Should Christians Celebrate Christmas?
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Selene
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Is this really all you can say? :) Actually, you are speaking to a daughter of God. And you still did not answer my question.
if it all that went to your eyes - I think that conversation is a waste of time.
What question?
From experience I know that on each of my answer, the questions will be to multiply ... each time more and more ridiculous.
Selene
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The question I asked is "Do you believe that Christ was lying when He stated "This is my body" and "This is my blood" when He presented the bread and wine? That is just a "yes" or "no" question.
No, He wasn't "lying" when He said this, but He was speaking figuratively. Wine and bread were the staples of their diet it those days. What Jesus meant is that when His people got together for fellowship, and ate their bread and drank their wine as they typically did, they should always reflect on the sacrifice of His body and and blood which He was about to offer for the forgiveness of sins. It's not a ritual re-sacrificing of Jesus and literally eating Him and drinking His blood over and over again, but a retrospect of the sacrifice He has already made on our behalf. He is not the God of religious rituals, but of changed hearts. He wants those who have made Him their Lord to reminisce on what was the true cost of our unrighteousness.
The "Mass" is a religious ritual that essentially claims that we can do whatever we want, and keep sacrificing Jesus over and over again to absolve ourselves from any responsibility for our actions. That is NOT the gospel Jesus was preaching. He came to change our hearts from our sinfull ways, and not to give us a license to practice sin with impunity by engaging in religious rituals. If your faith is in these rituals, you clearly don't know Him.
SealedEternal
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
So you get to decide what is figurative and what isn't? Hilarious! The one time you guys decide that the Bible isn't literal is the most important.....something sinister is going on
No, God decides what is literal or figurative. Jesus specifically said that as often as His people drank wine and ate bread together, they should remember His body and blood that He offered to us. He never said "go on sinning and perform a religious ritual sacrificing me over and over with bread and wine and you'll be able to live in sin with impunity. It is those who claim this heresy that are twisting His words to justify their own licentiousness. The Bible literally says that those who practice unrightousness cannot inherit His Kingdom. Religious rituals don't change that.
SealedEternal
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Yeah, if the Catholic Church taught that I would be concerned! I thought you were upset about the sacrament of the Eucharist - what a relief!
Selene
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No, that is not what Jesus said. At that time, Jesus was actually having the Passover supper with His Apostles. At that supper, Jesus said to "do this in memory of Him." "To do" what? He was referring to the last supper. He was not saying to remember. He was saying "TO DO" something in memory of Him....and that is the last supper (in other words, the Mass).
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