Hamas has attacked Israel with 5000 rockets, 100 dead Israelis. Israel and Hamas now at war

[APAK]

Oh the irony!

Look and learn, know the history. Who has actually not just with the use of threats, actually been wiping out the indigenous population systematically over the last 120 years? From 95% of land ownership and 90 % of the population to now only 1% of the land as an open-air prison, and 25% of the indigenous population...my figures may be off. it is only one type of people doing it and it's a geo-political and economic motive first. Who is this one set of people?

So there is no irony here at all if you read the actual events in history. I go on the facts and how human nature operates. I do not know what is your basis here,,,scripture?

And being an Arab and following Islam is a tertiary factor in this equation. Whatever this religion means to a person whether as an Arab Muslim or non-Arab has no bearing on this ongoing genocide! I guess we know that the Islamic terrorists have not taken over the State of Israel yet and never will of course..

..like the IRA in N Ireland, they never painted England deep green of shamrock and took over portions of England, and their genocide and their confiscation of lands continued on by the English regardless of their 'extreme' militant uncivil ways...

 

[APAK]

It’s complicated on many fronts. But the truth will be revealed. The modern day Jew is not Semitic, thus the term antisemitism regarding them is a misnomer. 90 to 95% percent of modern day Jewry are Ashkenazi; Ashkenaz was the the grandson of Japheth, Semitic people come from Noah’s son Shem.

The Arabs are Semitic they come from Abraham mixing with Hagar and their son Ishmael.

Abraham came from Shem.

And many were also of the Khazarian tribes that settled around the North and Eastern Black Sea and en masse converted to Judaism.

Thank you for you input. You are a breath of fresh air. I think there has only been a handful I know that agree in part or in the main with me on this topic.

Sanity check is now completed. Thank you again...APAK

 

[Truthnightmare]

And many were also of the Khazarian tribes that settled around the North and Eastern Black Sea and en masse converted to Judaism.

Thank you for you input. You are a breath of fresh air. I think there has only been a handful I know that agree in part or in the main with me on this topic.

Sanity check is now completed. Thank you again...APAK

It’s a subject that many Christian’s just except.
A person claiming to be a Jew, living in Israel, that person must be a descendent of Jacob, nothing can be further from the truth.

Anyhow.
The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler This book traces the history of the ancient Khazar Empire, a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in the Dark Ages became converted to Judaism. Khazaria was finally wiped out by the forces of Genghis Khan, but evidence indicates that the Khazars themselves migrated to Poland and formed the cradle of Western Jewry…

The Khazars’ sway extended from the Black Sea to the Caspian, from the Caucasus to the Volga, and they were instrumental in stopping the Muslim onslaught against Byzantium, the eastern jaw of the gigantic pincer movement that in the West swept across northern Africa and into Spain.

...but that does not alter the fact that the large majority of surviving Jews in the world is of Eastern European — and thus perhaps mainly of Khazar — origin. If so, this would mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga, not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan race; and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Should this turn out to be the case, then the term “anti-Semitism” would become void of meaning, based on a misapprehension shared by both the killers and their victims. The story of the Khazar Empire, as it slowly emerges from the past, begins to look like the most cruel hoax which history has ever perpetrated.

― Arthur Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe; pg.17.​

 

[APAK]

It’s a subject that many Christian’s just except.
A person claiming to be a Jew, living in Israel, that person must be a descendent of Jacob, nothing can be further from the truth.

Anyhow.
The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler This book traces the history of the ancient Khazar Empire, a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in the Dark Ages became converted to Judaism. Khazaria was finally wiped out by the forces of Genghis Khan, but evidence indicates that the Khazars themselves migrated to Poland and formed the cradle of Western Jewry…

The Khazars’ sway extended from the Black Sea to the Caspian, from the Caucasus to the Volga, and they were instrumental in stopping the Muslim onslaught against Byzantium, the eastern jaw of the gigantic pincer movement that in the West swept across northern Africa and into Spain.

Exactly...these Jews are the majority that came from Eastern European nations since around 1900 to immigrate into Palestine. And then the major immigration push during the 1930s until the 1950s.

And still folks want to ignore all this real recorded history.

I see you have read and studies on this subject, and it's an important topic and has Biblical implications and affects one's future prophetic views of the State of Israel today.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Antisemitism is a bastardised word that can mean anything or means nothing ?

What we see is a work of the Devil in such a word in fact, because of the above i put forward.

So what the stupid word Antisemitism is truly is pathetic in fact !

Did you all know that the Arab world is all Semitic people in fact ! They are Semitic people in fact ? so how can some idiot use the word antisemitic in fact !

It has nothing at all with being Semitic at all in fat !

It has to do with Jews and Arabs, Different types of Jewish religious and also different types of Arab religious and other things as well.

But to say Antisemitic exposes such a one as a total fool ! The are both Semitic and they have been at one another for 1000's of years in fact and why is that well the biggest issue is that they have no hope in fact for they lack one key element Grace ! for they have not Grace in fact ! That's a fact !

Sadly most so called Christians lack Grace because they are only carnal or religious, why because they are not truly born again in fact, so they lack Grace in fact !

Jesus said you Must be born again !

If one is looking to the so called Jews for your salvation you are not worthy of Christ Jesus in fact !

Jesus was a Jew! That's a fact.

anti-Semite | Etymology of anti-Semite by etymonline

Origin of anti-Semite: 1881, see anti-Semitism. One who seeks by political or other means to lessen the commercial, political, or soci ... See more.

www.etymonline.com

 

[BlessedPeace]

There is no such thing as a Palestinian.

Arab Historian Admits there is No Palestinian People

When the Ottoman rule ended, there was no Palestinian national identity or political borders. It was all made up later. Arabs themselves say so, but the west isn't listening

en.mida.org.il

 

[BlessedPeace]

I read the Palestinian's machine guns are M4, US army issued. Which means they got them from Afghanistan US army weapons left behind to the Taliban by Biden. And that is what happens when you abandon so many weapons to Taliban. This is on the Biden administration.

Staggering Costs – U.S. Military Equipment Left Behind In Afghanistan

The Biden Administration is hiding previously published audit reports quantifying U.S.-funded military gear into Afghanistan. Reports disappeared from federal websites over the weekend.

www.forbes.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1710931082999152694

Yes, it's on JB. Well,actually it is on the shadow president BHO.
It's also called Treason.

 

[BlessedPeace]

If Iran were to send even a dirty bomb, Iran would be toast. The USA could not let that happen without a response.

Ah,but think about the repercussions that would occur in America,Canada,and all western nations when the Muslim terror sleeper cells would be awakened to retaliation.

IED's exploding during the morning and afternoon rush. Suicide bombers detonating everywhere,including churches and temples.

 

[Adoration]

Welcome again, and where do you hail from in Canada? I've been with the scouts into Alberta some years back...Canada was so clean....even the gas stations

I am from Ontario. I did spend 20 years in Saskatchewan, but I have been back now since 2002.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

No Ronald not any of those labels you suggest or believe I am, truly, except for my Father God, I have great reverence for indeed.. Take another pop shot at me and you might get lucky and wound me....get the picture...and on whos side(s) you are on...

My mistake about you being a pro-choice advocate. I apologize, you are not in favor of aborting fetuses, therefore shouldn't be in favor of chopping babies heads off.
I had you down in my records as a non-trinitarian (a very small percentage of Christians whom I can't really relate to much). That would be a correct potshot, aye?
But about the other perception I had about you, "a liberal", let's open that up. You see, the liberals in this country get behind some pretty gnarly groups. Obama caused a lot of this division that we have now. He was an advocate for Muslims. He couldn't even mouth the words "Muslim terrorists". No, he called them extremists, evil men who hijacked the religion of ISLAM. As I pointed out in a previous post, quotes from the Quran which support their hatred towards Jews and Christians. Scriptures about their jihad is in the Quran.
Yesterday lots of these liberals were rallying in the USA on the side of the Palestinians, whom 58% of the 2 million are in favor of and support the Hamas. In practically all the Islamic nations, rallies in favor of Hamas was very clear.

You took a potshot at God-fearing Americans in these statements:
"Americans and America as my second home have the most smartest and yet by far the most dumbed-down and dumbest people alive. They have been fed lies from birth....and raised with hot dogs, ice cream and apple pie,,and now cell phones.
What do you think of these God-fearing Americans! They are hateful and ignorant as the 'other' side..." APAK

So, based on this criticism, you are not a God-fearing American, but live in Florida and you think we are hateful because the majority of us are against Muslim terrorism.
And then you summed up another post by saying: "Hamas is not your enemy.....look deeper."APAK

Sorry bro, you are on the wrong side!
Obama made the same mistake by not identifying the enemy, Muslim terroists, of which there are some 80 groups worldwide and they are enemies of Jews and Christians. We all remember 9/11. APAK, were they not our enemies on 9/11 either?

 

[Wrangler]

Look and learn, know the history.

I do know the history. That is what is so ironic about every single thing you are saying. The Palestinians launched 5,000 missiles into Israel and you are pretending the 'Zionists' are the aggressors and NOT the indigenous people being killed off.

I stand with Israel 100% so help me God.

 

[Wrangler]

Antisemitism is very openly displayed here. I agree, it's sad.

And he doubles down on his hatred for the Jews with every post.

 

[Wrangler]

ou have not lived in real poverty have you. I have not, although closer to it than most in this country.

Born in a Quonset hut camp at a refugee displacement camp, And then as an improvement moved into a govt council 'house'.. no gas money/tokens for the gas to heat a 120 sq. ft. brick chained/row of government homes, with hardly any coal to add to the fire, with no sweets or toys...that was my life as in some places of East TN in the 1950s with norunny water, only from a stream. THis was my early life in England before going to NZ a young boy.

My Dad was starving in Siberia above Moscow and they survived with the help of God.

In the West life is taken for granted....enough I guess,,,

Interesting commentary. Not sure how it relates to Muslims attacking Jews and you siding with the Muslims.

 

[Wrangler]

Islam cannot be made the sole cause and scape goat for evil here

Yes, Islam can be the sole cause because it is! Exposing the role that Islamic jihad theology and ideology play in the modern global conflicts Over 44K Jihadi attacks since 9/11.

why Palestinians are very desperate people today.

As I previously wrote, Muslims are the biggest victims of the evil ideology of Islam.

Imagine your statement being made by the Left about White Supremacy? They have no problem dubbing the entire people as the same, all Whites as racists, etc. If not, I'd love to see a vid of a Leftist denoucing the condemnation of all White people as Supremacists.

@APAK, why are you not responding to this point?

I hear all the fanatics and extremists are over here crying for the heads of Palestinians and even their families, just like the ignorant calling for killing Arabs during 9/11.

As you should since this is the way with human nature. See post #106.

 

[Wrangler]

It truly is amazing how you couch terrorists as the victim. Does Israel have the right to exist?

This is always the revealing question.

... categorically NOT!

Jew hatred, plain and simple. I'm so sorry to hear it from you friend.

 

[Wrangler]

t’s complicated on many fronts. But the truth will be revealed. The modern day Jew is not Semitic, thus the term antisemitism regarding them is a misnomer. 90 to 95% percent of modern day Jewry are Ashkenazi;

It's not that it's complicated. Even if true, it is irrelevant.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

mmm, you do not know of the modern Jews and THEIR history who were at least not physically connected to those in the time of Christ.

You don't know the truth of their genealogy, only God does.
We can trace our genealogies generally to back to the 1700's, rarely to the 1600's, and prior to that only European royalty.
However, DNA reveals further beyond written records available.

[The findings, spearheaded by geneticists from The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Harvard Medical School, were published Nov. 30 in Cell.

"About half of Jewish people around the world today identify as Ashkenazi, meaning that they descend from Jews who lived in Central or Eastern Europe. The term was initially used to define a distinct cultural group of Jews who settled in the 10th century in the Rhineland in western Germany."]
The Jews were scattered all over after 70AD, obviously away from Roman Emplire to the outer reaches.
-------
"There are approximately 300 families in Israel who, according to documents discovered in the Cairo Geniza, Cairo Geniza - Wikipedia are direct descendants of the Davidic family. Every Jewish family who is a Cohen or Levite has been around since Biblical times, when there was a Temple.
Common Cohen names include: Cohen, Katz (Cohen-Tzeddek-Righteous Priest), Kagan (Russian corruption of Cohen), Kahan/Kahana, Kaplan (Germanic corruption of Cappela, Latin for chapel), Azoulai (An acronym not uncommon among Moroccan Jews- refers to the fact that as a Cohen, they are forbidden to marry a woman who is divorced, widowed or has been a prostitute)
Common Levite names include Levi (Levy), Segal (Segen Levi), Amram (Moses’ family name), Levine" Yoni Ariel

These Jews have a strong and long bloodline, they stick together. God has sustained a remnant from each tribe. Prophecies are being fulfilled pertaining to the Jews, the regathering of Jews back to Israel, from 1948 to present. And near future prophecies will be literally fulfilled: Romans 11 and Rev. 7:4-8 have not happened in history, yet.

 

[Adoration]

There are so many layers to this topic .... history is indeed very important so that one can know the reality of a situation in the "now".
I fail miserably at knowing the history so I guess my little thoughts are based on what I have experienced and what I believe biblically.

My issue/problem I guess is the humanitarian side of things at the moment. If Israel goes through with a plan to destroy and eliminate
there is going to be blood-shed like we have never seen. Over one million people have been given 24 hours to vacate their homes and villages. I guess one could call this a warning, however when the reality of accomplishing this is NIL, I wonder at the 'rightness' of the plan.

Any kind of large scale retaliation at this point is simply based on revenge and punishment. I guess my problem is that those who will take
the brunt of punishment are the innocent ones STUCK living in a war-torn country.

I am also aware that there is no negotiating or compromising with evil/Islam. It's a sad state of affairs. My mind is too small to take it all
in or even pretend to understand any of it.

This has been an interesting conversation.

* I am adding an after thought. HA. I don't think fighting against Islam is a one time thing. It's an evil that exists and even if Israel was to wipe out every terrorist on the Gaza Strip, fighters for the cause will continue to infiltrate society.

 

[Rockerduck]

Ah,but think about the repercussions that would occur in America,Canada,and all western nations when the Muslim terror sleeper cells would be awakened to retaliation.

IED's exploding during the morning and afternoon rush. Suicide bombers detonating everywhere,including churches and temples.

Armageddon is coming, Its all in God's timing. It will begin by somebody this way.

 

[mailmandan]

Antisemitism is very openly displayed here. I agree, it's sad.

Those Not Condemning Hamas are Antisemitic | Newsmax.com

It should not be difficult to condemn terrorism.

It has nothing to do with whether you support the current Israeli government and its policies.

One can sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, as many of us do. But that has nothing to do with the brutal murders of women and children and the elderly, with the point-blank executions of 260 young people attending a music festival, with the slaughter of children in front of their parents or of parents in front of their children, as Hamas did.

For a very long time, those on the left who have been most critical of Israel's policies have insisted that they are anti-Israel and not antisemites. Not so.

Those who do not condemn Hamas are antisemites. It is as simple as that.

The mass murder of over 1,000 Jews — the worst day in Jewish history since the Holocaust — was driven by hatred of all Jews.

To blame Israel for this mass murder is an expression of antisemitism at its worst.

In New York's Times Square last Sunday, the antisemites held a rally in support of Palestine. They were joined by their allies — Nazis waving swastikas. What is wrong with these people? They are haters, and they cheer the butchers.