The LAW And The RELEASE

[GRACE ambassador]

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“But The Scripture Hath Concluded all under sin, that
The Promise By Faith Of Jesus Christ might be given
to them that believe” (Gal. 3:22).

Jumping to Conclusions​

When Paul says that “the Scripture hath concluded all under sin,” this is not
a conclusion that God jumped at. Men are always jumping to conclusions,
especially in the medical field. Years ago I read about a study that concluded
that a certain medical procedure performed on the body is bad for your brain.

But this conclusion was based on a study that only involved a hundred people
for less than a year. I’d say they jumped to that conclusion a little prematurely,
wouldn’t you?

Conversely, when we read that “the Scripture Hath Concluded all under sin,”
we know that God Based His findings on an experiment that He conducted in
Israel for 1500 years, one that involved millions of people.

We speak of course of the dispensation of the Law, an extensive study
that left God no choice but to Conclude that all men were “under sin,”
as Paul says in our text above...
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(R Kurth)

FULL study:
The LAW And The RELEASE

GRACE And Peace...

 

[Robert Gwin]

"

“But The Scripture Hath Concluded all under sin, that
The Promise By Faith Of Jesus Christ might be given
to them that believe” (Gal. 3:22).

Jumping to Conclusions​

When Paul says that “the Scripture hath concluded all under sin,” this is not
a conclusion that God jumped at. Men are always jumping to conclusions,
especially in the medical field. Years ago I read about a study that concluded
that a certain medical procedure performed on the body is bad for your brain.

But this conclusion was based on a study that only involved a hundred people
for less than a year. I’d say they jumped to that conclusion a little prematurely,
wouldn’t you?

Conversely, when we read that “the Scripture Hath Concluded all under sin,”
we know that God Based His findings on an experiment that He conducted in
Israel for 1500 years, one that involved millions of people.

We speak of course of the dispensation of the Law, an extensive study
that left God no choice but to Conclude that all men were “under sin,”
as Paul says in our text above...
"
(R Kurth)

FULL study:
The LAW And The RELEASE

GRACE And Peace...

We have been released from the laws handed down through Moses sir, however many of those laws were continued and given to Christians in the Greek scriptures. We are still under obligation to observe 9 of the 10 Commandments, and perhaps some of the other laws as well, although I cannot think of an example at this time, actually I just did, the marriage arrangement was one that although altered slightly was carried over.

 

[Jim B]

We have been released from the laws handed down through Moses sir, however many of those laws were continued and given to Christians in the Greek scriptures. We are still under obligation to observe 9 of the 10 Commandments, and perhaps some of the other laws as well, although I cannot think of an example at this time, actually I just did, the marriage arrangement was one that although altered slightly was carried over.

Christians aren't under any obligation to obey the Old Covenant law. If we are, why was the New Covenant instituted?

Romans 7:4, "So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you could be joined to another, to the one who was raised from the dead, to bear fruit to God."

 

[Robert Gwin]

Christians aren't under any obligation to obey the Old Covenant law. If we are, why was the New Covenant instituted?

Romans 7:4, "So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you could be joined to another, to the one who was raised from the dead, to bear fruit to God."

Only those laws that carried over to the Greek Scriptures (New Testament). What are some of those laws Jim?

 

[Jim B]

Only those laws that carried over to the Greek Scriptures (New Testament). What are some of those laws Jim?

You show me. None of the Old Testament laws are applicable to Christians. We are under grace, not under law. The law was a "schoolmaster" to lead us to Christ.

 

[Robert Gwin]

You show me. None of the Old Testament laws are applicable to Christians. We are under grace, not under law. The law was a "schoolmaster" to lead us to Christ.

Is Jesus indicating we are under the most important one when he said this Jim, or it has no relevance:
(Matthew 22:37, 38) . . .“‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment.

Now it is true, that was a law for Jesus, but do you think he meant us to continue to do so even after he released us from the law? Fact is sir, if you believe the latter it is stated point blank at Rev 22:9
Just one more example sir :
(Exodus 20:13) 13 “You must not murder.
(Revelation 21:8) . . .But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This means the second death.”
There is just a couple Jim. But that is really not the issue, you point blank stated we are not under law, which is dangerous sir, there are many laws issued to Christians. Heb 10:24,25 is not an option, and those who love God observe His commandments 1 Jn 5:3 so you see sir, we do have laws. They may not be presented as being law in the new testament, but when they are "suggested" they really are not an option.

 

[Jim B]

Is Jesus indicating we are under the most important one when he said this Jim, or it has no relevance:
(Matthew 22:37, 38) . . .“‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment.

Now it is true, that was a law for Jesus, but do you think he meant us to continue to do so even after he released us from the law? Fact is sir, if you believe the latter it is stated point blank at Rev 22:9
Just one more example sir :
(Exodus 20:13) 13 “You must not murder.
(Revelation 21:8) . . .But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This means the second death.”
There is just a couple Jim. But that is really not the issue, you point blank stated we are not under law, which is dangerous sir, there are many laws issued to Christians. Heb 10:24,25 is not an option, and those who love God observe His commandments 1 Jn 5:3 so you see sir, we do have laws. They may not be presented as being law in the new testament, but when they are "suggested" they really are not an option.

To whom was Jesus speaking in this quote from Matthew? The Jews (and perhaps a few Gentiles). It happened prior to the giving of the Holy Spirit, who will guide us (Christians) into all truth.

You're either under the law or you're guided by the Spirit. You can't be both. If you're not guided by the Spirit then you're not "born again".

Romans 7:4 and 7:6 encapsulate this doctrine perfectly, "So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you could be joined to another, to the one who was raised from the dead, to bear fruit to God...But now we have been released from the law, because we have died to what controlled us, so that we may serve in the new life of the Spirit and not under the old written code." Also Romans 6:14, "For sin will have no mastery over you, because you are not under law but under grace." and Galatians 5:18, "But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law."

 

[Robert Gwin]

To whom was Jesus speaking in this quote from Matthew? The Jews (and perhaps a few Gentiles). It happened prior to the giving of the Holy Spirit, who will guide us (Christians) into all truth.

You're either under the law or you're guided by the Spirit. You can't be both. If you're not guided by the Spirit then you're not "born again".

Romans 7:4 and 7:6 encapsulate this doctrine perfectly, "So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you could be joined to another, to the one who was raised from the dead, to bear fruit to God...But now we have been released from the law, because we have died to what controlled us, so that we may serve in the new life of the Spirit and not under the old written code." Also Romans 6:14, "For sin will have no mastery over you, because you are not under law but under grace." and Galatians 5:18, "But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law."

Yes Jesus was sent to the Jews, but his teachings do in fact apply to us Mat 28:20. Did you overlook what the angel said to John that I included Jim?

 

[Jim B]

Yes Jesus was sent to the Jews, but his teachings do in fact apply to us Mat 28:20. Did you overlook what the angel said to John that I included Jim?

Okay, then keep all the Old Testament laws. Start sacrificing animals for forgiveness of your sins, as that is what the law commands.

If you put yourself back under the law then there is no hope for you, as you are denying Christ's sacrifice for all sin.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Okay, then keep all the Old Testament laws. Start sacrificing animals for forgiveness of your sins, as that is what the law commands.

If you put yourself back under the law then there is no hope for you, as you are denying Christ's sacrifice for all sin.

Applied to the wrong person Jim, I believe Rom 10:4