The Simple Truth Of Our Faith; GOD Made Us, We Messed Things Up, JESUS Paid For Our Mess And All We

[Robert Gwin]

Can you refute in in scripture sir?

Since it is not in the Bible maam, it is basically a mute point. I knew you would not be able to, that is why I asked. Jesus resides in heaven is the actual truth, none of us have a "personal" relationship with him at this time, perhaps in the future. However, that is not to say that none of us have dedicated our lives to following him, all of his disciples have. Having a personal relationship is a term that some apply to those who are Christ's disciples, and they mean it as being understood, not literal.

 

[Pearl]

John 1:12
Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—

To be a child of a human father is a very personal relationship. And so to be a child of the Heavenly Father is also a very personal relationship; a relationship we can't into until we are born again. And then with Jesus as our brother we can have a personal relationship with him.

 

[Kermos]

"God chooses some for hell", and the "elect" is everyone else".

God is the Creator of all creation (Genesis 1-3, John 1:3, Acts 4:24).

Free-willian philosophy acknowledges this fact that God created everything including every person in all time.

This means that God created people knowing that some persons are going to hell according to free-willian philosophy.

Unless you acknowledge this fact that God creates all people, then you have a different gospel (Galatians 1:8).

 

[Behold]

Unless you acknowledge this fact that God creates all people, then you have a different gospel (Galatians 1:8).

The Heretic John Calvin is the father of a lot of theological darkness that has deceived BILLIONS of people.
He teaches that God chooses some for hell, and chooses some for heaven.
This is a lie.

What God CHOSE, is to offer JESUS to "all who will believe".
Everyone is offered the CROSS, but not everyone will BELIEVE in Jesus on it.
YOU, ME< are accountable for our BELIEF or lack of it, and God allows us the freewill to decide if we will believe, or not.

 

[Kermos]

The Heretic John Calvin is the father of a lot of theological darkness that has deceived BILLIONS of people.
He teaches that God chooses some for hell, and chooses some for heaven.
This is a lie.

What God CHOSE, is to offer JESUS to "all who will believe".
Everyone is offered the CROSS, but not everyone will BELIEVE in Jesus on it.
YOU, ME< are accountable for our BELIEF or lack of it, and God allows us the freewill to decide if we will believe, or not.

Who is this John Calvin whom you seem so obsessed about?

His name does not appear in the Holy Writ!

Why don't you show me a scripture that says God chooses some for hell instead of talking about some man named John Calvin.

The name Jesus Christ appears in the Holy Writ, so let's talk about His precious, enlivening, loving words!

Lord Jesus says "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16) and "I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation), AND HE SAYS THIS IN RELATION TO HIS FRIENDS (JOHN 15:15).

Now, @Behold, can you focus on that which you brought up yourself?

"God chooses some for hell", and the "elect" is everyone else".

God is the Creator of all creation (Genesis 1-3, John 1:3, Acts 4:24).

Free-willian philosophy acknowledges this fact that God created everything including every person in all time.

This means that God created people knowing that some persons are going to hell according to free-willian philosophy.

Unless you acknowledge this fact that God creates all people, then you have a different gospel (Galatians 1:8).

 

[Behold]

Who is this John Calvin whom you seem so obsessed about?

Im obsessed with Jesus.

And regarding J. Calvin................. you must be new to theology and Christianity...???????


= He is a Theological scourge, who infected both the "cult of Mary" (Catholic) and Protestantism with his crazy "TULIP" theology.

Among other heresies, He teaches "pre-destined elect' theology that twists a few of Paul's verses into....."God causes some to go to Hell":

JCalvin teaches that God causes all the evil, and the devil has nothing to do with it...

He also teaches that you have no choice regarding being born again.......as God will force you , or He wont allow you.

JC teaches that you have NO FREE Will. You are just a Robot Puppet, choice-less, being caused to do everything you will ever do or ever think.

How does that work?

Well, according to John Calvin.... the reason you are reading what im writing, teaching, is because you are destined by God to read it...so you must.
And also how many times you go to the bathroom today.....>"its all pre-destined" by God, according to the NUT-BAR..= John CalvinAnd that goes for the food you will eat later today also....as God destined that for you also.....so, Bon Appetit...

This crazy dead man has so much influence over the minds of his deceived that they will want you to know = "im a Calvinist".
There are forums created just for these deceived people., and many on this forum believe much of what this insanely religious person taught.

 

[Kermos]

Im obsessed with Jesus.

And regarding J. Calvin................. you must be new to theology and Christianity...???????


= He is a Theological scourge, who infected both the "cult of Mary" (Catholic) and Protestantism with his crazy "TULIP" theology.

Among other heresies, He teaches "pre-destined elect' theology that twists a few of Paul's verses into....."God causes some to go to Hell":

JCalvin teaches that God causes all the evil, and the devil has nothing to do with it...

He also teaches that you have no choice regarding being born again.......as God will force you , or He wont allow you.

JC teaches that you have NO FREE Will. You are just a Robot Puppet, choice-less, being caused to do everything you will ever do or ever think.

How does that work?

Well, according to John Calvin.... the reason you are reading what im writing, teaching, is because you are destined by God to read it...so you must.
And also how many times you go to the bathroom today.....>"its all pre-destined" by God, according to the NUT-BAR..= John CalvinAnd that goes for the food you will eat later today also....as God destined that for you also.....so, Bon Appetit...

This crazy dead man has so much influence over the minds of his deceived that they will want you to know = "im a Calvinist".
There are forums created just for these deceived people., and many on this forum believe much of what this insanely religious person taught.

As I wrote previously, you seem quite obsessed with John Calvin, just look at your post that goes on and on about John Calvin.

The name John Calvin does not appear in the Holy Writ!

Why don't you show me a scripture that says God chooses some for hell instead of talking about some man named John Calvin.

The name Jesus Christ appears in the Holy Writ, so let's talk about His precious, enlivening, loving words!

Lord Jesus says "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16) and "I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation), AND HE SAYS THIS IN RELATION TO CALLING US HIS DISCIPLES HIS FRIENDS (JOHN 15:15).

@Behold

@Behold

@Behold, can you focus on that which you brought up yourself?

"God chooses some for hell", and the "elect" is everyone else".

God is the Creator of all creation (Genesis 1-3, John 1:3, Acts 4:24).

Free-willian philosophy acknowledges this fact that God created everything including every person in all time.

This means that God created people knowing that some persons are going to hell according to free-willian philosophy.

Unless you acknowledge this fact that God creates all people, then you have a different gospel (Galatians 1:8).

 

[Behold]

As I wrote previously, you seem quite obsessed with John Calvin,

As i stated previously.
Im "Obsessed with Jesus".
Specifically : The Cross of Christ., which is why i Thread and post so much about it..

Just like this, Kermos..

Read carefully... very carefully.
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New International Version
For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

New Living Translation
For I decided that while I was with you I would forget everything except Jesus Christ, the one who was crucified.

English Standard Version
For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

Berean Standard Bible
For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

Berean Literal Bible
For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him having been crucified.

King James Bible
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

New King James Version
For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

New American Standard Bible
For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

NASB 1995
For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

 

[Kermos]

As i stated previously.
Im "Obsessed with Jesus".
Specifically : The Cross of Christ., which is why i Thread and post so much about it..

Just like this, Kermos..

Read carefully... very carefully.
-
New International Version
For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

New Living Translation
For I decided that while I was with you I would forget everything except Jesus Christ, the one who was crucified.

English Standard Version
For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

Berean Standard Bible
For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

Berean Literal Bible
For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him having been crucified.

King James Bible
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

New King James Version
For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

New American Standard Bible
For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

NASB 1995
For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

Lord Jesus says "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16) and "I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation), AND HE SAYS THIS IN RELATION TO CALLING US HIS DISCIPLES HIS FRIENDS (JOHN 15:15), AND HE DOES THE CHOOSING, NOT MAN CHOOSING JESUS, BUT TRULY JESUS CHRIST CHOOSING US CHRISTIANS UNTO SALVATION!

@Behold

@Behold

@Behold, can you focus on that which you brought up yourself?

"God chooses some for hell", and the "elect" is everyone else".

God is the Creator of all creation (Genesis 1-3, John 1:3, Acts 4:24).

Free-willian philosophy acknowledges this fact that God created everything including every person in all time.

This means that God created people knowing that some persons are going to hell according to free-willian philosophy.

Unless you acknowledge this fact that God creates all people, then you have a different gospel (Galatians 1:8).

 

[Behold]

Lord Jesus says "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16) and "I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation), AND HE SAYS THIS IN RELATION TO CALLING US HIS DISCIPLES HIS FRIENDS (JOHN 15:15), AND HE DOES THE CHOOSING, NOT MAN CHOOSING JESUS, BUT TRULY JESUS CHRIST CHOOSING US CHRISTIANS UNTO SALVATION!

Yes.

And Christ the Lord is talking to the APOSTLE'S, in your verses, as they were chosen to be the original builders of His Body.
Later, when Christ was back in Heaven, having ascended, He CHOSE PAUL.......... to be a "light to the gentiles" and the person responsible for delivering to the Body of Christ, the "Gospel of the Grace of God", and Doctrine for the Church.

Kermos......be sure you do what this verse tells you to do..

1 Corinthians 11:1

Start right now. <

 

[Kermos]

Yes.

And Christ the Lord is talking to the APOSTLE'S, in your verses, as they were chosen to be the original builders of His Body.
Later, when Christ was back in Heaven, having ascended, He CHOSE PAUL.......... to be a "light to the gentiles" and the person responsible for delivering to the Body of Christ, the "Gospel of the Grace of God", and Doctrine for the Church.

Kermos......be sure you do what this verse tells you to do..

1 Corinthians 11:1

Start right now. <

Behold, it sounds like you are casting yourself as not a friend of Jesus because Jesus establishes that He chooses His friends but His friends don't choose Him (John 15:15-16).

@Behold, as the second point, let's get back to the point about the Creator of all the Earth's inhabitants which you so unceremoniously dismiss by not even addressing that which you brought up yourself.

"God chooses some for hell", and the "elect" is everyone else".

God is the Creator of all creation (Genesis 1-3, John 1:3, Acts 4:24).

Free-willian philosophy acknowledges this fact that God created everything including every person in all time.

This means that God created people knowing that some persons are going to hell according to free-willian philosophy.

Unless you acknowledge this fact that God creates all people, then you have a different gospel (Galatians 1:8).