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robert derrick

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Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

The doers of the word are right.
 

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I carefully added the words “appears to.” But honestly, it does oppose. Until you get the rounded view and understand both sides together. The many arguments show this is so.
If you give me an example, perhaps I can show you why it doesn't.
 

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If you give me an example, perhaps I can show you why it doesn't.
Never answer a fool according to his folly
Always answer a fool according to His folly

No man has seen God at any time - no man may see God and live.
I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
 
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L.A.M.B.

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Never answer a fool according to his folly
Always answer a fool according to His folly

No man has seen God at any time - no man may see God and live.
I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.


Can you clarify that first part of your post about a fool stunned?
 
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L.A.M.B.

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4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Yes I know the scripture but is it not contradictory ?
Can you explain this ? I myself have never understood it.
 
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4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
This is probably the better translation, since I don't see "Always" and "Never" in the Hebrew. "Always" and "never" were probably added to improve the Proverbs stylistically.

I just consider this one a matter of having the wisdom to know when to apply verse 4 or verse 5, depending on the situation.

I'm more interested in contradictions like Luke reporting that Judas died in a fall, while Matthew reports that he hanged himself. I still think Simon the Zealot slit his throat in a Jerusalem back alley. The Zealots knew how to handle traitors!
 
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stunnedbygrace

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Yes I know the scripture but is it not contradictory ?
Can you explain this ? I myself have never understood it.
Yes, it is contradictory, which was my point.
The gentleman didn’t agree with me that scripture could appear to be contradictory or that it actually IS contradictory until we understand the verses together.

When you understand it together, instead of just the one part, you go from a pancake not turned to a pancake turned and ready to eat.
 
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L.A.M.B.

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Yes, it is contradictory, which was my point.
The gentleman didn’t agree with me that scripture could appear to be contradictory or that it actually IS contradictory until we understand the verses together.

When you understand it together, instead of just the one part, you go from a pancake not turned to a pancake turned and ready to eat.
Nice duck.
Lol
 
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L.A.M.B.

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The Word says that the FOOL hath said in his heart there is no God.
Atheists? Nonbelievers ?
Yet Jesus said to call no man fool.

As I said I have never understood this verse, I guess I ain't alone !
 
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stunnedbygrace

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I'm more interested in contradictions like Luke reporting that Judas died in a fall, while Matthew reports that he hanged himself. I still think Simon the Zealot slit his throat in a Jerusalem back alley. The Zealots knew how to handle traitors!
I think he hung himself but then the tree branch broke and he fell headlong into the valley and when he hit the ground his body split open and his intestines came out.
 
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stunnedbygrace

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Nice duck.
Lol
Have you seen men in here answer a fool in the same foolish way they are speaking? Of course you have. It devolves into flesh fueled madness.
And have you seen a man in here answer a fool but not answer in the same foolish manner that they are speaking in?

If a mans flesh is stirred up by another mans flesh, and he answers, he becomes as foolish.

Thats what I’ve understood about it thus far.

Good morning by the way.
 
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L.A.M.B.

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I really really wish this was all over.
I'd like to fellowship with many here but I guess it will have to wait...................
 

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Good answer sister. And good morning to you as well.
I heard a man speak further on it the other day but I won’t be able to do it justice…but it had to do with where all the potters worked, like…the potters district, which he said was at the top of the valley and if a vessel came out too marred to use, they threw it out, down into the valley and it smashed to pieces.
 
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