The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

[Bible Highlighter]

Many today falsely teach a form of Justification (Being saved by God’s grace by believing in Jesus as their Savior or the finished work of the cross) in that they believe that this is total removal of the penalty of sin (in regards to even future sin) once for all (Whereby they never need to worry about sin jeopardizing their soul ever again). While it is true that we are saved by God’s grace initially and foundationally by faith and not works, that is not the end of the story in God’s plan of salvation for us. First, only past sin is forgiven us. Second, believers also need to enter the Sanctification Process to live a holy life by the power of God’s Spirit (Whereby they will be fruitful, abstain from sin, and keep themselves unspotted from the world).

Many today also falsely say that Sanctification (Living progressively more holy by the inner working of God in them) is not a part of the removal of the penalty of sin, but it is in regard to be saved from the power of sin. But they really don’t believe that they are being saved from the power of sin because they think they will always sin this side of Heaven based on a false interpretation on 1 John 1:8. So they really don’t believe in true Sanctification. They also don’t realize that Sanctification is a part of the removal of the penalty of sin (after we are saved by God’s grace) (See: Romans 8:13).

Many will mock at this point and say…. “So you believe in Sinless Perfection for salvation?”

My reply to that is…. “No.” “Not all sin leads to spiritual death in the Bible.” “But believers need to overcome sin that leads to death at some point in this life in meeting the bare minimum level requirement of living holy to enter the Kingdom.” “The Bible makes clear which sins condemn and which ones don’t even though we strive to obey God in all His commands.”

Jesus said narrow is the way that leads unto life and few be there find it.
Only eight people made it on board the Ark and were saved.
If Noah did not obey the instructions of God in getting into the Ark, he would have most likely perished with everyone else. So it’s not just grace, but it’s also sanctification in understanding properly in how to deal with sin. Sin needs to be confessed and forsaken. If not, we will not be forgiven or saved. Believers need to strive and fight and live holy lives. For without holiness no man shall see the Lord (Hebrews 12:14).

1 Timothy 6:12 says fight the good fight of faith and lay hold on eternal life.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

There is no question that justification by faith and justification by works can not be separated from each other in a valid salvation experience. To not also be justified by works shows the person who claims to be justified by faith to be...well...a liar. But the issue here is justification by faith all by itself is what solicits the transforming power of the Holy Spirit in salvation. Works are the result of that justification. That's why you can't separate justification by faith from justification by works as the new OSAS teaching does.

 

[LearningToLetGo]

How do you understand Romans 4:4-5?

4 Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

How do you understand Romans 4:4-5?

4 Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

Being made righteous happens by having faith in God's promise of a Son, just like how that happened for Abraham. And so in the moment of faith a person is transformed and made right with God apart from any merit of work. But just as Abraham's obedience to sacrifice Isaac on the altar showed his faith in God's promise, so also our obedience to God shows our faith in God's promise, and so we are also justified (shown to be righteous) by what we do. Our works don't justify us in the sense that they make us righteous. They justify us in that they show us to be righteous.

"18 Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds." James 2:18​

 

[LearningToLetGo]

How do you understand Romans 4:4-5?

4 Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

The word "obligation" is what I want to focus on. Other translations use "debt".

Whom does that apply to? Within this context, who is obligated to whom?

 

[mailmandan]

Being made righteous happens by having faith in God's promise of a Son, just like how that happened for Abraham. And so in the moment of faith a person is transformed and made right with God apart from any merit of work. But just as Abraham's obedience to sacrifice Isaac on the altar showed his faith in God's promise, so also our obedience to God shows our faith in God's promise, and so we are also justified (shown to be righteous) by what we do. Our works don't justify us in the sense that they make us righteous. They justify us in that they show us to be righteous.

"18 Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds." James 2:18​

That is absolutely correct. Man is justified (accounted as righteous) by faith and not by works (Romans 4:2-3) and man is justified (shown to be righteous) by works. (James 2:21, 24) Depending on the context, the word "justified" can be used in either sense.

The Greek word for justified is "dikaioo" and is used in the later sense in James 2:21, 24.

1. to render righteous or such he ought to be
2. to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The word "obligation" is what I want to focus on. Other translations use "debt".

Whom does that apply to? Within this context, who is obligated to whom?

When we do righteous work to make God declare us to be righteous (aka, be justified) that causes God to declare us righteous as an obligation of debt he owes us for that righteous work. That is the very definition of the works gospel. That is impossible to do because no one can offer up the righteousness required to earn that declaration of righteousness. We are by nature - despite our occasional spates of righteous behavior - quite unrighteous. We can never perform the amount of work required for God to declare us righteous. And doing something righteous today does nothing about the unrighteousness we're already guilty of. And so God has provided the way of faith - faith in the blood to forgive and remove our unrighteousness and replace it with his righteousness - as the way that unrighteous man can be declared righteous in his sight. His righteousness is given to us as a free gift for the asking, as opposed to it being given to us as the debt he owes us for us doing righteous work. What a great God we have! How powerful! How wise!

 

[mailmandan]

There is no question that justification by faith and justification by works can not be separated from each other in a valid salvation experience. To not also be justified by works shows the person who claims to be justified by faith to be...well...a liar. But the issue here is justification by faith all by itself is what solicits the transforming power of the Holy Spirit in salvation. Works are the result of that justification. That's why you can't separate justification by faith from justification by works as the new OSAS teaching does.

Faith is the root of justification and works are the fruit. No fruit at all would demonstrate there is no root. Works bear out the justification that already came by faith.

 

[Enoch111]

Sin needs to be confessed and forsaken. If not, we will not be forgiven or saved.

If a sinner has been saved by grace through faith, then that is an accomplished fact in God's eyes. And because the New Birth occurs at that time (along with many other aspects of salvation), there is no reversal of either salvation or the New Birth. So what you have stated above is false. God does deal with persistent sin in the life of the believer, but that is a different issue. However when God justifies a sinner He (1) declares him or her as "righteous" and (2) gives the robe of imputed righteousness at the same time.

 

[Jim B]

If a sinner has been saved by grace through faith, then that is an accomplished fact in God's eyes. And because the New Birth occurs at that time (along with many other aspects of salvation), there is no reversal of either salvation or the New Birth. So what you have stated above is false. God does deal with persistent sin in the life of the believer, but that is a different issue. However when God justifies a sinner He (1) declares him or her as "righteous" and (2) gives the robe of imputed righteousness at the same time.

Great post!

 

[ScottA]

Many today falsely teach a form of Justification (Being saved by God’s grace by believing in Jesus as their Savior or the finished work of the cross) in that they believe that this is total removal of the penalty of sin (in regards to even future sin) once for all (Whereby they never need to worry about sin jeopardizing their soul ever again). While it is true that we are saved by God’s grace initially and foundationally by faith and not works, that is not the end of the story in God’s plan of salvation for us. First, only past sin is forgiven us. Second, believers also need to enter the Sanctification Process to live a holy life by the power of God’s Spirit (Whereby they will be fruitful, abstain from sin, and keep themselves unspotted from the world).

Many today also falsely say that Sanctification (Living progressively more holy by the inner working of God in them) is not a part of the removal of the penalty of sin, but it is in regard to be saved from the power of sin. But they really don’t believe that they are being saved from the power of sin because they think they will always sin this side of Heaven based on a false interpretation on 1 John 1:8. So they really don’t believe in true Sanctification. They also don’t realize that Sanctification is a part of the removal of the penalty of sin (after we are saved by God’s grace) (See: Romans 8:13).

Many will mock at this point and say…. “So you believe in Sinless Perfection for salvation?”

My reply to that is…. “No.” “Not all sin leads to spiritual death in the Bible.” “But believers need to overcome sin that leads to death at some point in this life in meeting the bare minimum level requirement of living holy to enter the Kingdom.” “The Bible makes clear which sins condemn and which ones don’t even though we strive to obey God in all His commands.”

Jesus said narrow is the way that leads unto life and few be there find it.
Only eight people made it on board the Ark and were saved.
If Noah did not obey the instructions of God in getting into the Ark, he would have most likely perished with everyone else. So it’s not just grace, but it’s also sanctification in understanding properly in how to deal with sin. Sin needs to be confessed and forsaken. If not, we will not be forgiven or saved. Believers need to strive and fight and live holy lives. For without holiness no man shall see the Lord (Hebrews 12:14).

1 Timothy 6:12 says fight the good fight of faith and lay hold on eternal life.

That is a misunderstanding of the very nature of God.

When one comes to Christ and is born [again] of the spirit of God--it is less about them, than it is about God--and God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

So, the one who believes salvation is more about them, has not died to self, nor is such a one alive therefore to God. By definition, that is not yet salvation. Nor is that believing faith...that is faith in one's self to workout their own salvation--which was not any indication of how salvation works for those who are born again of the spirit of God, but rather an indication of what is still needed for those who have not yet come to the point of dying to self. These fully believe they must wait until the grave--and so they do, by that same measure.

But those who do lay down their life to self as Christ also laid down His life, then take up their cross and bear sin until "It is finished", in which case, it is indeed finished in Christ from that first moment.

Which means that the "end" which one must endure to, is "the End", meaning Christ, rather than that end when "It is finished." This is how one "follows" Christ. In this same way, Christ did not lay down His life and sin no more until his body breathed its last breath, as some define salvation and the end of sins. Not at all. That is misunderstanding. But rather, Christ took up His cross--and then bore the sins of all until "It is finished." Which we also do until death of the body--but the death of sins is paid in full when we first lay them down at the cross.

Again--we are to "follow" and do as Christ did: 1) Lay down our life in coming to Christ, that He may raise us up when? "The last day." Which, if we have died to sin and self, is that day--our last day of life to self, as we once lived. 2) Take up our cross and bear our sins, until 3) "It is finished."

As it is written, "Christ died once for all."

 

[Bible Highlighter]

If a sinner has been saved by grace through faith, then that is an accomplished fact in God's eyes. And because the New Birth occurs at that time (along with many other aspects of salvation), there is no reversal of either salvation or the New Birth. So what you have stated above is false. God does deal with persistent sin in the life of the believer, but that is a different issue. However when God justifies a sinner He (1) declares him or her as "righteous" and (2) gives the robe of imputed righteousness at the same time.

Sorry. Grace does not give believers some kind of diplomatic immunity towards sin (i.e. Meaning: Your future sin is not forgiven you). Only past sins are cleansed. If new sin is accrued, then one needs to confess and forsake sin in order to have continued mercy or salvation (Proverbs 28:13) (1 John 1:9) (1 John 1:7).

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes, there is a robe of righteousness, but that only applies to a believer who exercises the right kind of faith (faith and faithfulness). God’s grace is not a license for immortality (Jude 1:4).

For one can also soil their garment and have their name blotted out of the book of life.

Revelation 3:1-6
“And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

 

[Bible Highlighter]

The Bible teaches only past sins are forgiven us (not future sins).

Believers need to confess and
forsake sin to continue to obtain forgiveness (or salvation).

Here are the verses in the Bible that teach or imply that past sins only are forgiven:

2 Peter 1:9 KJB
“But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.”

2 Peter 1:9 BLB
“For in whomever these things are not present, he is blind, being short sighted, having received forgetfulness of the purification from his former sins.”

1 John 1:9 KJB
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

Acts of the Apostles 8:22 KJB
“Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.”

Hebrews 10:26 KJB
“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,”

Proverbs 28:13 KJB
“He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.”

Romans 6:22-23 KJB
22 “But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

Romans 8:13 KJB
“For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 KJB
9 “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”

John 3:20 KJB
“For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.”

1 John 3:15 KJB
“Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.”

1 John 3:8 KJB
“He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.”

Acts of the Apostles 5:1-11 KJB
1 “But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.”

Matthew 10:33 KJB
“But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.”

Matthew 6:15 KJB
“But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”

Revelation 22:12-15 KJB
12 “And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie

 

[Bible Highlighter]

When we do righteous work to make God declare us to be righteous (aka, be justified) that causes God to declare us righteous as an obligation of debt he owes us for that righteous work. That is the very definition of the works gospel. That is impossible to do because no one can offer up the righteousness required to earn that declaration of righteousness. We are by nature - despite our occasional spates of righteous behavior - quite unrighteous. We can never perform the amount of work required for God to declare us righteous. And doing something righteous today does nothing about the unrighteousness we're already guilty of. And so God has provided the way of faith - faith in the blood to forgive and remove our unrighteousness and replace it with his righteousness - as the way that unrighteous man can be declared righteous in his sight. His righteousness is given to us as a free gift for the asking, as opposed to it being given to us as the debt he owes us for us doing righteous work. What a great God we have! How powerful! How wise!

The gospel is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. But there is a call of the gospel mentioned in Scripture that most Christians are ignorant of. It’s 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14. It tell us this call of the gospel is that God has chosen you to salvation through Sanctification of the Spirit and a belief of the truth. Romans 8:13 echoes a similar truth in that of you put to death the misdeeds of the body (sin) by the Spirit, you will live (live eternally).

 

[MatthewG]

If all sin was taken care of doesn’t that mean all sin was taken care of?

Sure we fall short, but that doesn’t mean God will vindicate is wrath upon us, all the Law and ordanices were nailed to the cross,

So… individually if one sins or whatever they have the option to confess that before God or not right? The only thing a Christian can really fail at is not having love towards God and not having love towards a their fellow man?

When those times arise they should talk to God about it, and say they are struggling with some sin that keeps them from God they can also pray and ask God to give them strength to overcome, the thing is, Gods grace is sufficient enough for them even if they don’t overcome; that is what Paul had stated anyway when he prayed for something to be taken away from him and we don’t have any idea (some say it was he bad eyes but who really knows what it was besides God).

Jesus paid for sin for all sin once on the cross; believers are given the ability through Christ to overcome sin and become dead to their former life and live to the new life in Christ right?

I personally don’t think it is good to harp on people about sins, but rather share about Gods love and the gospel message and allow God to move in and allow the person to decide for themselves how they will decide to live their life subjective with knowing that the Holy Spirit of God lives within them and the Spirit of Christ.

 

[LearningToLetGo]

Is there a difference between accidental/incidental sinning post salvation, e.g a weak willed man who can't help but drink too much and get in corresponding trouble from same, and intentional sinning, e.g. a man who is jealous of his neighbor and actively seeks to steal (or worse!) from him? It seems to me there is. Perhaps this entire thread is predicated on a misunderstanding of what each other are saying?

 

[Robert Gwin]

Many today falsely teach a form of Justification (Being saved by God’s grace by believing in Jesus as their Savior or the finished work of the cross) in that they believe that this is total removal of the penalty of sin (in regards to even future sin) once for all (Whereby they never need to worry about sin jeopardizing their soul ever again). While it is true that we are saved by God’s grace initially and foundationally by faith and not works, that is not the end of the story in God’s plan of salvation for us. First, only past sin is forgiven us. Second, believers also need to enter the Sanctification Process to live a holy life by the power of God’s Spirit (Whereby they will be fruitful, abstain from sin, and keep themselves unspotted from the world).

Many today also falsely say that Sanctification (Living progressively more holy by the inner working of God in them) is not a part of the removal of the penalty of sin, but it is in regard to be saved from the power of sin. But they really don’t believe that they are being saved from the power of sin because they think they will always sin this side of Heaven based on a false interpretation on 1 John 1:8. So they really don’t believe in true Sanctification. They also don’t realize that Sanctification is a part of the removal of the penalty of sin (after we are saved by God’s grace) (See: Romans 8:13).

Many will mock at this point and say…. “So you believe in Sinless Perfection for salvation?”

My reply to that is…. “No.” “Not all sin leads to spiritual death in the Bible.” “But believers need to overcome sin that leads to death at some point in this life in meeting the bare minimum level requirement of living holy to enter the Kingdom.” “The Bible makes clear which sins condemn and which ones don’t even though we strive to obey God in all His commands.”

Jesus said narrow is the way that leads unto life and few be there find it.
Only eight people made it on board the Ark and were saved.
If Noah did not obey the instructions of God in getting into the Ark, he would have most likely perished with everyone else. So it’s not just grace, but it’s also sanctification in understanding properly in how to deal with sin. Sin needs to be confessed and forsaken. If not, we will not be forgiven or saved. Believers need to strive and fight and live holy lives. For without holiness no man shall see the Lord (Hebrews 12:14).

1 Timothy 6:12 says fight the good fight of faith and lay hold on eternal life.

The Bible gives requirements for salvation, the only way is to be obedient to God's commandments for Christians according to each individuals capabilities Mat 25:14-30

 

[Bible Highlighter]

How do you understand Romans 4:4-5?

4 Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

First, before I begin, you need to understand that I believe the Bible teaches that there are two aspects of salvation.

#1. Believers are saved by God’s grace without works (Ephesians 2:8-9) (Romans 4:3-5) (Romans 11:6) (Titus 3:5).
This is believing the gospel message in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, and admitting with a godly sorrow that one has sinned against God to the Lord Jesus Christ by way of prayer and saying, “Lord Jesus” or similar equivalent (Romans 10:9-10, Romans 10:13). If a believer stumbles into sin on occasion, they don’t go out and do a good work to absolve that sin, but they confess of that sin to the Lord Jesus Christ to be forgiven of that sin (1 John 1:9) (1 John 2:1). So God’s grace is not only the entrance gate of our salvation but it is foundational.

#2. Believers are saved in the Sanctification Process of God so as to live a holy life (2 Thessalonians 2:13-14) (Romans 8:13). After one is saved by God’s grace without works, they need to enter the Sanctification Process to live a holy life. This is putting away sin, doing good works (by God doing the good work through them), and in keeping themselves unspotted from this world. For most believers this takes time for them to mature and grow to learn about God’s commands in the New Testament and to then learn to put away sin out of their lives at some point in their life. For if they don’t overcome in this life and live holy, they will not see the Lord (Hebrews 12:14). When is that point? Only God knows each person’s heart and life. Some do not want even to live holy but they simply justify sin by saying they will always sin this side of Heaven or by having a wrong interpretation on 1 John 1:8.​

Second, as for your point on Romans 4:4-5:

Romans Four & Works of Earning Money vs. Works of Responsibility in Owning a Free Gift:

To him that works his reward is not of grace but it is of debt as if it was some kind of obligation like at a job whereby he works so as to earn money.

"Now to a laborer, his wages are not counted as a favor or a gift, but as an obligation (something owed to him)." (Romans 4:4) (AMPC).​

Verse 4 explains verse 5 that says,

“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” (Romans 4:5).

So we have to understand the term “works not.”

Works Alone or trading dollars for hours like at a job involving salvation is wrong. Works Alone Salvationism (without God’s grace) is wrong because one has no grace or rest ever. This would purely be a works based system of salvation with no grace or mercy (like with Christ) if one messes up. A person’s good deeds have to outweigh their bad deeds.

But this is not the same thing as "Works of Responsibility in Owning a Free Gift."

I believe God's grace is a free gift as Scripture says (Ephesians 2:8). Gifts are received, and then we do works of responsibility to take care of those gifts.

Let me give you an example:

If Rick received a car as a free gift from his dad, does that mean he can run red lights, drive drunk, and hit pedestrians? No. If he were to do that, he would not have his gift for very long. Now, was his car any less a free gift because he had to do works of responsibility in possessing his free gift? No. Did Rick have to work at a job and get a loan to buy this car? No. It was a free gift from his dad.

Here is another example:

If Billy-Bob prayed for a wife for many years and he eventually receive a wife from the Lord and consider her as a gift, then that does not mean Billy-Bob can cheat on her and or not love her and expect for her to stay with him. It is the same with God. Disloyalty to GOD means we do not really love GOD and we just love ourselves more than Him. GOD calls us to obedience to His Word. This was the problem that goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden. But men today want to say that we can break God's commands and they will not die. This was the same lie that the enemy was trying to sell Eve on. The serpent told her that she would not die if she ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Which was a violation of God's command).

Anyways, in conclusion: We know that working like at a job (trading dollars for hours) is not the same as doing "Works of responsibility in owning a free gift." Paul is not talking about responsibility in possessing Jesus Christ (Who is our gift). Paul is talking about trying to earn your salvation by a system of "Works Salvationism Alone" that did not include God's grace at all. But men today confuse the issue to justify sin under God’s grace (Which is what Jude 1:4 warns against).

Paul says a person can deny God by being reprobate unto every good work (Titus 1:16).
So we do see a different kind of work that is necessary or required.
For obviously a person cannot deny God and be saved;
And yet we know a person can deny God by being reprobate unto every good work.

In other words, we have to look at the whole counsel of God’s Word and not just believe popular Christianity that has hoodwinked people today to justify sin on some level. This is why we are living in the last days and men are lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God; This is why men have a form of godliness but they deny the power thereof. (2 Timothy 3:1-9). What power are they denying? They are denying the power mentioned in Galatians 5:24, 1 Peter 4:1-2, and 2 Corinthians 7:1, etcetera. They walk by sight or experience and not by faith. But with God, all things are possible. But they don’t want to play ball exactly on His terms. They want the popular way that fits in with the crowd (that justifies sin on some level).

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Bible gives requirements for salvation, the only way is to be obedient to God's commandments for Christians according to each individuals capabilities Mat 25:14-30

Yeah it gives requirments

Obey every word of the law perfectly

Believe in Gods provision and sacrifice of the cross

These are the ony two ways.

This post just proves you have no understanding of the law