, the Catholic Church as an institution had completely shed any resemblance to apostolic Christianity, and had developed a closer resemblance to an institutionalized Jabba the Hutt.
From a minority of non-politically involved believers in a hostile world suffering persecution and martyrdom prior to Constantine, to a politically motivated persecuting power hungry majority after Constantine. But just as the falling away took a long time to fully develop into what was truly experientially and aptly named the "Dark Ages", so it took a long time (500 years and counting) for the reformation to bring back truth and a closer image to primitive godliness and NT biblical and apostolic Christian faith and practise. Thank God and praise His name for the courage and vision for people like Luther, and Huss, and Tyndale, and countless others who, at the cost of their lives, declared enough!
From a minority of non-politically involved believers in a hostile world suffering persecution and martyrdom prior to Constantine, to a politically motivated persecuting power hungry majority after Constantine. But just as the falling away took a long time to fully develop into what was truly experientially and aptly named the "Dark Ages", so it took a long time (500 years and counting) for the reformation to bring back truth and a closer image to primitive godliness and NT biblical and apostolic Christian faith and practise. Thank God and praise His name for the courage and vision for people like Luther, and Huss, and Tyndale, and countless others who, at the cost of their lives, declared enough!
The one who walks in both righteousness and holiness. Grace is meant to empower a godly and holy walk.
We can contrast a man of God with a religious man...who relies on religious rites and ideology...but without any power to walk as Jesus walked. Religion is just dressed up carnality. We know the religious ones by their posturing and their claims to be more than they are.
Being under grace means to be clothed with Christ...in HIS holiness and perfection. That is the walk of a saint. We are to put on Christ and so put on His perfected walk.
nonsense
matt 28:19 teach all nations!
Acts 1:8 my witnesses to the ends of the earth!
how????????
apostolic succession is how!!!
heretics you mean!
Southern France Christians really they were Manichaean dualists sects full of errors!
Truth matters!
The church has a duty to defend the truth and condemn errors!
Heresy is treason against God and treason is punishable by death, but that’s the states duty!
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
Brakelite
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No. Not by apistokic succession but through faithfulness to their calling. We are all called to be teachers, apostles, prophets, missionaries, shepherds of God's people, depending on the gifts God has distributed to His saints. But that calling is not automatic, not is it exclusive to just one sect. The qualifications or criteria for having truth and being a witness to Christ are not what church we belong to, but whether we are abiding in the Vine. Then, the fruit of that connection comes through ministry. That privilege belongs to everyone. It certainly doesn't belong to an institution that sees for to murder those she disagree with. How can that possibly be righteous and true to godly faith and practise?
amigo de christo
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This was concerning the gentile cornelious who actually did worship GOD .
But i must remind us all of something . Lest we or any gets taken into the snare of the devil and follows this end time lie .
Let us all examine cornelious very well . First , HE was not an athiest who did good , nor was he a buddist who did good
nor was he a you name it pope francis claims it , HE actually worshipped the JEWISH GOD .
Number two . He did many good works , many good alms to the poor , prayed always to THE GOD of THE JEWS .
Now fore the real kick in the rear to the all inclusive lie .
With all that good , YET CORNELIOIUS NEEDED TO STILL HEAR SOMETHING and BELIEVE TO BE SAVED .
THE GOSPEL . GUESS that just kicked the lie right out of the park . YE MUST BELEIVE IN JESUS CHRIST TO BE SAVED
IS TOTAL TRUTH . EVEN cornelious HAD TO HEAR that GOSPEL and BELIEVE to BE SAVED .
SO let us NEVER forget that . Lest we fall after the same example of unbelief that many have and that end wont bode well
on the day of judgment .
So i want to repeat the one true gosple . TO BE SAVED , YE must BELIEVE IN HE WHOM GOD DID SEND . JESUS CHRIST .
Believing from the heart that GOD has rose HIM from the dead , confessing HIS NAME BY MOUTH .
Nothing else is gonna save them . EVEN cornelious would have told us this , HAD he still been here to do so .
BUT the beauty is its recorded in a book . And not just any book . THE GLORIOUS BIBLE .
NOW its true that the BIBLE is the number one best seller , but just as true is this , ITS OFTEN PUT ON MANY SHELVES TO COLLECT DUST .
I say we FEAST ON IT and learn it well . Be encouraged amadeus . BUt i have come to POINT TO JESUS and not man .
Brakelite
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Let everyone read this post above. Take careful note. Sadly, this is the heart and soul of catholicism. The core belief that
A. She has the authority and power to declare to the world that 'truth' can only be determined by her, and none else.
B. That anyone, in any state, must adhere to that 'truth'..
C. Not believing or behaving according to that 'truth' is punishable by death, to be carried out by the state government at the behest of the Catholic Church, which I'm effect makes the Catholic Church, at least in her own eyes and those who submit to her, the world's governing authority.
D. The only true governing authority over all mankind is Christ. What the Catholic Church has done through the above core dogma she holds, is to replace Christ, stand in His stead, rule in His place, promote their own head, the Pope, as the sole power on earth to determine salvational truth, and their own system as three only way to salvational, which is pure Antichrist, which the reformers sought to expose at the peril of their lives.
E. Upon knowing this, how can protestants today declare so numbly and carelessly that the reformation was a mistake, and that it's finished???
