I’ve committed the unpardonable sin

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Most English translations are garbage, but don't take my word for it. Use this Bible search tool regarding verses that say "eternal" or "everlasting". For example...

Mathew 25:46 ESV
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

Mathew 25:46 YLT
And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.

Universalism is not mentioned in any version of The Bible.
 
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Universalism is not mentioned in any version of The Bible.
Actually, it is. :Thumbsup:

1 Timothy 4:10 esv
For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.

Romans 11:32 esv
For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.

1 John 2:2 ESV He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.


1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.

John 1:29​

29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

Luke 3:6

and all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

1 Corinthians 15:20 "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

John 12:32
And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself

Revelation 21:5 esv
And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

2 Corinthians 5:19 esv
that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation.

John 6:39 esv
And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.

2 Corinthians 5:14-15 esv
For the love of Christ controls us, because we have concluded this: that one has died for all, therefore all have died; 15 and he died for all, that those who live might no longer live for themselves but for him who for their sake died and was raised.

Romans 5:18 esv
Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.

John 3:17 esv
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

Philippians 2:10-11 esv
so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Romans 10:9 esv
because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
 

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Try to never think or say anything negative about anyone, ever.

Then you will know when forces of evil are putting negative thoughts in your head.

As the content will be things you never think on your own.
Not sure how demons put thoughts in our heads. the bad thoughtsd are likely of our sinful flesh.
 

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This is what I don't often read of others. Wall text. A long post. But I was inspired and it is directed to you and your fears.


I think you have to maybe investigate all that went into compiling the Bible of today.
Man and politics played a huge role.
The first faith is to believe men who said God inspired the Bible.

One thing that has never appeared on its cover or title? The words, "God's Words".
Holy Biblios, holy book, has.

If God wanted to write a book wouldn't he insure it was perfect and unchanging forever?

There were no scribes walking with Jesus during his ministry and taking down every word he said.


Jesus Apostles delivered his gospel by word of mouth after Jesus ascended to Heaven. And this continued for centuries.
Christianity, The Way, was first an oral teaching, tradition.

The first "text",letter written to relate the gospel was hundreds of years after Christ.
And remember, there are scrolls relating to Jesus being found to this day. While the Bible you own was declared by men in councils to be, by their election, a closed canon. Meaning essentially, it is complete and God has nothing more to say.

So when you are led to believe there is such a thing as an unforgivable sin, consider what that is saying about God and the gospel itself.


In history the Bible was used as a weapon by the church.

Human politics entered into a book that was said to be the inspired words of a holy spirit. Man's dictates were conflated into holy writ.


Therein, if people were led to fear speaking truthfully about the faith, question, the book they did not own but were read by empowered clergy who were one with the state, they would be said to be questioning God. Which was not allowed. And could mean death.

Therein, saying anyone who spoke against the holy spirit would not be forgiven communicated a dire threat and future. And insured silence and no questions. Just fear and obedience.
How many Christians have you heard say we are saved also by being obedient?

Because the church was entrusted with the authority to forgive sins. Unforgiven sins meant eternal damnation and Hell.


Insuring people did not dare ask questions or question God's word.


Now, think about what you're being asked to believe when the church attributed their authority and prohibition to ask questions, talk against the holy spirit that inspired the Bible, to Jesus. Who was God on Earth.


There's a rule God says. If you speak, blaspheme, which can include asking questions because that's tantamount to questioning God and his word, it's an unforgivable sin. Which means destined to eternal Hell.


Now, consider the human condition before Salvation.

You're told you are born separated from God. With a fallen human sinful nature and until or unless Saved by Jesus, you are doomed to eternal Hell for the wages of your unrepentant sins.


Unless or until you are redeemed from your sins through Christ and the grace of God. In which case , as God's word tells you, he shall remember your sins no more.

Because they are put under the redeeming blood of himself as Jesus and by that you are eternally washed clean of them. All because Jesus paid your sin price, death, on the cross.


Now, you're suppose to believe if you question, speak, against God, as is the case of every person in their natural mind, sinner state, all that is done away because that is one sin God cannot, will not, forgive?


Omniscient, all knowing, God. Sovereign, all powerful and in total control of his creation, God, will remember that sin and NEVER forgive it?

When you are a Christian, washed clean of sin, reborn in the spirit of Christ whose Holy Spirit now indwells you, will damn you for that particular sin? And vacate all that the Gospel brought forth through God's grace to you?


Stop!


Rather than think your thoughts and words can overcome God's covenant with you, ask yourself why you feel the way you did when you committed those "sins" against the Holy Spirit.


There isn't a thought, a word, that God does not know in you.

Those who are in Christ do not make a habit of sinning. Which means we are now cognizant of what sin is.


However, this does not mean we do not question what it all means, what God's plans are, etc... Because though reborn spiritually in the spirit of God, we are still rational thinking people who have questions about God's plans when our lives are none the less impacted by worldly matters.


In short, don't let long dead men aligned with the authority vested in church and state lead you to believe there is something man can do that God will not ever forgive.

Otherwise, Jesus sacrifice to manifest, seal, a new covenant with his blood wasn't all powerful and all forgiving.


Look within to those unanswered questions that out of frustration may have led you to "blaspheme" the Holy Spirit.

And take it all to God to set the answers straight for you and your peace of mind.



Every Christian has questions as to what we're asked to believe.


Why does a sovereign Omniscient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent spirit that created all that exists, seen and unseen, inspire a book to let little lesser being mortals know "he" exists?

Especially when in that book Paul tells us all of nature is proof God exists so that we are without excuse. (If we claim there's no proof God exists .)


Why does that same eternal powerful spirit require lesser beings behave in a way that the power prescribes as pleasing to his sense of primacy? A bit like man whispering orders to an ant to insure the ant behave in a way that pleases the man's ego and sustains the man's sense of higher authority and station over the ant.


What does the whole point of a rule book , the Bible, accomplish when the reason we need to be saved from God's judgement is because God decreed us to be condemned for what Eve and Adam did.

Odd when we're later told we are all responsible for our own sins. The sins of the father will not pass to the son.

But we're condemned because the sins of the mother and father of us all sinned? And their sins passed to us and made for our fallen nature by God's will?

When he didn't forgive them for eating of a condemning tree he decreed as such because he made its fruit off limits,but still planted it there, and planted in the garden he made thereafter and judged good?


How does God's enemy disguise himself as a serpent when God is everywhere all the time and knows all eternally?


How do Eve and Adam choose to obey when they had no knowledge of right and wrong, good and evil?


If God sends us to Hell for being as he created us to be destined for that place unless he saves us, why did he let Lucifer and those follower angels live after committing the ultimate act of blasphemy and sin in Heaven? Sin in Heaven?As they sought to unseat God and take over there?

And not only let to live but cast Lucifer and those angels to earth. Making Lucifer, ha Satan, Lord here.


Lucifer warred against God and lived. If we die without Jesus we die eternally and go to the Hell God made to first receive Satan and his angels but then opened it to receive us after the future judgement of all people? Meanwhile God let's Satan continue to challenge God's authority as his adversary by tempting us ? With God's permission because God let Lucifer live after his sin?



See? At one time I'd have been burned at the stake for asking that publicly. Hanged. Guillotined.

Because that is questioning God. Blaspheming Holy Spirit.


In truth it's natural. Because God gave us an intellect that we don't lose when he gives us his Holy Spirit.


And forget the falsity that says we are born separated from God.

God says..... All that exists is of and from him.
When God is the source of all , no thing is from any other source. Not even his adversary.

Think! It's food for the soul. And stop beating yourself up thinking you're doomed for your thoughts. Look deeper and ask God why he led you to them.

Maybe because God is a spirit. And we must worship him in spirit. Not by the book.

The Bible is a guidebook. Jesus said, do not believe every spirit but test them to see if they are of God.

I think God let that enter the Bible to let us know Spirit is more powerful than mans printing press and politics.

Jesus condemned the Pharisees for worshiping the law and being blind to the spirit. And that blindness led them to want to kill Jesus. Who was God.
way too long like I often do, what I had time to read, I agree with
 

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Not sure how demons put thoughts in our heads. the bad thoughtsd are likely of our sinful flesh.
I believe they can.

For example, when Judas turned against Jesus and secretly betrayed Him to His enemies, the Bible says that “Satan entered Judas” (Luke 22:3). (copied from another)
 

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I believe they can.

For example, when Judas turned against Jesus and secretly betrayed Him to His enemies, the Bible says that “Satan entered Judas” (Luke 22:3). (copied from another)
Possession is not the same as thoughts in our heads. The other day, I was tired and .... in pain, shoulder surgery.

Better example, I just thought of is Acts 5,

Ananias and Sapphira​

5 There was a man named Ananias. His wife’s name was Sapphira. Ananias sold some land he had, 2 but he gave only part of the money to the apostles. He secretly kept some of the money for himself. His wife knew this, and she agreed with it.

3 Peter said, “Ananias, why did you let Satan fill your mind with such an idea? You kept part of the money for yourself and lied about it to the Holy Spirit! 4 Before you sold the field, it belonged to you, right? And even after you sold it, you could have used the money any way you wanted. How could you even think of doing such a thing? You lied to God, not to us!”
 

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My advice for unpardonable sins is the same as it would be for pardonable ones: Ask God for forgiveness in Jesus's name, and trust Him to pardon the unpardonable. Doing the impossible is God's specialty, you know.

You didn't ask for prayers, but being a stubborn little cuss, I decided to pray for you anyway. May that same Holy Spirit come to you and give you assurance and peace.
I am completely indifferent to my sin. I have been and will seek Jesus whether He answers me or not. He deserves all the glory.
 
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I found this at my job today. I hope this is a sign God is drawing me to salvation. It could have been an answer to someone praying for me I’m not sure, God works in mysterious ways. It gives me a tiny sliver of hope. Will take a break from the board for a while :)
 

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I have committed the unpardonable sin. I have deliberately said evil things against the Holy Spirit and countless deliberately thought evil thoughts against the Holy Spirit. I cannot be saved. I am indifferent to this deep down. I’ve tried to seek Christ but it is in vain. I am like Cain. I know in my heart it’s too late for me. Yes the heart is deceitful but my heart is not deceiving me in this case. I know not another second is promised. I have anxiety about dying every day. God has given me over to a reprobate mind.
Have you ever pondered the possibility that despite feeling hopeless about your salvation, you are still alive and breathing? It begs the question, what is the purpose of being alive if there is no chance for redemption or salvation? You know what, I had a similar experience, but this time it was not the Holy Spirit, it was God Himself. I found myself thinking, "I don't deserve to live because of my sins." But then I questioned why I was still alive, why had God not punished me yet and for blaspheming Him the Holy Spirit years ago? I even wondered if I had committed the unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. But when I asked God, I was surprised by His response. Despite my thoughts and past actions, God told me that I had not offended the Holy Spirit in that way.
I cannot control the presence of these malevolent thoughts.
 

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Have you ever pondered the possibility that despite feeling hopeless about your salvation, you are still alive and breathing? It begs the question, what is the purpose of being alive if there is no chance for redemption or salvation? You know what, I had a similar experience, but this time it was not the Holy Spirit, it was God Himself. I found myself thinking, "I don't deserve to live because of my sins." But then I questioned why I was still alive, why had God not punished me yet and for blaspheming Him the Holy Spirit years ago? I even wondered if I had committed the unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. But when I asked God, I was surprised by His response. Despite my thoughts and past actions, God told me that I had not offended the Holy Spirit in that way.
I cannot control the presence of these malevolent thoughts.
Blessings ThePuffyBob. Indeed you can not, for The Lord has said that all the thoughts and imaginations of man are evil continually. This He said in the old testament. I used to have that long ago when I walked in darkness, but not today. And you are correct, most Christians are not Christian at all. Most have not handed the keys of their life over to make Him Lord of their life. Savior perhaps, but not Lord. So you have the original sin nature remaining and The Holy Spirit never entering in. The Lord has said, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock, if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will enter in and sup(eat) with him." This is the meaning of being born again(born from above). So when The Lord(The Holy Spirit) enters in, anything unclean exits out as The Lord is Holy. And so do the sources of these malevolent thoughts. And the things That Jesus ask of us in the Bible are now made possible little by little. In other words, the journey of The True Christian begins. And The Lord promises to finish the work He started in us. Blessings.
 
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Blessings ThePuffyBob. Indeed you can not, for The Lord has said that all the thoughts and imaginations of man are evil continually. This He said in the old testament. I used to have that long ago when I walked in darkness, but not today. And you are correct, most Christians are not Christian at all. Most have not handed the keys of their life over to make Him Lord of their life. Savior perhaps, but not Lord. So you have the original sin nature remaining and The Holy Spirit never entering in. The Lord has said, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock, if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will enter in and sup(eat) with him." This is the meaning of being born again(born from above). So when The Lord(The Holy Spirit) enters in, anything unclean exits out as The Lord is Holy. And so do the sources of these malevolent thoughts. And the things That Jesus ask of us in the Bible are now made possible little by little. In other words, the journey of The True Christian begins. And The Lord promises to finish the work He started in us. Blessings.
Only when the Holy Spirit enters and dwells within your temple can you truly offend and hurt the Holy Spirit, specifically by insulting it.
 

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IF one is asking the question, then they did not sinned aganist the Holy Spirit.
 

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I know in my heart it’s too late for me.
I have anxiety about dying every day.


If you have committed the unpardonable sin, why are you so worried about it?

Look at the people around you, who are not Christian, they are not saved, not goingt to heaven, are they worried?

Why are you worried?

May I suggest that you are fooling yourself, that you have not committed the unpardonable sin and that what you need to do is start actively serving God.
To daily read the bible and pray, to be regular in attendance at church, to be living according to the ten commandments.
 
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I honestly feel like giving up. When I read about Jesus I get nothing but condemnation. I am indifferent to my sin. I can commit any sin and not feel remorse about it. Nothing moves me in the slightest.
 

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I honestly feel like giving up. When I read about Jesus I get nothing but condemnation. I am indifferent to my sin. I can commit any sin and not feel remorse about it. Nothing moves me in the slightest.
Try looking specifically for those verses where Jesus talks about Love, Forgiveness, Mercy, Compassion, Reconciliation, and the like. These are the ones I usually highlight in the "Encouraging Verses" thread. (But ignore the last one I did about condemnation for those who pee on walls.)
 
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I hope this message is true. This website is good. Check it out. I get nothing but condemnation and anxiety doubts when reading the Bible. I honestly would trade anything to have a clean conscience if I really think about it. My will to seek God is getting less and less everyday.
 
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