Genesis Retranslated

[JasonTheServent]

Bash this . Yall go burn to hell you evil people

 

[Jay Ross]

Here is how I have paraphrased Genesis 1 -5: -

1:1 In the beginning/First God created {the entities of} the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on/covering the face of the deep/abyss. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

3 Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that/the entity of the light and that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness, He called Night. So, the evening and the morning were the first day.

Hope this helps

 

[Jay Ross]

Hi Jay,
I've been researching everything and this translation I'm working on comes from the original Hebrew scriptures and what I've translated is what it actually says.

That is interesting. I have used this Interlinear to help me understand the Hebrew Text: -



When researching the first word with the embedded Hebrew Root H:7225, I noted that the context in which it is used is slightly different to the other four times it has been used in Jeremiah: -



If you consider the actual Hebrew word used in the five cases, its use in Genesis 1:1 is slightly difference to the other four cases for the Transliteral word, bə·rê·šîṯ. That was why I considered using the English word, "First," as this suggests that God existed before the start of the Creation account in Genesis.

As for the importance of using "Elohim" instead of "God" in your paraphrase of the Hebrew text, that was not as important to me as it apparently is for you.

Shalom

 

[jeffweeder]

sounds like you have totally rewritten Genesis in such a way that it contradicts the rest of the scriptures where God reveals himself.

 

[Enoch111]

Hi. I have been working on retranslating Genesis

Jason, give it up. Why would anyone trust your silly retranslation?

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Hi Jay,
I've been researching everything and this translation I'm working on comes from the original Hebrew scriptures and what I've translated is what it actually says. Elohim is called God in most translations but it really translates to, He the many Gods, and in some context just, many Gods. If you research Elohim you will find this out. The one who is speaking at the beginning of genesis is YHWH, not God. YHWH created Elohim. And it says it in the first verse and who She is that is spoken of in my translation so far, is the Spirit, Mother of all. You see it is very complex but modern translations say what they want to say and not entirely what it actually says. Everybody asks the same question, Who created God? the answer for you is, YHWH or how they retranslated YHWH to YAHWEH because they knew not how to pronounce it. So I'll help you pronounce it. Breathe in, ( You just said YH ) now breathe out, (you just said WH). every time you breathe in and out you have to say YHWH. You see YH and WH are breathing sounds. Everybody speaks YHWH's name. If you don't believe me breathe in and think YH and breathe out while thinking WH. OR breathe loudly and listen closely. And tell me what you hear yourself saying.

Stop. You are obviously not qualified to translate the Holy Scriptures. You can't even get the first sentence right. And by the way, this concept of "breathing God's name" is not new. Rabbis and pastors have presented this before you were born. I am not validating it, just saying it's been out there.
Thousands of experts, Phds in their fields of theology, history, languages, hermeneutics, etc., have already produced some sixty English translations of the Bible that you can access online. The Biblegateway.com is one site. These scholars get together in groups to take on this extremely detailed and holy task that usually takes many years to complete. Spare yourself and the rest of us.

 

[Jay Ross]

Wow, so the Holy Spirit does not give the gift of understanding with respect to paraphrasing the English Language versions of the source Hebrew or Greek texts from which our present translations were generated, to suggest that the pious illiterates on the various committees charged with the translating of the source text into English got the context wrong in many instances through the translations.

From my research of the English translations, the contextual understanding of what Has been written in either Hebrew or Greek is lost in the translation into English in that the translation context bares little resemblance to what was intended in the source documents.

 

[Cassandra]

I think he was referring to to the OP, not your post.

The OP is IMO really choppy and hard to follow. It looks like in one part, that light has a personality, and the next part light is a "He". then "she'. Also why are ruach and Elohim brooding over the waters? And not were brooding, it says they was brooding.Sounds like poor English.

Hi. I have been working on retranslating Genesis and I am still working on it but here is what I have? Feel free to ask questions or leave comments.

Genesis 1:1-5
1 In her beginning I created, Elohim, by them, I made him the heavens and for her the lands. 2 And Her lands was, Become, Formless, and Empty; and Darkness was on the faces of Abyss. Ruah and Elohim was brooding over the faces of the Waters. 3 And I said to Elohim, I shall become Light: and I became Light. 4 And I saw Elohim and He the Light, agree that She was good: and I divided Elohim between He the Light and He the Darkness. 5 And I Called Elohim, not the light, day, and not Darkness and I called not Night, (to be continued)

To the OP: I'd love to know who you intend the audience to be. Are you trying to push people away from reading Genesis?

As for the "he and she' are you calling the word"good" a she because it is a feminine adjective "He the light",She was good."? In Latin lux or lucis (fem) is light, it doesn't mean to translate light as a he or she. It is grammatical gender, not a natural one

I have to ask, and I'm not trying to be a brat, but what is your background? Hey, I'm all for practicing translation,we do it weekly in class but I am wrong alot.

Also, you say YHVH created Elohim? Who is Elohim? And where in Genesis 1, does it say that? Created Elohim, by them? Who is them?
How did YHVH divide Elohim?

 

[Jim B]

What exactly is "retranslation"? Translating a translation? It makes no sense.

 

[Cassandra]

What is your background?

 

[JasonTheServent]

I think he was referring to to the OP, not your post.

The OP is IMO really choppy and hard to follow. It looks like in one part, that light has a personality, and the next part light is a "He". then "she'. Also why are ruach and Elohim brooding over the waters? And not were brooding, it says they was brooding.Sounds like poor English.



To the OP: I'd love to know who you intend the audience to be. Are you trying to push people away from reading Genesis?

As for the "he and she' are you calling the word"good" a she because it is a femininead "He the light",She was good."? In Latin lux or lucis is light, it doesn't mean to translate light as a he or she. It is grammatical gender, not a natural one

I have to ask, and I'm not trying to be a brat, but what is your background? Hey, I'm all for practicing translation,we do it weekly in class but I am wrong alot.

Also, you say YHVH created Elohim? Who is Elohim? And where in Genesis 1, does it say that? Created Elohim, by them? Who is them?
How did YHVH divide Elohim?

Her that is spoken of is The Spirit RUAH and when IAM saw Elohim and the light agree tht she (The Spirit) was good. You just don't understand Hebrew and what it really says. And btw before you bash me maybe you should do your own researerch casue if you dont like the translation I have already, just shows you have no research to back up your silly statment. its funny how you bashed me but had no argument for your reasoning to insult me.

 

[JasonTheServent]

Stop. You are obviously not qualified to translate the Holy Scriptures. You can't even get the first sentence right. And by the way, this concept of "breathing God's name" is not new. Rabbis and pastors have presented this before you were born. I am not validating it or not, just saying it's been out there.
Thousands of experts, Phds in their fields of theology, history, languages, hermeneutics, etc., have already produced some sixty English translations of the Bible that you can access online. The Biblegateway.com is one site. These scholars get together in groups to take on this extremely detailed and holy task that usually takes many years to complete. Spare yourself and the rest of us.

I posted the wrong thing. please give it another read i changed it to my actual work and not my play work. and then criticize me if you feel the need to

 

[JasonTheServent]

sounds like you have totally rewritten Genesis in such a way that it contradicts the rest of the scriptures where God reveals himself.

how so

 

[GRACE ambassador]

One thing is Certain: "biting and devouring one another" does NOT come
from my LORD And Saviour, Jesus Christ! However:

Grace, Peace, And JOY DOES Come From Him!! Amen.

 

[Jim B]

You say I'm not qualified but you do know not my credentials. Obviously you are not educated enough to research all these hebrew words and their characters or you would find out my tranlsation is more accurate then all these different tranlstions that coppurt men decided what you be take out and what to change was to where they take names out of the bible changes scriptures. I bet you think Jesus is His name but it's not His name is Ihesus. before you bash someone do your own research and you can just have another glass of kool-aid.

You remind me of the line from"12 Angry Men": "he don't even speak good English."

a) I trust the scholars who have given us the wonderful English translations, not you.

b) "You say I'm not qualified but you do know not my credentials" is poor English.
c) "Obviously you are not educated enough to research all these hebrew [not capitalized] words and their characters or you would find out my tranlsation [misspelled] is more accurate then all these different tranlstions [misspelled] that coppurt [misspelled] men decided what you be take out [meaningless] and what to change was to where they take names out of the bible changes scriptures [poor grammar]". Six errors in one run-on sentence! And your next two sentences also contain errors.

If you can't even write English correctly I can only imagine how many errors there are in your "translation".

 

[Jim B]

your an idoit dude. you're so busy believing what man tells you it says instead of finding out for yourself. If you knew the history of the bible , you would find out that manys words have been changed and many woods taken out and many names compiled into one singular name which thereby makes your bible a liar.. Buddy before you seat on God's seat and judge me for putting back what man took away. You say i'm not qualified but you don't know me. if i was to guess what your qualilifed for is saying lies and sawing discord about my own translation that is more accurate then your bible. God bless and if you want to remain ignorant keep it to yourself.

There are also numerous misspellings and grammatical errors in this post, but I'll leave it to you to find them.

 

[JasonTheServent]

You remind me of the line from"12 Angry Men": "he don't even speak good English."

a) I trust the scholars who have given us the wonderful English translations, not you.

b) "You say I'm not qualified but you do know not my credentials" is poor English.
c) "Obviously you are not educated enough to research all these hebrew [not capitalized] words and their characters or you would find out my tranlsation [misspelled] is more accurate then all these different tranlstions [misspelled] that coppurt [misspelled] men decided what you be take out [meaningless] and what to change was to where they take names out of the bible changes scriptures [poor grammar]". Six errors in one run-on sentence! And your next two sentences also contain errors.

If you can't even write English correctly I can only imagine how many errors there are in your "translation".

wow im on a forum just busting out real quick what i say and you judge my grammar but nothing esle. I thought Jesus said not to judge. and i dont want to be Grammarly correct to save time. And believe what yall want stay ignonart. you all are closed minded brainwashed by the deception man has placed in the scriptures.

 

[Cassandra]

Her that is spoken of is The Spirit RUAH and when IAM saw Elohim and the light agree tht she (The Spirit) was good. You just don't understand Hebrew and what it really says. And btw before you bash me maybe you should do your own researerch casue if you dont like the translation I have already, just shows you have no research to back up your silly statment. its funny how you bashed me but had no argument for your reasoning to insult me.

I didn't bash you. I have questions. and I asked you if you were aware of grammatical genders. I also was asking where it saysYHVH created Elohim? Do you have a background in linguistics or Hebrew?

 

[Cassandra]

I purposely made the grammar mistakes to see if this was a true Christian forum but the devil lurks here in the heart of your closed mind and insults. I found out what kind of people are on this Thread. and it's not Christians that follow christ or you would accept a truth instead of attacking me or even giving it a thought. I came to this forum believing there were educated men not in grammar, but in Hebrew and the scriptures. If I wasn't a believer yall would chase me away from God because of your evil hearts.

How does making grammar mistakes on purpose check if this was a Christian forum? How is asking you speaking evil of you?
Christians don't ask questions? We are just supposed to accept what you say? We are told to prove all things

 

[RLT63]

You say I'm not qualified but you do know not my credentials. Obviously you are not educated enough to research all these hebrew words and their characters or you would find out my tranlsation is more accurate then all these different tranlstions that coppurt men decided what you be take out and what to change was to where they take names out of the bible changes scriptures. I bet you think Jesus is His name but it's not His name is Ihesus. before you bash someone do your own research and you can just have another glass of kool-aid.

You can’t even write English correctly judging by your post