Your argument that they are not "Abraham's promised children" because they are not yet Christians is bogus. You obviously do not believe in predestination. I do. I believe what God promised Abraham *before it was fulfilled* must come to pass!
I didn't say it. Jesus said it. Paul the apostle said it. The New Testament writers said. Your conflict is with them not with Amillennialists. You cannot even address the scriptural passages that I present, because they expose your claims.
The first time we encounter the whole tension between the natural children of Abraham and true spiritual children of Abraham in the New Testament comes in Matthew 3. There, John the Baptist is approached by the religious Pharisees and Sadducees, looking to be baptized. As usual, the religious Jews came flaunting their racial and religious credentials.
Matthew 3:7–11 records:
“when he (John)
saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.”
John the Baptist came on the scene after Israel had been in gross apostasy for many hundreds of years. Apostate Israel had become smug in their illustrious heritage and had put their trust in their racial status rather than God. This created a superiority spirit. The prophet of God was not ignorant of the arrogant mindset and destructive influence of the Jewish leaders of his day. John came with a strong message of rebuke to these religious pretenders – instructing them to turn from their wicked ways and turn back to God. In doing so, he immediately and directly challenged their ethnic and pious pride, showing them that favor with God only came through an intimate personal relationship with Him.
In his rebuke, John identified who and what constituted a true descendent of Abraham. He declared: “begin not to say within yourselves, we have Abraham to our father.” Such was the demise of this formerly blessed people that he warned the religious leaders against claiming Abraham as their father – meaning, they were not automatically true sons of Abraham through natural birth. He explained that natural heritage means absolutely nothing to God. This would have strongly cut across these religious protagonists who wore their ethnic Abrahamic badge with particular pride and put their confidence in it for favor with God. This same affliction impairs them to this day.
Jesus similarly admonished these same religious imposters in Luke 13:3:
“except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
Repentance is the constant theme of Scripture and the heart-beat of Gospel preaching when dealing with the unsaved. The fact that God’s messengers in the New Testament were constantly urging the religious Jews to repent shows us their impoverished spiritual state. Basically: they knew God in their head, but, alas, not in their heart. That is why Jesus said of these religious hypocrites in Matthew 15:8:
“This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.”
They had religion, but no real relationship. They had a head-knowledge but no heart knowledge. They were all outward but no inward. They professed but did not possess.
Our Savior is also seen challenging the Jewish leaders of His day, in John 8:32, saying, “ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
To which they responded,
“We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?” (v 33).
Jesus replied,
“I know that ye are Abraham's seed (obviously speaking naturally);
but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father” (vv 37-38).
The Jews then boasted,
“Abraham is our father” (v39).
Christ responds to this misguided boast of these hypocrites, saying,
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant [or slave] of sin. And the servant [or slave] abideth not in the house for ever: but the son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father” (John 8:34-38).
There is such a battle going on here between the natural and the spiritual. The unbelieving religious Jews are pushing their genetic pedigree here as proof of their connection to Abraham, whereas Christ is trying to show them a spiritual truth – showing them that Israel’s inheritance is not secured by native heritage but rather by spiritual means What Jesus was basically saying is: ‘you might be a physical descendent of Abraham and yet not qualify to be a son or a child of God. What then would your ethnic DNA matter?’ He is showing them that faith matters!
Christ responded to the ignorance of the Jewish leaders:
“If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it” (vv 39-44).
Our Savior hits these religious imposters clean between the eyes with marksman’s accuracy and sobering truth. Firstly, He informed them that they had no right to consider themselves as “Abraham's children.” He advanced: “If ye were Abraham's children” speaking in a spiritual sense, and “If God were your Father” also speaking spiritually, “ye would love me.” What He was telling them was: if you truly were Abraham’s children then your life and conduct would be like him and his. He was telling them that behavior reveals identity. He goes even further, He informs them that the evidence of them being true children of Abraham is demonstrated by them loving Him. This is the litmus test of who is a true child of Abraham and what it is to be part of God’s chosen people.
Secondly, He identifies their true father as Satan. This would have been explosive and offensive to these proud religiously Jewish leaders. Jesus demonstrated that favor with Him didn’t come through natural pedigree but rather spiritual pedigree. Those Jews who rejected God’s offer of salvation were not under blessing but under a curse. They were not in any way considered as God’s chosen people. They were children of the devil and they were heading to hell.
I've already proven what theocracies are and that God promised them to Abraham. He promised Abraham *nations of faith,* which are what theocracies are. Israel was the initial model of this, and it was in fact a theocracy. Christian nations, whose laws reflect the laws of Christ, are in fact theocracies. You may disagree because you have your own chosen definition of "theocracy," but this is how I'm defining it, and it is legitimate.
No, you have not. Quite the opposite! The only thing you have proved is the absurdity of your claims. You are unable to identify one single Christian nation today. Your definition of Christian and the rest of ours are completely different. God's Word only recognizes as one type of Christian – a born-again Christian. All the rest are imposters.