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Never mentioned in Scripture about God being manifest in flesh, so I'd stick with the premise that he didn't. He did however assume the form of angels several times if my memory serves me correct.
The reference in Eden, I hardly think is God actually walking literally. It's a figurative speech just like the right hand of the Lord. God is invisible. You can't see him.
why should it be figurative when in the garden of gethsamane He walked and talked with humans - He also spoke to Moses face to face and Moses supposedly saw His backside - the Jews knew that one could not see God and live and yet some did see God and lived,so was it not God incarnate they saw and not a theophany that ate and drank and even had His feet washed - when the disciples thought that Jesus was a theophany did He not tell them that a theophany did not eat and drink etc - winc
I can't reply effectively for fear of being too sarcastic.
As for Moses, here is the verse:
Exo 33:22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
Exo 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
Moses saw just a little of the Lord's glory. Not his body! I would strongly suggest studying up before you even think about asking more questions, if that is what you are actually doing.
Jesus Christ was God manifest in the flesh, but he wasn't walking earth before he was born!?
Tit 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
was God ever incarnate before He was made flesh and dwelt among us ? - winc
I said Jesus was the son of God and not God on another forum debate,and the catholic moderator suspended me.
When Jesus prayed every day,who was he praying to himself?Jesus was in fact the messiah,The Christ,The son of God,The Lamb of God sacrificed for the sins of those who believe in him,but i do not think he was God.He seems to have been half God and Half man.
When Jesus prayed every day,who was he praying to himself?Jesus was in fact the messiah,The Christ,The son of God,The Lamb of God sacrificed for the sins of those who believe in him,but i do not think he was God.He seems to have been half God and Half man.
It says throughout the scripture that Jesus is Christ as well as the Messiah,there is no debating that,but it does not identify him as God.consider the following verse Matthew20:23 "And he sayeth unto them,ye shall drink of my cup,and be baptized with the baptism i am baptized with:but to sit on my right hand,and on my left,is not mine to give,but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my father" It seems clear to me not just from this verse but from others that Jesus is the Son of God. The idea that Jesus is God may come from the fact that the Spirit of God(the Holy Spirit was in him).Through Jesuses entire life he always refered to God as the father.
Jesus is Christ as well as the Messiah
It's true that scripture doesn't emphasise their equality, and I agree with almost everything you've said here, because the purpose of Messiah's sacrifice was to return the children's hearts to their true Father - God, and to show us that God's heart was towards us, His disobedient children.It just seems to me that alot of christians are replacing God with Jesus.I was taught that Jesus is the mediator between us and God.He was never meant to be considered to be Gods equal.
In the old testament when a sacrifice was made to God,it was not then worshipped as a God.Jesus was the last sacrifice,A new covenant between God and his people.The Lamb of God,with his blood we can wash away our sins and be worthy of eternal life.God created Jesus,Jesus did not create God.The idea that the two are in some way equal has been hard for me to grasp.
Hi Plaides,
It's true that scripture doesn't emphasise their equality, and I agree with almost everything you've said here, because the purpose of Messiah's sacrifice was to return the children's hearts to their true Father - God, and to show us that God's heart was towards us, His disobedient children.
There are other verses though, like John 1:18 which justify emphasising the oneness of the Father and the Son.
was God ever incarnate before He was made flesh and dwelt among us ? - winc