sanctify Christ as Lord in your heart

[VictoryinJesus]

It was the topic Amadeus started that started me thinking about this
Now This Explains it

His post and also the verse of the day:
1 Peter 3:12-13 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil. [13] And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?

Also the Lexicon version: For the Eyes of the LORD are toward the righteous, and His ears attend to their prayer… which to me went hand in hand with what Amadeus shared. But instead of getting his tread side-tracked on the whole passage in 1 Peter which seems to also speak on “as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord”

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[VictoryinJesus]

“For the eyes of the LORD are toward the righteous, and His prayer,
But the face of the LORD is against those who do evil.”

Sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts

John 17:19-24 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. [20] Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; [21] That they all may be one; as You Father, are in me, and I in You, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that You have sent me. [22] And the glory which You gave me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: [23] I in them, and You in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that You have sent me, and have loved them, as You have loved me. [24] Father, I will that they also, whom You have given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which You have given me: for You loved me before the foundation of the world.

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[VictoryinJesus]

for the eyes of the LORD are toward the righteous, and His ears attend to their prayer,
But the face of the LORD is against those who do evil.
Who is there to harm you if you prove zealous for what is good? Romans 8:31
But even if you suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed.
And fear not their intimidation, and do not be troubled.
But sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always [being] ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; and keep a good conscience so in the thing in which you are slandered; those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame. 1 Peter 3:12

but for me it appears if you back up to 3:6 an OT teaching “as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord” leads into a NT teaching “sanctify Christ as Lord in your heart”

1 Peter 3:6 Just as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord, you have become her children if you do what is right without being frightened by any fear.
You husbands in the same way, live with [your wives] in an understanding way, as someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the Grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered.

Consider 1 Peter 3:12-13 speaks of Christ as the Lord in your heart attends to their prayer, but His face is against those who do evil. and also 1 Peter 3:6-7 speaks of “that your prayers be not hindered”

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[VictoryinJesus]

And fear not their intimidation, and do not be troubled.

A few things for consideration:
1) Fear not their intimidation And do not be trouble.

the kjv is slightly different
1 Peter 3:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye : and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;

1) Peter 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

2) how odd

But sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always [being] ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; and keep a good conscience so in the thing in which you are slandered; those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame. 1 Peter 3:12

Yet with gentleness and reverence; keep a good conscience so in the thing in which you are slandered; those who revile your good behavior “conversation” in Christ will be put to shame.

1 Peter 3:1-4 Likewise, you wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; [2] While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. [3] Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; [4] But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.


“But sanctify Christ as Lord in your heart”
“Which is in the sight of God of great price”

 

[Robert Gwin]

A few things for consideration:
1) Fear not their intimidation And do not be trouble.

the kjv is slightly different
1 Peter 3:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye : and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;

1) Peter 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

2) how odd

Yet with gentleness and reverence; keep a good conscience so in the thing in which you are slandered; those who revile your good behavior “conversation” in Christ will be put to shame.

1 Peter 3:1-4 Likewise, you wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; [2] While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. [3] Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; [4] But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.


“But sanctify Christ as Lord in your heart”
“Which is in the sight of God of great price”

The best and only way to sanctify Jesus as Lord in your heart is through obedience to him maam. Those who truly love him, obey him. (John 14:15) . . .“If you love me, you will observe my commandments.

 

[amadeus]

 

[amadeus]

Is Jesus truly the Lord of all the kingdoms within me? Within you?

Have we surrendered completely without reservation or are we quenching the Spirit when it suits our own desires or lifestyle or purpose?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Is Jesus truly the Lord of all the kingdoms within me? Within you?

I still struggle with so many questions regarding salvation. You asked “is Jesus truly the Lord of all the kingdoms within?” Two thoughts are: if He is in you, or Him in me. 1 John 4:4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

I was going to also quote The Father has given Him all kingdoms, and all rule. But I do see your point in Hebrews 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

 

[amadeus]

I still struggle with so many questions regarding salvation. You asked “is Jesus truly the Lord of all the kingdoms within?” Two thoughts are: if He is in you, or Him in me. 1 John 4:4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." John 16:33

Jesus overcame the world, the world of the temptations of the man Jesus! He was the first overcomer among men. Then he says:

"And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world..." John 17:11

He said this before the crucifixion! All the temptations were gone even though the ordeal of the cross was before him. He was still on planet Earth as a man, but he was no longer in the world of temptations.

Are we still tempted to sin? Have we overcome all of our temptations, or has Jesus and/or the Holy Spirit overcome them within us? Are any ordeals still remaining for each of us to go through during our remaining time? When, if ever, will we no longer be tempted to sin?
Who is within us battling against our enemies? Is He not greater than the enemy found in our world of temptations?

"From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?" James 4:1

"He must increase, but I must decrease." John 3:30

When and if our last battle has been won, then will we also no longer be in the world, like Jesus?

I was going to also quote The Father has given Him all kingdoms, and all rule. But I do see your point in Hebrews 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

Our own battles have to be fought and won. Alone we will lose our battles. Jesus lost none. The Holy Spirit in us loses none. We lose battles because we still quench the Holy Spirit within us. He would always be on our side and would win... but when we have not surrendered our reins to Him, we have limited the Holy One of Israel and some of our kingdoms remain unconquered and we sin again.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." John 16:33

Jesus overcame the world, the world of the temptations of the man Jesus! He was the first overcomer among men. Then he says:

"And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world..." John 17:11

He said this before the crucifixion! All the temptations were gone even though the ordeal of the cross was before him. He was still on planet Earth as a man, but he was no longer in the world of temptations.

Are we still tempted to sin? Have we overcome all of our temptations, or has Jesus and/or the Holy Spirit overcome them within us? Are any ordeals still remaining for each of us to go through during our remaining time? When, if ever, will we no longer be tempted to sin?
Who is within us battling against our enemies? Is He not greater than the enemy found in our world of temptations?

"From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?" James 4:1

"He must increase, but I must decrease." John 3:30

When and if our last battle has been won, then will we also no longer be in the world, like Jesus?



Our own battles have to be fought and won. Alone we will lose our battles. Jesus lost none. The Holy Spirit in us loses none. We lose battles because we still quench the Holy Spirit within us. He would always be on our side and would win... but when we have not surrendered our reins to Him, we have limited the Holy One of Israel and some of our kingdoms remain unconquered and we sin again.

thank you. For me I’d never paid any attention to “But sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts,”. It was in going through those passages that it stood out for the first time. It was “Christ as Lord” in your hearts that stuck. You ever have those moments? That was the reason for this thread “Christ as Lord” plainly which, again, for me I’d never noticed before.

 

[amadeus]

thank you. For me I’d never paid any attention to “But sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts,”. It was in going through those passages that it stood out for the first time. It was “Christ as Lord” in your hearts that stuck. You ever have those moments? That was the reason for this thread “Christ as Lord” plainly which, again, for me I’d never noticed before.

Yes, sister!

Many years ago, I had a pastor who made a comment about the quotes often seen on billboards: "Jesus is Lord". He said in effect the quote was not always true... that Jesus is not our Lord unless we want and allow him to be. This is our part of it. If we do not do our part, we have limited the Holy One of Israel. He then cannot be our Lord and we will never endure to the end with him.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Yes, sister!

Many years ago, I had a pastor who made a comment about the quotes often seen on billboards: "Jesus is Lord". He said in effect the quote was not always true... that Jesus is not our Lord unless we want and allow him to be. This is our part of it. If we do not do our part, we have limited the Holy One of Israel. He then cannot be our Lord and we will never endure to the end with him.

I’ve thought a lot about what you said. I’ve thought a lot about absolute truths. Is an AT something we are convinced is right and it would take something major to change our mind? Because as much as you are convinced one way, I’m just as much convinced the other way. Are those AT for us? Both of persuaded one way or the other?

For example what Paul said “I die daily” which makes me think of those beast brought into the sanctuary and burned “daily” and how those beast burned “daily” could not make anyone perfect. That is what is mentioned yes? Perfection; as in have any of us slayed and overcome all of our beasts?

For me there is two in “die daily” and “alive” unto God. I’m not so sure that which is Alive unto God is based off of the “daily” but “once” through the blood of Christ. Another example is “as dying” yet “behold we live”. To “die daily” ….yet “Alive” and “Awake”, the Alive and awake being always with God.

Point is, for me it sounds like a heavy burden that it is up to my working and not up to God working. An impossible heavy burden (not ever able to make one perfect) that I have to kill and overcome all my beast burned without the camp; otherwise God is prevented.

i don’t mean that to be disrespectful. I’m just so confused how wildly we all see things so differently. That is my biggest area of doubt. How Nobody sees it alike…maybe for a page or two but we all hear something different. Kind of like families around the table arguing politics. Sometimes it even makes me wonder if God is real or just a bunch of ideas and opinions.

 

[amadeus]

I’ve thought a lot about what you said. I’ve thought a lot about absolute truths. Is an AT something we are convinced is right and it would take something major to change our mind? Because as much as you are convinced one way, I’m just as much convinced the other way. Are those AT for us? Both of persuaded one way or the other?

For example what Paul said “I die daily” which makes me think of those beast brought into the sanctuary and burned “daily” and how those beast burned “daily” could not make anyone perfect. That is what is mentioned yes? Perfection; as in have any of us slayed and overcome all of our beasts?

For me there is two in “die daily” and “alive” unto God. I’m not so sure that which is Alive unto God is based off of the “daily” but “once” through the blood of Christ. Another example is “as dying” yet “behold we live”. To “die daily” ….yet “Alive” and “Awake”, the Alive and awake being always with God.

Point is, for me it sounds like a heavy burden that it is up to my working and not up to God working. An impossible heavy burden (not ever able to make one perfect) that I have to kill and overcome all my beast burned without the camp; otherwise God is prevented.

i don’t mean that to be disrespectful. I’m just so confused how wildly we all see things so differently. That is my biggest area of doubt. How Nobody sees it alike…maybe for a page or two but we all hear something different. Kind of like families around the table arguing politics. Sometimes it even makes me wonder if God is real or just a bunch of ideas and opinions.

ATs are just that... Absolute Truths! They are Correct and Absolute. God knows Absolute Truth. Who knows what God knows?

Some men may have some ATs, but how often do they name as ATs, things they only believe?

Are we not to live by faith in God and the things of God rather than by knowledge?

How many of the differences in doctrines, beliefs, and/or denominational essentials exist because people hold mixtures of error and truth without knowing which is which?

God knows the ATs. Who else does? Who is always to separate the tares or chaff from the wheat?

The Holy Spirit in us is able to sort it... but what do you suppose happens when we quench the Holy Spirit and take the lead ourselves in deciding what is an AT and what is not?