Hamas has attacked Israel with 5000 rockets, 100 dead Israelis. Israel and Hamas now at war

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Islam is an evil ideology.

Muslims are the biggest victims of Islam.

Like Christians, there are a range of Muslim devotion to Islam. No doubt most are "nominal" or cultural oriented but just try to get by everyday.
I am new here and am perhaps foolish in making this my first post. I absolutely agree with what you have stated here. A few years ago I watched several videos by a lady name Brigitte Gabriel. I found her thoughts on Islam to be 100% accurate. These last days I have been
following the events unfolding in Israel and I am filled with such sadness at what is happening.

Islam goes way beyond wanting the Jews to die... It is an ideology that wants to overtake and control the world. Islam hates everyone who is NOT them. This ideology was birthed on HATRED and deception. It is NOT a religion. Sadly... many do not see or understand this.
 
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Do you think calling a Black man the N-word has no relationship with hate? Same with the Z-word.
So I see you have been taught that using the term Zionism equates to calling 'any?' Jew a bad (hateful) name. I do not understand why many believe this type of thinking although I do know where it was born.

This is a pure US-centric false idea born out of the 1970s- and 80s especially promoted by pro-Israel Televangelists. Most are misguided IMO. And they misled many innocent Christians.

They would promote their craft by mixing and misapplying scripture with politics. Outrageous!

They would form slogans that would mean that God wants the Jews in their own land -Israel, so support it with your donations etc......

You won't find this type of thinking in Europe, who share your thought of Zionism...

Zionism is first a political force to control and legitimize their role in the 'Jewish' people and Judaic religion as the chosen ones, so don't get in our way as we are smarter and God is on our side....this is my basic view.

You should read and view articles of many many orthodox Jews and Rabbis who have through the decades condemned these Zionists even those in the State of Israel. Even they regard it purpose as an evil force.... not of God
 
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From Hezbollah ‘Fully Prepared’ To Join Hamas In War With Israel
“The speech came during a rally in a Beirut suburb, where hundreds of people gathered in unison with Hamas, waving flags representing Palestine and Hezbollah while screaming “Death to Israel.”

Not too often in Israel do you hear ‘screams of Death to Muslim countries.’
Because these common Jews know what's going on there....I've discussed some of it already,,they are living it everyday...and so are the common Palestinians.

I hear all the fanatics and extremists are over here crying for the heads of Palestinians and even their families, just like the ignorant calling for killing Arabs during 9/11. Americans and America as my second home have the most smartest and yet by far the most dumbed-down and dumbest people alive. They have been fed lies from birth....and raised with hot dogs, ice cream and apple pie,,and now cell phones.

What do you think of these God-fearing Americans! They are hateful and ignorant as the 'other' side....
 
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I am new here and am perhaps foolish in making this my first post. I absolutely agree with what you have stated here. A few years ago I watched several videos by a lady name Brigitte Gabriel. I found her thoughts on Islam to be 100% accurate. These last days I have been
following the events unfolding in Israel and I am filled with such sadness at what is happening.

Islam goes way beyond wanting the Jews to die... It is an ideology that wants to overtake and control the world. Islam hates everyone who is NOT them. This ideology was birthed on HATRED and deception. It is NOT a religion. Sadly... many do not see or understand this.
Hi and welcome to the CB of many threads and topics as this one, beginning to get hotter by the day....
 

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A few years ago I watched several videos by a lady name Brigitte Gabriel. I found her thoughts on Islam to be 100% accurate.
Ditto. I think many would benefit by hearing what she has to say.

There is a reason why the world hates Israel.

Ephesians 2:1-3 KJV
1) And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Islam goes way beyond wanting the Jews to die... It is an ideology that wants to overtake and control the world. Islam hates everyone who is NOT them. This ideology was birthed on HATRED and deception. It is NOT a religion. Sadly... many do not see or understand this.
Yes, Islam would subjugate the entire world if it can, though I think their first order of business is to remove God's chosen people.

Considering the many prophecies concerning Israel, if Satan were to eradicate them, wouldn't he count that a win? Jesus said that for the sake of the chosen, the days of the greatest ever affliction will be cut short. Jesus declared that they as a people would not be destroyed, that He would come to rescue them.

So wouldn't that make them the prime target for the enemies of God?

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Considering the many prophecies concerning Israel, if Satan were to eradicate them, wouldn't he count that a win? Jesus said that for the sake of the chosen, the days of the greatest ever affliction will be cut short. Jesus declared that they as a people would not be destroyed, that He would come to rescue them.

So wouldn't that make them the prime target for the enemies of God?
I absolutely agree. I am not well versed on end times prophesy or Israel for that matter but I do have a bit of an understanding regarding God's love for His chosen people.
 
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Zionism is first a political force to control and legitimize their role in the 'Jewish' people and Judaic religion as the chosen ones, so don't get in our way as we are smarter and God is on our side....this is my basic view.

My basic view also, except I am OK with a Jewish political force. ;)

You should read and view articles of many many orthodox Jews and Rabbis who have through the decades condemned these Zionists even those in the State of Israel. Even they regard it purpose as an evil force....
I've seen them. Much like many Christians who condemn any involvement with politics. I simply do not agree that it is necessary to leave politics to evil doers, divorced from Judeo-Christian religiosity.
 
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If these people (of Gen 12:2-3) were the spiritual nation, let alone the actual physical descendent of Jacob I would agree with you....and by the way you have this scripture displaced and now redundant since the time of Christ and you should know this if you are a believer anyway....These, at least 95% of them, are of the Khazarian converts to Judaism and Jewry of around 700-800 AD. They are fakers, and also evil, destructive, of those in power and influence.
Faking Jews? LOL Why would someone fake being a Jew? They practice their religion fervently, worship, with all the garb, rituals, prayers, feasts, trying to live under the LAW (613 laws), with a racist separatism from Gentiles and a world filled with Antisemitic people ... why would they want to fake that life??? I would want to escape it.
You do not know the blood lines from all tribes that God alone knows and has preserved. You read something, an unsubstantiated article about the Kharzarians, spew out a baseless and arbitrary percentage and believe it to be true.
THESE PEOPLE ARE JEWS, many are descendants from all the tribes of Israel and you have no knowledge to refute that.
Obviously some are converts but these people for thousands of years have held unto their faith, and had the perseverance against all odds to stick together and marry within their own race. Maybe a majority of the pure descendants have been lost, but a remnant remains - likely 1/3.
"but – As the Lord lives, who brought up the sons of Israel from the land of the north and from all the countries where He had banished them. For I will restore them to their own land which I gave to their fathers.” Jer. 16:15

>> Do you doubt that God an do this?

“Say to them, Thus says the Lord GOD, - Behold, I will take the sons of Israel from among the nations where they have gone and I will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land.” Ezek.37:21
 
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Just for a little Biblical perspective here . . .

Zechariah 14:1-3 KJV
1) Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2) For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3) Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Much love!
 

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What do you think of these God-fearing Americans! They are hateful and ignorant as the 'other' side....
Aren't you a God fearing American - you live in Florida? The way America looks today is very disappointing and depressing. The America I knew long ago was something to be proud of. It sounds like you are one of those liberals who hates America, has been infected with Obamaitis, a BLM and ANTIFA supporter -- Global Warmist nut?
Oh yah, I remember your pro-choice view too. Well, men fought for your freedom to think whichever warped way you choose. At least you chose to follow Christ right?

America is still great ... actually I am living in one of the more conservative states, Texas, so life is still good - not crazy yet.
We love certain things and hate others.
I hate evil people and so Islamic terrorists fall into that pot. I hate Putin, Kim Jong Un and the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and many other ruthless leaders -- but those are just feelings. I'm not going to act on those feelings -- murder and chop peoples off or their children's! But I do support self defense and Israel's right to defeat their enemies - ALL OF THEM. War is necessary at times to defeat evil. God hates them too! Guess what? He will destroy all unbelievers. That means at that moment, all Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists and any other humans following false religions when He comes. When He returns, you are either in Christ or not. So any Muslim plight, dream of a Palestianian state or any kind of fruitful happy future is futile, it will come to an end, and those who rally in support of them are wasting their time.
Hand them a tract of the Gospel, invite them to church, pray for them to come to Christ and a very small portion may respond. The Hamas are reprobates, irredeemable, they are working for Satan.
 
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Aren't you a God fearing American - you live in Florida? The way America looks today is very disappointing and depressing. The America I knew long ago was something to be proud of. It sounds like you are one of those liberals who hates America, has been infected with Obamaitis, a BLM and ANTIFA supporter -- Global Warmist nut?
Oh yah, I remember your pro-choice view too. Well, men fought for your freedom to think whichever warped way you choose. At least you chose to follow Christ right?
No Ronald not any of those labels you suggest or believe I am, truly, except for my Father God, I have great reverence for indeed.. Take another pop shot at me and you might get lucky and wound me....get the picture...and on whos side(s) you are on...

I think you might want to calm down and think this subject all through, else you might get really radicalized and go over to the Middle East and kill a Palestine with God on your side.....
 

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Faking Jews? LOL Why would someone fake being a Jew? They practice their religion fervently, worship, with all the garb, rituals, prayers, feasts, trying to live under the LAW (613 laws), with a racist separatism from Gentiles and a world filled with Antisemitic people ... why would they want to fake that life??? I would want to escape it.
You do not know the blood lines from all tribes that God alone knows and has preserved. You read something, an unsubstantiated article about the Kharzarians, spew out a baseless and arbitrary percentage and believe it to be true.
THESE PEOPLE ARE JEWS, many are descendants from all the tribes of Israel and you have no knowledge to refute that.
Obviously some are converts but these people for thousands of years have held unto their faith, and had the perseverance against all odds to stick together and marry within their own race. Maybe a majority of the pure descendants have been lost, but a remnant remains - likely 1/3.
"but – As the Lord lives, who brought up the sons of Israel from the land of the north and from all the countries where He had banished them. For I will restore them to their own land which I gave to their fathers.” Jer. 16:15

>> Do you doubt that God an do this?

“Say to them, Thus says the Lord GOD, - Behold, I will take the sons of Israel from among the nations where they have gone and I will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land.” Ezek.37:21
mmm, you do not know of the modern Jews and THEIR history who were at least not physically connected to those in the time of Christ.

Have you truly looked into this subject and to then weight both sides of the story your research and analysis will take you? I guess you might be afraid of what you might uncover....and destroy the truth you you hold dear.
 

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I think you might want to calm down and think this subject all through, else you might get really radicalized and go over to the Middle East and kill a Palestine with God on your side.....
Ick. I'm withholding what I really think.

Much love, and hope for something better!
 
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I guess you might be afraid of what you might uncover....and destroy the truth you you hold dear.
I've looked. I've read all sorts of things on your "fake Jews" theory over the years. Particularly several years ago when I actively researched this.

The fact is, the Bible speaks to the matter, no need to wonder.

For instance, how can you read the last 3 chapters of Zechariah, and not understand that this is really God's chosen people Israel who are in the land, BEFORE the regathering when Jesus returns?

Can God be more specific than to say "the house of David"?

Or here,

Zechariah 14:5 KJV
5) And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

This is plainly the same people group who were there in the ancient time.

I would not fight against them.

Zechariah 14:2-3 KJV
2) For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3) Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Much love!
 
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Again, except these God-fearing Americans did not launch 5,000 missiles into Israel.

Again, except these God-fearing Americans did not launch 5,000 missiles into Israel.
Given the opportunity, most of these God-fearing US, Canadians and from where ever these hypocrites are from, will vote to support weapons to kill Palestinians, fore sure, right? They are even more coward and sneaky this way as they don't need to ignite any rockets or see the their deadly results. It's all impersonal, from a distance. You have to say yes, else...you might be fibbing.

You see when these emotions run high the true colors of many people come out in true color, at least politically.

Can you imagine a poor family in the Gaza strip and there are many now, living in a tent and without food and supplies. There are many, as the proud and boastful folks on the 'other side' eat meat and drink beer, and listen to more of the propaganda being fed to them on the TV with God on their side.

You have not lived in real poverty have you. I have not, although closer to it than most in this country.

Born in a Quonset hut camp at a refugee displacement camp, And then as an improvement moved into a govt council 'house'.. no gas money/tokens for the gas to heat a 120 sq. ft. brick chained/row of government homes, with hardly any coal to add to the fire, with no sweets or toys...that was my life as in some places of East TN in the 1950s with norunny water, only from a stream. THis was my early life in England before going to NZ a young boy.

My Dad was starving in Siberia above Moscow and they survived with the help of God.

In the West life is taken for granted....enough I guess,,,