Stop Warring against each other's interpretation of scripture!

[Wrangler]

crossing that threshold where you keep things private and out of public view, is where you form new friendships

Agreed! The lost art of discretion. Not only forming new friendships but energizing existing friendships.

Perhaps not coincidently, I took my granddaughter last week to the play Hamilton. A character repeatedly chastened Hamilton to "speak less and smile more."

The predominant philosophy of this world defends violating such discretion with "I was only being honest." My Bible Study leader was fond of saying upon happening on various passages that "the Bible continually reminds us not to go too far right or too far left." This is the meaning when it is said about who we are to model, that Jesus was full of grace and truth. Honesty is not the best policy when it unnecessarily hurts; specifically, when it unnecessarily hurts the relationship.

I used charisma to let the man who was a stranger to me but a brother in Christ know that we might have doctrinal differences. The statement was punctuated with an infectious smile. This somewhat stymied his doctrinal purity train and he really did not know how to respond. Had he asked specifics, I might have obliged him. However, this tactic allowed the subject to be breeched without turning argumentative and remaining a bit of a friendly mystery.

Also during this weekend, a friend of 35 years shared again details of his bad marriage and facts that I deem him failing in his role as spiritual leader of the union. I urged him again to guide his wife in this area she is having quite a bit of difficulty. In my opinion, she has good reason to feel abandoned, which understandably is a source of great pain for anyone.

Yet, I again go back to the idea that unless someone specifically asks you, they probably don't want to hear your opinion. There is a boundary that our "I was only being honest" philosophy violates, which makes it all the more a broken world of hurt people needing Christ.

 

[ShineTheLight]

So let's consider this....if the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of TRUTH and teaches us all things....and God is the one who increases that which is planted and watered....then why do argue with one another if they don't agree with your doctrine?
Is it your doctrine that we are to lay as our foundation or is it Christ....is it your doctrine that causes one to grow spiritually or is it God....is it your doctrine that leads to all truth or is it the Holy Spìrit????????

I know scripture teaches that we should not follow doctrines of men....so I suppose any doctrine differences are man made and should be avoided anyway...

It's not easy. Often times people can be misguided or have the wrong spirit in them. People say to test the spirits. They say that of others. Well, you have to test your owns too. Our creator said to know what spirit we are of. Whether if we be with the right spirit or not. We have to drive out the wrong ones. The bible also says we war not against flesh and blood, but against spirits that work wickedness and have power in darkness. Everyday we fight and live for the light, light that is in Christ Jesus and his spirit.

While I full agree that all Christians should be in one accord and of one mind, the sad fact is that Christian forums are in fact spiritual battlegrounds. Which means that there is spiritual warfare on all forums (not just here).​

Certain things get overlooked. The devil is clever. Satan knows the bible too. We followers of God can still do things that those who are lost in the world do. It's a lot of work and fight to be in righteousness and be humble.

 

[amadeus]

That is some very wise words there...thanks for sharing it
I think you are hitting the nail on the head about forum fellowship versus person to person. And I have been deceived by what I perceived to be a genuine concern and care about my more personal topics when all it ended up being is being used for favor and gain.

Remember Stranger? I don't know what happened with him but he was always rebuking me on my threads....nevertheless he struck me as very respectful and kind. I sent him a PM with some private and personal information to share with him. And after that he was like a big brother always checking up on me.

Sometimes crossing that threshold where you keep things private and out of public view, is where you form new friendships....the barriers come down because both of you realize just how normal and how much alike we all really are

I remember @Stranger very well. On a number of points, I strongly disagreed with him, but as I got to know him, I also understood him better as a man and was able understand some of his beliefs. He definitely knew the Bible well. Sometimes we even agreed on things. He helped me out when I was still active on "Talk Jesus".

 

[Philip James]

We followers of God can still do things that those who are lost in the world do. It's a lot of work and fight to be in righteousness and be humble.

Hello ShineTheLight,

Hit the nail on the head there!

Happy Feast of St. Fabian !

Pax et Bonum

 

[amadeus]

Hello ShineTheLight,

Hit the nail on the head there!

Happy Feast of St. Fabian !

Pax et Bonum

Hello, brother Philip. Good to see you here. Give God the glory!

 

[Philip James]

Give God the glory!

Always me friend, Always!

 

[ScottA]

Unfortunately this is that sword brought to us by Christ when we would have preferred peace.

These are the times of the spirit of God being poured out "upon all flesh"--not just upon the good, but rather as "He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust." This is the gathering and the dividing.

And here we are.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I could almost guarantee that if I was face to face with anyone on this forum that there would never be any anger, strife or division between us because the language of love and fruits of the Holy Spirit are powerful forms of communication and can cause any spirit of strife to hit the door running!

Part of communicating with others is our body language and facial expressions. So on a forum we lose those two very important aspects of communication.

I used to be easily offended when someone rebuked what I was sharing on a thread or post. Any type of resistance in my mind was evil and hostile....lol...sorry just being honest. One day I prayed and asked God to deliver me of a "spirit" of offense. I knew it wasn't natural to assume everyone was against me so I believe it had to be a spirit that had me bound up with being easily offended.

God answered my prayers and now I hardly am offended. In fact, there are times when I probably should have been but I wasn't. Lolol.

 

[amigo de christo]

Hi @Heart2Soul. I'm not much of the understanding of the prophecy of the bible. Never really followed it. But this should be an interesting thread. Maybe I'll learn something.

The SPIRIT of PROPHECY is the TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST .

 

[Heart2Soul]

It's not easy. Often times people can be misguided or have the wrong spirit in them. People say to test the spirits. They say that of others. Well, you have to test your owns too. Our creator said to know what spirit we are of. Whether if we be with the right spirit or not. We have to drive out the wrong ones. The bible also says we war not against flesh and blood, but against spirits that work wickedness and have power in darkness. Everyday we fight and live for the light, light that is in Christ Jesus and his spirit.



Certain things get overlooked. The devil is clever. Satan knows the bible too. We followers of God can still do things that those who are lost in the world do. It's a lot of work and fight to be in righteousness and be humble.

Yes, very true.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I remember @Stranger very well. On a number of points, I strongly disagreed with him, but as I got to know him, I also understood him better as a man and was able understand some of his beliefs. He definitely knew the Bible well. Sometimes we even agreed on things. He helped me out when I was still active on "Talk Jesus".

Well that's awesome! I never figured him to be willing to interact like that.

 

[quietthinker]

Stop Warring against each other's interpretation of scripture!​

hmmmm, stop warring hey!
I think what was started in heaven by Lucifer will inevitably continue till this age is done.....till it has run its full course.

'There was war in heaven' we are told (Rev.12:7).....an idealogical war I guess.....because I can't imagine it being fist y-cuffs. It appears his smooth tongue was quiet persuasive seeing a goodly number of angels sided with him.....probably billions.

I wonder about these things.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Now when someone comes along and says "Jesus is NOT God"

that is a message from Satan.

There’s no biblical justification for a statement like this.

The message from Satan is denying Jesus is the Christ:

“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1 John 2:22)

I have scriptural authority.

Where’s yours?

 

[Enoch111]

The message from Satan is denying Jesus is the Christ:

Deny that Jesus is God is exactly the same as denying that Jesus is the Christ. He could not be Christ unless He was first God. And both the Father and the Son are God.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Deny that Jesus is God is exactly the same as denying that Jesus is the Christ. He could not be Christ unless He was first God. And both the Father and the Son are God.

Let's not get a trinity debate going in this thread please.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Stop Warring against each other's interpretation of scripture!​

hmmmm, stop warring hey!
I think what was started in heaven by Lucifer will inevitably continue till this age is done.....till it has run its full course.

'There was war in heaven' we are told (Rev.12:7).....an idealogical war I guess.....because I can't imagine it being fist y-cuffs. It appears his smooth tongue was quiet persuasive seeing a goodly number of angels sided with him.....probably billions.

I wonder about these things.

Well for one, the war in heaven takes place as Satan and his army rises up against Jesus and his army..
Satan and a third of the angels were cast down from heaven most likely means the 3rd Heaven where God's throne is and where He sits and rules and which took place before man was created.
Satan and his followers dwell in the 2nd heaven and Satan continually goes before God accusing the brethren....Satan means the accuser....and you can find many scriptures about this. Job is a real good book to read and says it very plainly.

So when John saw the vision he wrote it down and recorded it in the book of Revelations...which is almost entirely written about future events.

 

[ElieG12]

Jesus never was ecumenical. He would never have sat down with the Pharisees and asked what they believed in order to come to an agreement with them. He knew the Truth and how those who defend it act.

His disciples never made peace with the false teachers. Using the Scriptures and the things they learned from Jesus Christ, they were not only CAPABLE, but also AUTHORIZED to expose those who tried to occupy a position as spiritual guides of the sheep that did not belong to them, without even stopping to check if things that they imagined were really teachings that came from the true anointed of God.

2 Cor. 11:12 Now what I am doing I will still do, that I may cut off the pretext from those who are wanting a pretext for being found equal to us in the office of which they boast. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works.

2 Cor. 6:14 Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? 15 Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer share in common with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I will reside among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” 17 “‘Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take you in.’” 18 “‘And I will become a father to you, and you will become sons and daughters to me,’ says Jehovah, the Almighty.”

UNBELIEVERS are not only the atheists, but the non-believers of the biblical truth ... and that includes some "believers" of lies.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Jesus never was ecumenical. He would never have sat down with the Pharisees and asked what they believed in order to come to an agreement with them. He knew the Truth and how those who defend it act.

His disciples never made peace with the false teachers. Using the Scriptures and the things they learned from Jesus Christ, they were not only CAPABLE, but also AUTHORIZED to expose those who tried to occupy a position as spiritual guides of the sheep that did not belong to them, without even stopping to check if things that they imagined were really teachings that came from the true anointed of God.

2 Cor. 11:12 Now what I am doing I will still do, that I may cut off the pretext from those who are wanting a pretext for being found equal to us in the office of which they boast. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works.

2 Cor. 6:14 Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? 15 Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer share in common with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I will reside among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” 17 “‘Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take you in.’” 18 “‘And I will become a father to you, and you will become sons and daughters to me,’ says Jehovah, the Almighty.”

UNBELIEVERS are not only the atheists, but the non-believers of the biblical truth ... and that includes some "believers" of lies.

Jesus sat with sinners and unbelievers. But most importantly the topic is for here and now...this forum and the members of it. If a member identifies as a Christian then he/she is welcomed and encouraged to join in the discussions at hand...or create their own thread.
The forums attract members from all over the world and from many different denominational doctrines. And most every denomination that is Christian preaches Christ and gospel of salvation...the differences between their doctrine and your doctrine is where the strife begins.
As you notice, there is no denomination to choose on your profile page. And that is on purpose.
We want everyone to come and share and gain a sense of belonging. To be encouraged and edified.
And for our non-christian members it is an opportunity to meet them and minister Jesus love to them.
They are not allowed to post in the Christian section.
So I see so many come here with the mentality to defend the "truth"....whose truth? Theirs...and they start off from the very beginning creating strife.
I understand you not wanting to fellowship with unbelievers but everyone here is a believer.
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[rockytopva]

Everything around us is escalating very rapidly and prophesy for the end times are being fulfilled as we speak.
We are instructed by the Apostle Paul to be as one in the body.
There are several places that address the body of Christ and how we must all work together in one mind, in one accord...
I want to start with 1 Corinthians 2 as my foundation to build on...
Continue to next post....

Where is that winner button?

 

[Enoch111]

Let's not get a trinity debate going in this thread please.

Well if everyone agreed on the deity of Christ and the Trinity there would be no "warring".