True or not?
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Dropship
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Food for thought-
"The Lord will lay waste the earth and devastate it. It is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws, violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant..
Therefore a curse consumes the earth, its people must bear their guilt. The city is left in ruins, its gate is battered to pieces.
So will it be on the earth and among the nations, from the west they acclaim the Lords's majesty. Therefore in the east give glory to the Lord, the God of Israel, in the islands of the sea.
The floodgates of the heavens are opened, the foundations of the earth shake.
The earth is broken up, the earth is split asunder, the earth is thoroughly shaken. The earth reels like a drunkard, it sways like a hut in the wind, so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion" (Isaiah ch 24/25)
So perhaps a billion nonchristians praying to false gods disrupts the fragile balnce of God's creation and triggers earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, illness, birth defects etc, it's not a new idea and sooner or later the San Andreas fault is going to let rip in California.
"Whatever the natural cause, sin is the true cause of all earthquakes." - John Wesley (1703 - 1791)
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I don't know what to think, that's why I asked. I could possible be true that is indeed 'divine justice', there is plenty of precedents for it in the OT. But also God promised Hagar to make her son Ishmael into a great nation. So is he now punishing that nation? And for this premise to be bandied about wily-nily may well be dangerous and cause trouble.
Genesis 21:17-18
God heard the boy crying, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation.”
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One should consider the source, a Jewish leader.
I wouldn't look to him to divine the will of God. The Jews rejected the will of God at the most fundamental level, to believe in the one he sent.
amigo de christo
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Whoever sold us that bill of goods that the muslim religoin are of ishmael are lying .
And even if they were , THE FLESH profits nothing .
Is it true? I doubt it, myself. I think that God is withholding His judgments of nations for the current time.
Luke 13:1-5 KJV
1) There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
2) And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
3) I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
4) Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
5) I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
What I see in the present day as judgment from God is individual, when He turns them over to their fleshy lusts, described in Romans 1.
Is it dangerous? I think anything that gives a wrong view of God is harmful.
Much love!
I agree with how Sir Robert Anderson describes this in The Silence of God. That concerning judgment, God is silent in the current dispensation. When He again begins to speak, in judgment, the entire world will know.
The end comes as a flood, as a sudden destruction.
Much love!
Taken
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I believe God controls weather and earths effects.
Divine intervention? Yes
Justice? Wouldn’t say Justice.
Perhaps… a Sign, A warning…IDK
Likely… Jews may think it Justice.
Likely… Jews may feel a mix of relief and compassion. People are individual thinkers.
Divine intervention? Yes
Justice? Wouldn’t say Justice.
Perhaps… a Sign, A warning…IDK
Likely… Jews may think it Justice.
Likely… Jews may feel a mix of relief and compassion. People are individual thinkers.
Lambano
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Oh? He says he knows what God is thinking? He knows this how?
If indeed he is being presumptuous in speaking for God, yes, it is dangerous, both for the one speaking and the ones hearing.
"For I have not sent them,” declares the Lord, “but they are prophesying falsely in My name, so that I will drive you away and that you will perish, you and the prophets who prophesy to you.” (Jeremiah 27:15)
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Bob Estey
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I don't know if it's true or not, but I wouldn't call it dangerous.
I believe you need to be careful when you start censoring people. Censoring can become a habit so that soon you simply censor anything you don't want to hear.
I'm sorry if you thought I was censoring anything or anybody, that was not my intention.
Bob Estey
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Sometimes when something awful happens, you might wonder if God is punishing someone.
It is probably very true. And no, that is not a "dangerous" comment. The world needs to hear that divine judgments are coming upon this earth and will actually intensify in the future. Hence both Jews and Muslims need to repent and be converted. There have not been enough warnings by Christians regarding this. Indeed Christians should be proclaiming that if all the Western leaders and politicians do not repent, they will come under divine judgment. It is a wonder that some of them have not already dropped dead for their wickedness. If a few select ones all died on the same day from "natural causes" the world might wake up and see God's hand at work.
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ScottA
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Both good and evil are the providence of God.
The modern state of Israel or a modern religious Jewish leader claiming it however, is a different matter--that I would say is not true. Christ was "the Last" of the house of Israel, before going on to the "other fold" of the Gentiles of whom He is also "the First" and the "firstfruits." Biblically, having been cut at the root (Matthew 3:10 / Mark 11:20), modern day Jews are Gentiles. As Jews only, no sacrifice remains. Hebrews 10:26
Behold
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Arabs will tell you that Jews are the offspring of Apes and Pigs, and that Hitler got it right., and keep those ovens hot.
Many Arabs (Palestinians) are taught this indoctrination brain washing when they are about 4 yrs old +, and this indoctrination continues till they try to blow you up (you Infidel)....so that Allah is "well pleased".
Allah is one of 360 Bedouin "godz", that the tribe of Muhammed decided to claim as their "one".
He is the "moon god". ,and if you look at a Muslim Flag, it always has a Crescent moon and some stars on it.
The worldwide news media wont tell you that, but i just did.
The updated dictionary's , and most other (fake) news media will tell you that "allah" is just a/the word for "God".
I bet you've been told that also.
well.....Not quite.
Religious Jews will tell you that 40,000 dead Arabs is Divine Justice, and even till today these same religious HEBREWS willfully reject their Messiah.
Reader.....HEBREWS 10:26 is still up and running 2000+ years after the Cross was raised.. HEBREWS 10:26 has never stopped over here in the Land of Jesus's Birth.
Also.....
When God's "time of the Gentile's ends, He is going to take up His dealing with the Jews again, and also with the rest of the Christ rejectors who entered the Trib, and when the Great Trib starts, you don't want to be down here.
Do this instead... and miss all that..
2 Corinthians 6:2
AND......
Nothing new under the sun.
Ecclesiastes 1:9
= Arabs and Jews have been at this same thing for a very long time.
Let me share some Recent "Palestinian" Photos with you, followed by what Israel has to do to survive. (That'll be the young Jewish girl in Photo #4, who is close to the wailing wall, and was nice enough to pose for me.
Welcome to the middle east.
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Many Arabs (Palestinians) are taught this indoctrination brain washing when they are about 4 yrs old +, and this indoctrination continues till they try to blow you up (you Infidel)....so that Allah is "well pleased".
Allah is one of 360 Bedouin "godz", that the tribe of Muhammed decided to claim as their "one".
He is the "moon god". ,and if you look at a Muslim Flag, it always has a Crescent moon and some stars on it.
The worldwide news media wont tell you that, but i just did.
The updated dictionary's , and most other (fake) news media will tell you that "allah" is just a/the word for "God".
I bet you've been told that also.
well.....Not quite.
Religious Jews will tell you that 40,000 dead Arabs is Divine Justice, and even till today these same religious HEBREWS willfully reject their Messiah.
Reader.....HEBREWS 10:26 is still up and running 2000+ years after the Cross was raised.. HEBREWS 10:26 has never stopped over here in the Land of Jesus's Birth.
Also.....
When God's "time of the Gentile's ends, He is going to take up His dealing with the Jews again, and also with the rest of the Christ rejectors who entered the Trib, and when the Great Trib starts, you don't want to be down here.
Do this instead... and miss all that..
2 Corinthians 6:2
AND......
Nothing new under the sun.
Ecclesiastes 1:9
= Arabs and Jews have been at this same thing for a very long time.
Let me share some Recent "Palestinian" Photos with you, followed by what Israel has to do to survive. (That'll be the young Jewish girl in Photo #4, who is close to the wailing wall, and was nice enough to pose for me.
Welcome to the middle east.
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Illuminator
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"A Person in White Fed Me": Boy Stuck Under Rubble Miraculously Survives Earthquake in Turkey -
"A person dressed in white fed me...then disappeared."
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Illuminator
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Prayer for Turkey and Syria
“God of mercy,We pray for the people of Turkey and Syria
following the recent earthquakes.
We mourn the death and destruction.
and pray for those who have died and those who grieve.
Lord, bring them comfort, strength and renewed hope.
We hold in our hearts those who are injured,
and those who have lost loved ones, livelihoods, and homes.
Lord, bring them comfort, strength and renewed hope.
Sustain and guide all responding to this disaster.
Grant those affected courage and resilience,
as they rebuild their lives and communities.
Lord, bring them comfort, strength and renewed hope.
Inspire us to unite in solidarity,
acting swiftly and generously,
so that help may reach all who need it.
Lord, bring them comfort, strength and renewed hope.
Amen.”
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