IS IT A SIN FOR A CHRISTIAN TO VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT, OR IS IT JUST WRONG??

[Davy]

Are the democrats communists? Are democrats atheists? The green concept can be seen as the worship of the goddess of nature.

Both parties have been infiltrated. Neither one is totally dependable. But to me the lesser choice of evil is the Republican Party, specifically because they still follow 'some' Biblical principles.

Also, it might interest one to know where the political terms liberal and conservative originated. The term 'Liberal' originated from the French Revolution in 1780's France, and was represented by the watchwords 'liberty, equality, fraternity'. Secular history hides the real origin of those watchwords, they come from Masonry (with the addition of the watchword 'brotherhood'). The extreme Liberal was called a Libertine, and they completely scrapped all sense of morals, and were truly the first to push the "if it feels good, do it" mentality.

In opposition to the liberal movements behind the French Revolution, some in Great Britain coined the political term Conservative in contrast to the French Liberal.

 

[Grailhunter]

Both parties have been infiltrated. Neither one is totally dependable. But to me the lesser choice of evil is the Republican Party, specifically because they still follow 'some' Biblical principles.

Also, it might interest one to know where the political terms liberal and conservative originated. The term 'Liberal' originated from the French Revolution in 1780's France, and was represented by the watchwords 'liberty, equality, fraternity'. Secular history hides the real origin of those watchwords, they come from Masonry (with the addition of the watchword 'brotherhood'). The extreme Liberal was called a Libertine, and they completely scrapped all sense of morals, and were truly the first to push the "if it feels good, do it" mentality.

In opposition to the liberal movements behind the French Revolution, some in Great Britain coined the political term Conservative in contrast to the French Liberal.

I am well versed with history....and the funny is that the American Revolutionary War and French Revolutionary War although were about freedom, in a lot of ways they were like apples and oranges.

As far as politicians, ain't none of them that are squeaky clean. Ever hear a guy say, I am the kind of guy.....
Talk is cheap....I believe you are what you do....my interest in politicians is what they do on the job. Do they include God and morals and patriotism in their campaigns? Do they fight for the morals for God and country?

What are their initiatives, how do they vote? Do they do what they say they are going to do? Do they vote for and implement moral initiatives? On all these points and including God in his campaign....Trump excelled.

If the democrats did that they would lose voters, and that proves that the democrat voters are just as bad as the democrat politicians. And they know that, that is why they removed the word God out of the Pledge of Allegiance at their DNC. And they did it in a way so that everyone understood that they had remove the word God from the Pledge of Allegiance. Proud to deny God!

The democrats use minorities as stepping stones for votes and their desire to see this country communist and atheist. And I do mean use, because they have been playing the minorities for fools for decades. The only ones that have seen real support are the druggies and perverts and criminals.....and the criminals find great satisfaction in being coddled by the democrats while they condemning law enforcement and setup the courts so they have nothing to fear if they get caught. You would be hard press to find a moral initiative in the democrat party because it is the last thing they are concerned about.

So the bottom line, my interest in politicians, is what they do in office.

 

[Davy]

I am well versed with history....and the funny is that the American Revolutionary War and French Revolutionary War although were about freedom, in a lot of ways they were like apples and oranges.

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So the bottom line, my interest in politicians, is what they do in office.

I agree with that, what they 'do' being most important. But there's also their promise-making in their campaigns, even the good ones that do. Not everyone realizes some promises they may make they really have no control over if they get into office.

You might be interested in the book Proofs Of a Conspiracy by the British naturalist John Robison written in 1798.

He was a British Mason. But he was condemning continental masonry because he said true masonry only had 3 degrees and that's all, and that the Continent of Europe got their masonry from Britain originally. The masonic lodges on the Continent of Europe had allowed Weishuapt's Illuminati order to creep in, and add many degrees on top of the original 3 degrees. Robison outlines some of them.

What his book suggests, applied to the American founders, since many of them were Masons, is that just as there was a rift between the lodges in Britain and in the Continent of Europe, the same probably existed among the American founders. I believe this difference also showed politically in the founder's arguments.

 

[Grailhunter]

I agree with that, what they 'do' being most important. But there's also their promise-making in their campaigns, even the good ones that do. Not everyone realizes some promises they may make they really have no control over if they get into office.

You might be interested in the book Proofs Of a Conspiracy by the British naturalist John Robison written in 1798.

He was a British Mason. But he was condemning continental masonry because he said true masonry only had 3 degrees and that's all, and that the Continent of Europe got their masonry from Britain originally. The masonic lodges on the Continent of Europe had allowed Weishuapt's Illuminati order to creep in, and add many degrees on top of the original 3 degrees. Robison outlines some of them.

What his book suggests, applied to the American founders, since many of them were Masons, is that just as there was a rift between the lodges in Britain and in the Continent of Europe, the same probably existed among the American founders. I believe this difference also showed politically in the founder's arguments.

I have always found conspiracy theorists entertaining. And also those that do not believe conspiracies exist.

Some define conspiracies as always negative or have an intent to do harm. In that context there can be only so many successful conspiracies because anything of any significance takes a number of people and as we know even the best layed plans can go awry.

But history is full of conspiracies.....when it comes to world affairs and governments and organizations, clandestine plans among groups is / are normal. Clandestine plans can be seen by some to be good....but from someone else's perspective they can see it as bad.

And you cannot get me started on the American Revolution because we will be here all night.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

LOL

Why should I challenge you when you're so clearly wrong? And "full of yourself".[/QUOT



Let’s have a debate over saying that “ Quailhunter” was “ full of himself” was the Understatement Of the Year!

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Do they do what they say they are going to do? Do they vote for and implement moral initiatives? On all these points and including God in his campaign....Trump excelled.



Trump doing what he said he would do? lol....where is that Great Wall? Where are the Mexicans that were guaranteed to pay for it? Where is his “ Beautiful Health Plan? Where are those Tax Teturns That He promised to show after the election?I thought that Satan was supposed to be “ The Father Of Lies”....... it seems that Satan has some competition.....Please don’t tell me that “ all politicians lie”...... that isTrue , and every other human- being lies on occasion but this Orange Pinocchio lies as naturally as most folks breath....

Morality ? This Orange Hitler has the “ morality” of a Bastard Rat.....Unless you like to hang around, you and your wife, with guys who like to “grab P*****s” , ......This Goon was divorced three time and cheated on every one of his wives......he paid money to have sex with Porn Stars....He was not MAN ENOUGH to admit he lost the ELection that even his own appointed judges and Attorney General declared To be without corruption.......Trump lied and Five died....he has blood on his tiny hands and you Lemmings that are part of his “ Sap Brigade” call yourselves “ Christians” and could not care less about any of it.......when they tried to hang his “ Lickspittle” Vice President ( you know—- the guy with the fly on his head) Rump didn’t try to stop anything .....in fact he said that Pence “ deserved it” .....I am no fan of Biden just because I loathe a man who possesses a Black Heart....Biden is also an idiot, but he at least has a good heart and he at least does not have Blood on his hands....


Trump uses “ God” the same way he uses you .....He’s no more a “ Christian “ than Fidel Castro who also claimed to be one....He is as Lost as a man can get—- proof being that he is on record as saying, “ I never have to ask for forgiveness because I have never done anything to ask forgiveness for”.....if you thank that came from the lips Of a Born-Again Believer , you are as Deceived as He is.....

Trump is nothing but a Con- Man .....and such a transparent one .....if you did not see that clearly years ago, *YOU* are the one that got “ Conned”—— YOU are his “Mark”.....Congrats! I guess “ gullibility “ is similar to “ Stupidity” —— there just ain’t no cure....

 

[n2thelight]

I put this in Theology because it is a question of Christian morals.

Taking these democrat initiatives into consideration.

Abortion
LGBTQ
Gun Control
High taxes
Open borders---invasion of illegal aliens receiving government subsidies---Opposed security wall. Sanctuary cities for illegal aliens. Offering tax payer social services and medical to illegal aliens.

Against election security---No ID's required---illegal aliens voting---students on visas---Not allowing law enforcement---covering windows---running ballots after the monitors have left. Since they desire Marxism or communism they do not want fair and honest elections so they do everything they can to make it easy to cheat.

Federal prisoners voting---voter fraud on several levels.

Trying to program our children in school and collages to learn critical race theory and cancel culture history and communism and normalization of homosexualality and anti-Christian beliefs.

Support drug use --- pot stores---lenient on drug offenders.

Soft on crime, revolving door courts that gets people killed. Short prison sentences.

Anti-law enforcement---defund the police---supporting resisting arrest---blame everything on law enforcement.

Reduction of the military.

Working hard and as quick as possible to destroy the economy and jobs. Moving into a recession now.

Doing everything possible to cause inflation, concentrating on what will cause price increases a crossed the board. Groceries, clothes, automobiles, nearly everything.

Democrats are against gas and oil and shutdown wells and pipelines causing high gas prices at the pump and home heating. Purchasing oil from over sea so the prices will be higher.

Anti-Christian---forbid assembly of churches---arrest pastors.

Promoting the idea that if you are white and Christian, and a patriot, you are a white supremacist.

Promoting LGBTQ, communism, atheism, cancel culture, and disrespect towards their mother and fathers in our schools and colleges.

Supported the BLM riots---BLM leaders declare they are Marxist and chat cuss words to Christ as they march---burning Bibles---and churches---take cities hostage---burning and looting---assaults---rapes---murders---going to the homes of politicians they did not like and harassing them---democrats give a big thumbs up to all these hate crimes.

Cancel culture---the democrat attack on all we value and hold good. Physical attack on landmarks. But they salute those Pot stores and abortion clinics...LOL.

Support every give me – hand out Socialist program possible.

Some strange brand of communism.

Trying to get us all to drive electric cars…LOL And hiding all the dangers of them.

Are the democrats behind the movement to lower the age of consent? So they can have sex with 14 year old boys and girls? Are they behind human trafficking? Are they using human trafficking to fulfill their lusts until they can lower the age of consent? This is something that is going on under the radar.
It is the whole environment that they desire that makes me think it is possible. LGBTQ and the promotion of drugs and pot stores and other perversions. Watching Biden fondle children in front of the camera is sickening. Like father, like son, his son is a drug user and child molester. And of course his vice-president openly admits to being a druggie. Extremely serious and evil topics that people need to look into. How prevalent is human trafficking in your area? You need to know.

Then we have the crazy corner....stupid or crazy....you decide?
The democrats have forbid any member of the party to identify what a woman is? I have personally seen them on TV refusing to identify what a female is. Even a female that is a candidate for the Supreme Court. Why? Because they support the LGBTQ community and want male transvestites to play in female sports...That is high school, collage, and the Olympics.

Of course it was Barak Hussein Obama that initiated this but still stupid. Uni-sex restrooms in high schools and collages. On how many levels is this wrong? One of many reasons you do not want to send your kids to a public school. Well you might want to check because the democrats are trying to force it on private schools.

Don't know if you do but I'm assuming you support the nation of state of Israel ,if so do you know their abortion laws

I put this in Theology because it is a question of Christian morals.

Taking these democrat initiatives into consideration.

Abortion
LGBTQ
Gun Control
High taxes
Open borders---invasion of illegal aliens receiving government subsidies---Opposed security wall. Sanctuary cities for illegal aliens. Offering tax payer social services and medical to illegal aliens.

Against election security---No ID's required---illegal aliens voting---students on visas---Not allowing law enforcement---covering windows---running ballots after the monitors have left. Since they desire Marxism or communism they do not want fair and honest elections so they do everything they can to make it easy to cheat.

Federal prisoners voting---voter fraud on several levels.

Trying to program our children in school and collages to learn critical race theory and cancel culture history and communism and normalization of homosexualality and anti-Christian beliefs.

Support drug use --- pot stores---lenient on drug offenders.

Soft on crime, revolving door courts that gets people killed. Short prison sentences.

Anti-law enforcement---defund the police---supporting resisting arrest---blame everything on law enforcement.

Reduction of the military.

Working hard and as quick as possible to destroy the economy and jobs. Moving into a recession now.

Doing everything possible to cause inflation, concentrating on what will cause price increases a crossed the board. Groceries, clothes, automobiles, nearly everything.

Democrats are against gas and oil and shutdown wells and pipelines causing high gas prices at the pump and home heating. Purchasing oil from over sea so the prices will be higher.

Anti-Christian---forbid assembly of churches---arrest pastors.

Promoting the idea that if you are white and Christian, and a patriot, you are a white supremacist.

Promoting LGBTQ, communism, atheism, cancel culture, and disrespect towards their mother and fathers in our schools and colleges.

Supported the BLM riots---BLM leaders declare they are Marxist and chat cuss words to Christ as they march---burning Bibles---and churches---take cities hostage---burning and looting---assaults---rapes---murders---going to the homes of politicians they did not like and harassing them---democrats give a big thumbs up to all these hate crimes.

Cancel culture---the democrat attack on all we value and hold good. Physical attack on landmarks. But they salute those Pot stores and abortion clinics...LOL.

Support every give me – hand out Socialist program possible.

Some strange brand of communism.

Trying to get us all to drive electric cars…LOL And hiding all the dangers of them.

Are the democrats behind the movement to lower the age of consent? So they can have sex with 14 year old boys and girls? Are they behind human trafficking? Are they using human trafficking to fulfill their lusts until they can lower the age of consent? This is something that is going on under the radar.
It is the whole environment that they desire that makes me think it is possible. LGBTQ and the promotion of drugs and pot stores and other perversions. Watching Biden fondle children in front of the camera is sickening. Like father, like son, his son is a drug user and child molester. And of course his vice-president openly admits to being a druggie. Extremely serious and evil topics that people need to look into. How prevalent is human trafficking in your area? You need to know.

Then we have the crazy corner....stupid or crazy....you decide?
The democrats have forbid any member of the party to identify what a woman is? I have personally seen them on TV refusing to identify what a female is. Even a female that is a candidate for the Supreme Court. Why? Because they support the LGBTQ community and want male transvestites to play in female sports...That is high school, collage, and the Olympics.

Of course it was Barak Hussein Obama that initiated this but still stupid. Uni-sex restrooms in high schools and collages. On how many levels is this wrong? One of many reasons you do not want to send your kids to a public school. Well you might want to check because the democrats are trying to force it on private schools.

 

[Dropship]

As a Brit I'm neutral about American politics but I have to say the Dems seem very nonchristian by being for GLBT "rights", and are also anti-police, pro-immigration etc, all of which is against the ethics of Christianity.
Example- they're against Trump's Wall, so we can only assume they don't mind scrounging illegals crossing the border, in contravention of these verses-
Jesus said- "It is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs....do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces" (Matthew 15:26,Matthew 7:6)
"Don't let unbelievers into your house or bid them God speed" (2 John 1:10 KJV)

And the Dems even support legal immigration-

 

[Jim B]

I am well versed with history....and the funny is that the American Revolutionary War and French Revolutionary War although were about freedom, in a lot of ways they were like apples and oranges.

As far as politicians, ain't none of them that are squeaky clean. Ever hear a guy say, I am the kind of guy.....
Talk is cheap....I believe you are what you do....my interest in politicians is what they do on the job. Do they include God and morals and patriotism in their campaigns? Do they fight for the morals for God and country?

What are their initiatives, how do they vote? Do they do what they say they are going to do? Do they vote for and implement moral initiatives? On all these points and including God in his campaign....Trump excelled.

If the democrats did that they would lose voters, and that proves that the democrat voters are just as bad as the democrat politicians. And they know that, that is why they removed the word God out of the Pledge of Allegiance at their DNC. And they did it in a way so that everyone understood that they had remove the word God from the Pledge of Allegiance. Proud to deny God!

The democrats use minorities as stepping stones for votes and their desire to see this country communist and atheist. And I do mean use, because they have been playing the minorities for fools for decades. The only ones that have seen real support are the druggies and perverts and criminals.....and the criminals find great satisfaction in being coddled by the democrats while they condemning law enforcement and setup the courts so they have nothing to fear if they get caught. You would be hard press to find a moral initiative in the democrat party because it is the last thing they are concerned about.

So the bottom line, my interest in politicians, is what they do in office.

I am a Democrat and everything that you wrote here is nothing but propaganda. You have swallowed Trump's poison hate pill that has seriously wounded the moral fiber of this great country. HATE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN VALUE!

 

[Jim B]

Do they do what they say they are going to do? Do they vote for and implement moral initiatives? On all these points and including God in his campaign....Trump excelled.



Trump doing what he said he would do? lol....where is that Great Wall? Where are the Mexicans that were guaranteed to pay for it? Where is his “ Beautiful Health Plan? Where are those Tax Teturns That He promised to show after the election?I thought that Satan was supposed to be “ The Father Of Lies”....... it seems that Satan has some competition.....Please don’t tell me that “ all politicians lie”...... that isTrue , and every other human- being lies on occasion but this Orange Pinocchio lies as naturally as most folks breath....

Morality ? This Orange Hitler has the “ morality” of a Bastard Rat.....Unless you like to hang around, you and your wife, with guys who like to “grab P*****s” , ......This Goon was divorced three time and cheated on every one of his wives......he paid money to have sex with Porn Stars....He was not MAN ENOUGH to admit he lost the ELection that even his own appointed judges and Attorney General declared To be without corruption.......Trump lied and Five died....he has blood on his tiny hands and you Lemmings that are part of his “ Sap Brigade” call yourselves “ Christians” and could not care less about any of it.......when they tried to hang his “ Lickspittle” Vice President ( you know—- the guy with the fly on his head) Rump didn’t try to stop anything .....in fact he said that Pence “ deserved it” .....I am no fan of Biden just because I loathe a man who possesses a Black Heart....Biden is also an idiot, but he at least has a good heart and he at least does not have Blood on his hands....


Trump uses “ God” the same way he uses you .....He’s no more a “ Christian “ than Fidel Castro who also claimed to be one....He is as Lost as a man can get—- proof being that he is on record as saying, “ I never have to ask for forgiveness because I have never done anything to ask forgiveness for”.....if you thank that came from the lips Of a Born-Again Believer , you are as Deceived as He is.....

Trump is nothing but a Con- Man .....and such a transparent one .....if you did not see that clearly years ago, *YOU* are the one that got “ Conned”—— YOU are his “Mark”.....Congrats! I guess “ gullibility “ is similar to “ Stupidity” —— there just ain’t no cure....

GREAT POST! THANKS FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH ON THIS MATTER!

 

[Mantis]

Trumps was attitude was very un christian. Calling people names left and right. I was embarrassed for our country by him. It turned me off big time But he got my vote because of what he said he would do. He tried. That is more than most politicians do lol. I am surprised he even got a foot of wall built with all the hate coming at him. I am surprised he is still alive. I have never seen so much hate for a man in my life from the liberals. Party of hate is the taste it left in my mouth. So much so that I think politics just completely suck. I don't watch the news or anything. It is all so negative. People just hating each other. And it is even spilling out on to these boards.

 

[Jim B]

Trumps was attitude was very un christian. Calling people names left and right. I was embarrassed for our country by him. It turned me off big time But he got my vote because of what he said he would do. He tried. That is more than most politicians do lol. I am surprised he even got a foot of wall built with all the hate coming at him. I am surprised he is still alive. I have never seen so much hate for a man in my life from the liberals. Party of hate is the taste it left in my mouth. So much so that I think politics just completely suck. I don't watch the news or anything. It is all so negative. People just hating each other. And it is even spilling out on to these boards.

Trump was the one who lit the fire of hatred in this country. He is a hate-filled liar who has destroyed the moral backbone of this country. I am 78 years old and have never, ever seen such hatred and violence in the people of this country.

 

[Grailhunter]

Trumps was attitude was very un christian. Calling people names left and right. I was embarrassed for our country by him. It turned me off big time But he got my vote because of what he said he would do. He tried. That is more than most politicians do lol. I am surprised he even got a foot of wall built with all the hate coming at him. I am surprised he is still alive. I have never seen so much hate for a man in my life from the liberals. Party of hate is the taste it left in my mouth. So much so that I think politics just completely suck. I don't watch the news or anything. It is all so negative. People just hating each other. And it is even spilling out on to these boards.

Evil despises truth.
The demonrats called it hate when he told the truth.

 

[Mantis]

Trump was the one who lit the fire of hatred in this country. He is a hate-filled liar who has destroyed the moral backbone of this country. I am 78 years old and have never, ever seen such hatred and violence in the people of this country.

You can blame him I guess. I am not defending him but I am not blaming him either. He is none the worse of any of the politicians. In a way he is much better because he actually tried to do what he said he would do. Most politicians don't even try to do what they ran on. The left hated that he tried to do what he said he would.

I don't hate him. I don't hate anyone. But I really don't want him to run again because of all of this division. But if it was between him and a liberal democrat he would get my vote. This January 6th event was nothing compared to what BLM/Antifa did to this country. Screw these little mask wearing black clad ninja wannabes burning everything down because they lost a vote. Pathetic.

 

[Grailhunter]

Charles Schomer's response to the challenge of Roe vs Wade. The desire to see babies murdered at a rate of 600,000 a year....just in the United States is the single most important thing to him.....the demonrat speaks his true heart. You have released the whirlwind! He cries....The demons are coming to get you!

 

[Grailhunter]

There is no doubt that democrats are the ones that support the murdering of babies. The democrat politicians gnash there teeth at the thought of losing their right to horribly murder babies! They will be gnashing their teeth alright when they are screaming in hell! As a Christian democrat how are you going to explain your support of this to Christ on Judgment Day?

This is a video

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/congress-abortion-democrats-republicans

 

[Grailhunter]

House democrats fight back for their bloodthirsty lust to kill babies
This is a video.

News Wrap: House Democrats approve two bills to restore abortion rights

 

[Enoch111]

House democrats fight back for their bloodthirsty lust to kill babies

While the treasonous RINOs sit back and do absolutely nothing.

 

[Grailhunter]

I am still working on the democrat initiative to lower the age of consent so they can have sex with children and kill their babies and also to allow young women to choose on their own to have abortions, without parental consent.
The am confident that this proof will show up soon because I am sure they are anxious to get a hold of the kids.

But here Republicans are trying to protect children from sex crimes and the democrats are fighting them on it

This is a video

News Wrap: House Democrats approve two bills to restore abortion rights

 

[Grailhunter]

California Democrat Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday signed a law that would give judges a say on whether to list someone as a sex offender for having oral or anal sex with a minor.

The bill would expand the discretion currently granted judges in statutory rape cases and was promoted as bringing fairness under the law to LGBTQ defendants.

San Diego Assembly woman who said, ‘give me a situation where a 24-year-old had sex with a 14-year-old, any kind of sex, and it wasn’t predatory. Any example and I have yet to see it.

Democrat San Diego Mayoral candidate Todd Gloria votes in favor of bill to lower penalties for sex with minors

The evidence is beginning to pile up on the democrat initiative to have sex with children. We are getting to the point that the democrats are offering up our children to homosexuals. Obama's unisex bathrooms in the schools was the first step.