Saying you are without sin verses in 1 John

[1stCenturyLady]

Glad you are not my Judge.
You have broken the Imperatives by saying it like that.
J.

That is what he keeps saying of me. Just throwing his own words back at him. It is hypocritical. Maybe he will stop attacking me then. I also want to teach him the truth of Jesus taking away our sin. BTW you asked me about sinless perfection. Have you been taught that is a dirty word, even though by the end of our life that is where Jesus want us to be? Holy for I am holy. And Perfect, for my Father in Heaven is perfect.

 

[Johann]

But she keeps deflecting from the point, as she cannot address the issue

Circular reasoning, that's what going on here.
J.

 

[savedbygrace1]

I also want to teach him the truth of Jesus taking away our sin. .

I dont think you are qualified to teach

 

[Johann]

That is what he keeps saying of me. Just throwing his own words back at him. It is hypocritical. Maybe he will stop attacking me then. I also want to teach him the truth of Jesus taking away our sin. BTW you asked me about sinless perfection. Have you been taught that is a dirty word, even though by the end of our life that is where Jesus want us to be? Holy for I am holy. And Perfect, for my Father in Heaven is perfect.

You want to enter into dialogue with me?
I'll be glad to.
J.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

That's interesting, you suggest my father is the devil and claim I am not born again. I am happy to repeat, you do not perfectly obey the law within you. But then, you believe you can sin and believe you are doing nothing wrong don't you. I do not have that luxury

You don't know that I don't. You assume because you can't, everyone can't.

As I said, if we sin unintentionally from a lack of light of knowledge that we are not given fully at the beginning of our walk, we are not held accountable to God on them. Jesus is our Advocate for unintentional sins. I don't sin intentionally. You claim you do. I can't.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I dont think you are qualified to teach

It was Jesus who spoke to me in 2000 and said "I am giving you the office of teacher." He has since then equipped me. And by the way that was decades after my unintentional sins.

 

[Johann]

That is what he keeps saying of me. Just throwing his own words back at him. It is hypocritical. Maybe he will stop attacking me then. I also want to teach him the truth of Jesus taking away our sin. BTW you asked me about sinless perfection. Have you been taught that is a dirty word, even though by the end of our life that is where Jesus want us to be? Holy for I am holy. And Perfect, for my Father in Heaven is perfect.

Have you read the Babylonian Talmud?
Some bad words and statements from the Sages and rabbins, would you not agree? And it is the "Authorative" book in addition to the others.
J.

 

[amigo de christo]

Well the Spirit of truth does teach me. Therefore I know the law is in our most inward parts and through it we become conscious of sin. Therefore, how can a christian commit sin and believe it is ok to do what they are doing?

The answer to that is , THEY COULD NOT . The SPIRIT convicts . No christain comits sin and believes its okay to do so .
The Spirit indwells the believer . TRUTH IS , GOD changes us . A whole new heart is given and lambs love the truth .
For its planted upon our hearts by the Holy Ghost . On that note , I SAY , ITS LORD PRAISING and THANKING TIME .

 

[amigo de christo]

Now let all that draws breath praise the Glorious Lord .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Have you read the Babylonian Talmud?
Some bad words and statements from the Sages and rabbins, would you not agree? And it is the "Authorative" book in addition to the others.
J.

I'm sorry, I can't keep up with your posts while I'm concentrating on teaching this other man. Maybe tomorrow.

 

[Jim B]

yes, and I told you when that was likely to happen

I don't recall but I hope it is soon.

 

[Johann]

I'm sorry, I can't keep up with your posts while I'm concentrating on teaching this other man. Maybe tomorrow.

See you tomorrow.
J.

 

[savedbygrace1]

You don't know that I don't. You assume because you can't, everyone can't.

As I said, if we sin unintentionally from a lack of light of knowledge that we are not given fully at the beginning of our walk, we are not held accountable to God on them. Jesus is our Advocate for unintentional sins. I don't sin intentionally. You claim you do. I can't.

You need to understand the basics of the new covenant. The law is placed in your most inward parts, in your heart and mind. Meaning, in your mind you instinctively know how God wants you to live, and in your heart you want to live that way. You then get a saviour from sin, you have no righteousness of obeying the law. That includes the ten commandments. Contrary to what you and others think, that is not and cannot be a licence to sin for anyone who has the law in their heart. For if you remove righteousness of obeying the law, the law in your heart brings you to want to follow it, irrespective of having no righteousness of obeying the law.
The law within you is the safety valve of grace. You cannot therefore sin and be unconcerned at the sin due to not being conscious of sin. God made a foolproof covenant, there are no holes in it!

 

[Jim B]

It was Jesus who spoke to me in 2000 and said "I am giving you the office of teacher." He has since then equipped me. And by the way that was decades after my unintentional sins.

You're a wise woman. I have admired your posts.

 

[savedbygrace1]

I don't recall but I hope it is soon.

you'd feel much better if you just put me on ignore

 

[Bible Highlighter]

It may be a "common" word in Israel, and culturally not merely Muslim in use.

I would need proof of that by some kind of source. When I look up at this word it appears to be Muslim in origin.

 

[Johann]

You're delusional.

Not so hard, be gentle.
J.

 

[Jim B]

You need to understand the basics of the new covenant. The law is placed in your most inward parts, in your heart and mind. Meaning, in your mind you instinctively know how God wants you to live, and in your heart you want to live that way. You then get a saviour from sin, you have no righteousness of obeying the law. That includes the ten commandments. Contrary to what you and others think, that is not and cannot be a licence to sin for anyone who has the law in their heart. For if you remove righteousness of obeying the law, the law in your heart brings you to want to follow it, irrespective of having no righteousness of obeying the law.
The law within you is the safety valve of grace. You cannot therefore sin and be unconcerned at the sin due to not being conscious of sin. God made a foolproof covenant, there are no holes in it!

In other words, you're not saved, since you don't behave in this manner.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

No christain comits sin and believes its okay to do so

I wondered about that on looking back at my life. I had habits that I didn't know were sin for a long time, but God was still speaking to me the whole time. They didn't separate me from Him as I believe. So I asked Him, and He answered "because they were unintentional, not against God. So I then saw the New Covenant in a different way from the Old Covenant of break one you break them all.

 

[savedbygrace1]

In other words, you're not saved, since you don't behave in this manner.

I am unconcerned at the judgements of people on the internet. Especially those who have written posts such as you have