The Good Shepherd and His Sheep

[Pearl]

Acts 20:28
“Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

The Good Shepherd and His Sheep
John 10 1 “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.”

Do those who call themselves Jehovah’s Witnesses hear the voice of the Good Shepherd? Do they follow Him? or do they only hear and follow the voice of a ‘stranger’ called Charles Taze Russell.?

 

[Matthias]

Acts 20:28
“Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

The Good Shepherd and His Sheep
John 10 1 “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.”

Do those who call themselves Jehovah’s Witnesses hear the voice of the Good Shepherd? Do they follow Him? or do they only hear and follow the voice of a ‘stranger’ called Charles Taze Russell.?

After all of the things you’ve said to JW’s and about JW’s, why are you asking?

 

[Randy Kluth]

The answer is self-explanatory. If someone is following a Christian Cult leader, he is not following Jesus properly. He or she is not following the true Shepherd of the sheep.

JWs have a different "Jesus." They define him differently, and the spirit is different. They do not believe Jesus is divine, which is essential if his atonement is to be of any value for our Salvation.

 

[Matthias]

The answer is self-explanatory.

Are you certain that it is to the OP?

If it is, what does that say about her motive?

If someone is following a Christian Cult leader, he is not following Jesus properly. He or she is not following the true Shepherd of the sheep.

 

[Pearl]

The answer is self-explanatory. If someone is following a Christian Cult leader, he is not following Jesus properly. He or she is not following the true Shepherd of the sheep.

JWs have a different "Jesus." They define him differently, and the spirit is different. They do not believe Jesus is divine, which is essential if his atonement is to be of any value for our Salvation.

Thank you for your reply, I do know that but I don't think the JWs do. I wanted to see what they thought of that passage.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Thank you for your reply, I do know that but I don't think the JWs do. I wanted to see what they thought of that passage.

I understand and appreciate the fact you reach out to them.

In my experience with the "Christian cults," I've found they don't know the Scriptures very well, except in a very robotic, trained way. Maybe they've learned how to respond to certain challenges with a very few memorized verses, and have to defer to some "superior" to answer tough questions.

If you can get any individual alone, without his "backup," you might have a fighting chance! :)

 

[Pearl]

I understand and appreciate the fact you reach out to them.

In my experience with the "Christian cults," I've found they don't know the Scriptures very well, except in a very robotic, trained way. Maybe they've learned how to respond to certain challenges with a very few memorized verses, and have to defer to some "superior" to answer tough questions.

If you can get any individual alone, without his "backup," you might have a fighting chance! :)

A few years ago a young couple used to come and talk to me and I got to like them and they were open to accepting the materials I gave them; about the Holy Spirit and my written testimony. The young man, James, must have shown the material I had given him to the 'elders' because after a few weeks he turned up without his wife but with an 'elder' who was not very nice and just wanted an argument. My husband told him to go away because he had a spirit of religion. I was sad not to James again as I felt he had been opening up to the things I was telling him. I still pray for him. Before he left I told him he was dead behind his eyes and he gave me a big hug and a kiss on the cheek even with his elder present.

They become slaves to the Watchtower organisation and as in all forms of slavery it is difficult to escape.

 

[Randy Kluth]

A few years ago a young couple used to come and talk to me and I got to like them and they were open to accepting the materials I gave them; about the Holy Spirit and my written testimony. The young man, James, must have shown the material I had given him to the 'elders' because after a few weeks he turned up without his wife but with an 'elder' who was not very nice and just wanted an argument. My husband told him to go away because he had a spirit of religion. I was sad not to James again as I felt he had been opening up to the things I was telling him. I still pray for him. Before he left I told him he was dead behind his eyes and he gave me a big hug and a kiss on the cheek even with his elder present.

They become slaves to the Watchtower organisation and as in all forms of slavery it is difficult to escape.

Yes, Pearl, for a very short time I also was in a Christian cult, and there is a strong, but false spirit that condemns you if you want to leave the cult. It appears as Jesus who is angry for you departing from "his revelation." You have to believe that reaching out to someone as you did, in sincerity and love, will have a long-term effect on the person. After all, that's all that God asks from us, to leave our testimony. The Holy Spirit and others can complete the task.