With regard to the office of Pope, that was established by Christ Himself in Matt. 16:18-19, especially 19, which says, "I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.
Rella, quick question. Are you Orthodox? Or do you belong to one of the thousands of Protestant sects? Just curious.
An extremely long debate can be had on Pope Frankie "over the supremacy of the
Pope."
You do believe that the
pope is infallible in matters of doctrine, correct? While
Orthodox Christians view the
pope as a human being.
Do you remember when Frankie said the " statement that "relationship with Jesus is dangerous and harmful"?
( see:
Did the Pope Condemn Personal Relationships with Jesus?)
This was from a Catholic source as to not be accused of providing a source that would be too common... or anti=Catholic
It goes on to say
We are able to live this journey not only
because of others, but
together with others.
In the Church there is no “do it yourself,” there are no “free agents.” How many times did Pope Benedict describe the Church as an ecclesial “we”! At times one hears someone say: “I believe in God, I believe in Jesus, but I don’t care about the Church.” How many times have we heard this? And this is not good. There are those who believe they can maintain a personal, direct, and immediate relationship with Jesus Christ outside the communion and the mediation of the Church. These are dangerous and harmful temptations. These are, as the great Paul VI said, absurd dichotomies. It is true that walking together is challenging, and at times can be tiring: it can happen that some brother or some sister creates difficulties, or shocks us. . . . But the Lord entrusted his message of salvation to a few human beings, to us all, to a few witnesses; and it is in our brothers and in our sisters, with their gifts and limitations, that he comes to meet us and make himself known. And this is what it means to belong to the Church. Remember this well: to be Christian means belonging to the Church. The first name is “Christian,” the last name is “belonging to the Church” (
General Audience, Wednesday, 25 June 2014).
And another Catholic Source
www.askacatholic.com
Hi, guys —
- Why did the Pope said it is dangerous to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
Here's a quote:
Pope Francis described as dangerous the temptation to believe that one can have a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the Church.
I know he was trying to say that we should not go-it-alone and we should use the Church to further our efforts in developing our relationship with Jesus, but it certainly has caused a lot of uproar!!
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Before I go on with anymore comments I need to ask you to show me the scriptures that say we ought not approach Jesus on our own... which almost says we should not seek him for any reason... including our eternities..... I need to see it in writing. That it needs be a group effort.....
But look how Frankie countered himself....
Vatican City, Apr 8, 2018 / 04:20 am (
CNA/EWTN News).- On the Second Sunday of Easter, also known as Divine Mercy Sunday, Pope Francis said that our relationship with God is a personal one, filled with his love and mercy, where we proclaim like St. Thomas: “My Lord and my God!”
“To enter into Jesus’ wounds is to contemplate the boundless love flowing from his heart. It is to realize that his heart beats for me, for you, for each one of us,” the pope said April 8.
So, I side with the Orthodox on his being a human being and as such...he IS subject to error....
I believe over the years that the office of the Papacy has wandered far afield from what was Christs original intent. But, admittedly I cant prove it , I only observe.
Now... In answer to your " Are you Orthodox? Or do you belong to one of the thousands of Protestant sects?"
I am a Christian who only follows Jesus and is “born again” by the Spirit of God.
Do I belong to a sect of any kind..... LOL... not in the way you mean for I belong to God. God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy Spirit... The Godhead. (NO more talk about this)
I could be Orthodox... but then which one.... Globally,
there are 15 self-governing
churches among the Eastern Orthodox, while the Oriental Orthodox, including the Copts, Armenians, Ethiopians and Assyrians, have their own
churches. Most of the denominations in both groups have institutional
churches in the U.S., with the Greek Orthodox Church being the largest.
I could be Protestant.
And I could be Messianic (while listed under Protestantism is not of the same caliber.
I am a blend of all. For there is No church that is 100% right and No church that is 100% wrong.
And I seek only that which is right.
Do I pay my tithes and offering to any specific church? Yes, but I am no longer of all of their beliefs.
And that is all you need to know about me.