I hate myself, and hate being an atheist.

[Wrangler]

I was at the other Christian Forums, but they banned me because I mentioned a few things that I did not know were against the rules (I won't mention them here as to not risk anything). I am absolutely BOILING angry at them, as they picked a terrible time to do that. There's nothing like seeing someone online, and then just not responding and ghosting you.

My mind is in a panicked, lost and horrified state. I hate myself, and I'm so anxious that I'm constantly woozy. I am 35 and have not been with a woman, because I've been busy with life. I then joined the Sosuave forum, which is - for those who don't know - a super macho redpilled alpha male testosterone cold emotionless forum, but they have constant success with women. That place introduced to me how shallow and one-sided the love world is, which has proven that it may be too late for me.

Just when I get help at the other forum, they decide to ban me, and then not tell me if it's permanent or not because half the planet likes to play the "not reply" game. Seriously, who doesn't do that? Every mod at every forum loves doing that, and you can see when they were last online. I am screaming in my head right now, where is this god? Where is this "heals the broken-hearted" that he does? If he doesn't answer, I might have to escape somewhere, because I can hardly even think.

I lot of passion there, my friend. I can tell you EXACTLY where this God is!

You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.
Jeremiah 29:13

This is the 1st verse I taught my granddaughter. All you have to do is put yourself aside. Difficult for most.

Welcome to the forum. I could share a lot about the red pill.

 

[Cerraco]

God won't force anyone to love Him. Jesus wants all His children to repent, conform to God's standard.

That's fine and all, but what about people who don't live terrible lives, but still don't believe in God? Or maybe they do believe in God, but don't think Jesus is the savior like in Judaism? Still gotta send them to hell? A person is more than their beliefs.

I lied to people. I hurt people. Abused people. Broke laws.
Read ephesians chapter 4 . The heathen can change from within . Put away the old man, and put on the new man.

I'm happy for you. I had a problem with painkillers, a couple of times the withdrawal would make me want to rip my own head off. Imagine if every nerve ending felt the sting of being on fire, while being "electrocuted" while feeling like little insects were eating my insides. It was even worse when people at the ER would just ignore me, and tell me that "It's not that bad" and "you'll be fine, take a Tylenol or something. That'll help!" News flash, it didn't help. I kicked the habit on my own.

That's my life, I had to fix the problems myself. Alone. I had tried to speak to God many times, and guy is a deaf mute, so I'm on my own.

Jesus freed me from powers of darkness.
I saw when I converted to christianity, all the wrong things that had to go.
Why end up in sheol. And on judgement day, be judged by your works, and face destruction.

I think hell should be for people who caused great pain to others, and also created hell in themselves. It shouldn't be for people who simply chose not to believe something. Granted, I don't quite believe in God, but I do believe in Christ (not sure about the supernatural stuff), and greatly admire him.

Jesus wants the heathen to convert to christianity and repentance. Jesus wants you in His kingdom. He wants your love and worship.
Satan is the one who is keeping you Bondage. Satan wants company in lake of fire.

I don't really believe in Satan, but if I believed God existed I don't think Christianity would be right for me. I think some of the Bible is absolutely horrible, and many events in that book do not match history. That book is not a reliable history book.

As servant of God. I'm pleading with you.
Come to the cross, repent and conform to God's standard.

I am a man of logic and science, I need evidence to believe in something. Granted, I know God won't just... show up. But I need something. This is not a slam on your religion, but there are a lot of parts of Christianity that make so little sense it hurts.

Welcome to the forum. I could share a lot about the red pill.

Please do.

 

[Wrangler]

I wanted some tips.

You've come to the right place.

Probably should be a separate thread but forget about the pick up lines. Be true to yourself. Don't try to make yourself out to be what you are not.

When you meet a woman, don't be a SIMP. Vett her. Let her know you are sizing her up but also be light hearted and funny. A great tip comes from the sex goddess, Marilyn Monroe.

If you can get a girl to laugh, you can get her to do anything.

Another tip is be confident in your journey. Own it.

Hope this helps.

 

[Wrangler]

I am a man of logic and science, I need evidence to believe in something. Granted, I know God won't just... show up. But I need something.

I started 2 threads on the evidence to be seen. One of my favorite lines now to atheists is to say that I do not have enough faith to be an atheist.

 

[Matthias]

What exactly is it that you are looking for in conversation with Christians @Cerraco?

 

[Michiah-Imla]

I have to pick this one religion, or I suffer for eternity.

No.

You have to acknowledge and believe in the one true God and in Jesus whom he sent.

 

[Cerraco]

No.

You have to acknowledge and believe in the one true God and in Jesus whom he sent.

Someone better tell those atheists and Jewish people that they're gonna burn for their thought process.

What exactly is it that you are looking for in conversation with Christians @Cerraco?

To find proof of God, and also understand the massive logical contradictions in the Bible. I'm very distressed, and hope that if I can't find anything in life, I can get something in the next one.

 

[Wrangler]

Well gee, looks like I don't really have a choice. I have to pick this one religion, or I suffer for eternity. There goes that "unconditional love" that God supposedly has.

Someone better those atheists and Jewish people that they're gonna burn for their thought process.

I reject the notion of us burning forever in hell, aka ECT Eternal Conscious Torment.

And I agree with you that it goes against the nature of an all loving God. Have you known anyone who had to put down a beloved family pet?

 

[Wrangler]

To find proof of God

Did you read the 2 threads I mentioned; “Evidence To Be Seen?”

 

[Cerraco]

I reject the notion of us burning forever in hell, aka ECT Eternal Conscious Torment.

And I agree with you that it goes against the nature of an all loving God. Have you known anyone who had to put down a beloved family pet?

Yes, and no I haven't read those threads yet.

 

[Matthias]

To find proof of God…

What can they possibly say that you would accept as proof? Is it something different than what the biblical writers say?

… and also understand the massive logical contradictions in the Bible.

Are you able to accept miraculous?

I'm very distressed, and hope that if I can't find anything in life, I can get something in the next one.

There is no next life without the hope of the resurrection.

 

[Cassandra]

Well gee, looks like I don't really have a choice. I have to pick this one religion, or I suffer for eternity. There goes that "unconditional love" that God supposedly has.

No, that's not true. If you could please just close your eyes and ask God to reveal himself to you. Just try it. It may take a bit, but who knows?
That is great that you love Jesus, and right now nobody needs to tell you that you are going to hell. God and Jesus both understand and want to help. Even very hairs of your heard are numbered--can you imagine? You are one of a kind.
It may be that you may start going to church and find someone there. There are alot of good women at church.

And as an aside, Also, My daughterinlaw's sister found the love of her life on match.com. It is worth a try as well.

I have no idea what a redpill is. but if those guys are macho and are just looking to seduce women, the women they are attracting are probably lacking in self confidence. They probably think they found a catch, then he goes away. Too many guys like that.

 

[Cerraco]

No, that's not true. If you could please just close your eyes and ask God to reveal himself to you. Just try it. It may take a bit, but who knows?

I've done that many times, he doesn't tell me anything. This God fellow and I are not on the most solid terms.

That is great that you love Jesus, and right now nobody needs to tell you that you are going to hell. God and Jesus both understand and want to help.
It may be that you may start going to church and find someone there. There are alot of good women at church.

I don't know if my personality type is right for church. I don't know if an atheist-agnostic person would be right for a Christian woman. Even if I did believe in God, I don't know if I'm a church guy.

And as an aside, Also, My daughterinlaw's sister found the love of her life on match.com. It is worth a try as well.

I have no idea what a redpill is. but if those guys are macho and are just looking to seduce women, the women they are attracting are probably lacking in self confidence. They probably think they found a catch, then he goes away. Too many guys like that.

Ehhhhhh, the online dating thing... I don't know... you never know what kind of strange psychos are on there.

Redpilling is like "revealing the world for what it is", it's also about this whole alpha male macho "survival of the fittest" kind of thing, and how you have to play this game to be better than everyone else to attract women. It might be best to give up, given that my insecurities and fears will overpower me. A lot of those guys on the other forum are not that bad, some are alright, some are extremely mean and nasty. Some of them are married. That forum is just an alpha "manosphere" - they have terribly high testosterone so a lot of them are aggressive.

They also kept making fun of my appearance, despite me looking like a 5/6/maybe 7.

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, and no I haven't read those threads yet.

I'm glad you will read those threads.

When people have to put a dog down, it usually tears them apart worse than when people die. As a child, my only uncle with a dog wept unashamedly when he put his dog down. The love to the dog was unreserved. Yet, putting the animal down is the sad, best option - all things considered. That's how I think the end is for evil doers.

Do I think that is the fate of all atheists and non-Christians? No.

Having said that, I appreciate the fact that you are not here just for philosophical (theological) debate but are truly suffering. Let us know how we can pray for you and how we may help you.

 

[strepho]

I didn't say anyone would suffer for eternity.
Documentation. Luke chapter 16, the Richman and Lazarus. Jesus tells us that thier are two sides of the gulf.
One side is paradise
Other side is sheol.

Neither side can cross over.

The righteous in paradise.
The wicked, spirtualty dead in sheol.
Sheol is holding place for the spirtualty dead or wicked.
Until judgement day.

At the end of millennium, is judgement day. The spirtualty dead are judged by their Works.

Those found unworthy, will go into lake of fire with satan.

Those deemed worthy, but Jesus, will get eternal life.

It's fundamental choice.

Those who choose satan, will follow satan into lake of fire.

Those who choose Jesus, will have eternal life.
Documentation, revelation chapter 20.
John chapter 3.
Ezekiel chapter 33.

I wanted to clarify this. Seems to be some misunderstanding here.

God doesn't torture anybody. We have the choice to pick either Jesus or satan.

Those who follow satan, will go into lake of fire, documentation, revelation chapter 20 .

Ezekiel chapter 28 to document, satan is already judged to go into lake of fire. Satan is dead man walking.

Ezekiel chapter 33 to document, that God doesn't have any pleasure in the death of the wicked.

Christianity is not a religion. Being Christian is being christ man. A servant of God.

In Acts chapter 9 , Paul converted to christianity. He became a apostle. A servant of God. Followers of Jesus are Christians.

The word Christian is used 3 times.
Acts chapter 11:26
Acts chapter 26:28
1 Peter chapter 4:16.
I documented this.
Ephesians chapter 2:20 2:22
And are built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the corner stone.

Apostles and prophets are Christian people. They are servants of God.
It's being doers of the word.

Those who are hearers only, are deceiving themselves, James chapter 1 to document. Lip service won't cut it. Get the picture.

Look. God doesn't want to March any of his children into lake of fire with satan. Jesus wants to be thier protection and blessings for them.

Those who reject Jesus as their salvation. Are forcing Jesus to be there judge. Jesus doesn't want to be anyone judge.

Those who reject Jesus and follow satan, are bringing there own sentence on their head.

It's simple to please God.
Accept Jesus as your Lord and salvation.
Repent sins to God and be forgiven.

Again. God doesn't torture anybody.

Those who follow satan into lake of fire, on judgement day, won't exist anymore. Thier blooted out. God doesn't torture anybody.
Documentation, revelation chapter 20.
Psalm chapter 37

I needed to clarify this. I took one last shot at this.

 

[Cerraco]

I didn't say anyone would suffer for eternity.
Documentation. Luke chapter 16, the Richman and Lazarus. Jesus tells us that thier are two sides of the gulf.
One side is paradise
Other side is sheol.

I'd like to think I'm going to paradise. I ain't perfect, but I haven't done anything evil.

Those who choose Jesus, will have eternal life.
Documentation, revelation chapter 20.
John chapter 3.
Ezekiel chapter 33.

I wanted to clarify this. Seems to be some misunderstanding here.

God doesn't torture anybody. We have the choice to pick either Jesus or satan.

Those who follow satan, will go into lake of fire, documentation, revelation chapter 20 .

Well, I don't like Satan, he can eat every fart ever. Not sure God even exists, but I'd side with him. Even if Jesus didn't rise from the dead, I still love the guy. I don't know if that counts.

Apostles and prophets are Christian people. They are servants of God.
It's being doers of the word.

What if someone is atheist and still, by coincidence, does God's will? As in, they've never done that much wrong, haven't sinned that bad, helped the poor and whatnot. Does that still count?

Having said that, I appreciate the fact that you are not here just for philosophical (theological) debate but are truly suffering. Let us know how we can pray for you and how we may help you.

Naaahhh... I don't need that. Pray for the people who need it most. Pray for Africa or the Middle East or something.

My mental philosophy is this. I've been an open-minded atheist for a while, but I think people should do good because you're smart enough to just know you should do good, not because "Oh no! God is watching me!!" I don't think you need to believe in God to have morality. If you don't want something bad done to you, then you're a hypocrite if you do something to someone else, God or not. Right? Because why do you get to something but someone else doesn't? That wouldn't make sense.

 

[Wrangler]

Naaahhh... I don't need that. Pray for the people who need it most. Pray for Africa or the Middle East or something.

God does not love you less because your material needs are less.

And we can pray for all, for the people who need it most and for you.

 

[strepho]

Faith is essential to please God. Without faith, Christian people can't please God, documentation, James chapter 1 .

The key to communicating with God is Faith.
Those who lack faith, are just knocking on wood. God doesn't hear them.

One of Gods 10 commandments, exodus chapter 20.
God won't tolerate idolatry or idol worship.

This is the main reason why God doesn't listen to prayers of some people.
A idol can be anything that comes between you and God.

Like putting church first, and God in second place.
Or to idolize a preacher.
This is idol worship.

God only is to be worshipped.

Idol worship is also, too busy for God. My job is more important. Cant take out 5 minutes out day, to pray to God and repent.
This is self worship.

God has emotions.

How would some parents feel. If thier children only call them once year. And ask for money.

Wont say I love you. No relationship. This is selfish and self centered.

The parents would be hurt by it. The children only come around when they want something. Get the picture.

Idolatry and idol worship is serious sin.
God doesn't want religious fanatics.

Your to love God more than your mother and father.

Anyone who chooses satan on judgement day. Is committing idol worship. God won't tolerate idolatry or idol worship.

Those who are not Christian people are committing idol worship.

A idol can be anything that comes between you and God. Get the picture.

John chapter 3 . The fundamental choice is, either Jesus or satan.
Cant serve two masters at the same time.

On judgement day. Those who choose satan, are commtinmg idol worship and idolatry.

We understand how serious idol worship is. And what the consequences are.
Revelation chapter 20 will document it.

Those who choose satan on judgement, this is there idol worship. It's lake of fire. Revelation chapter 20.

God won't tolerate idolatry or idol worship.

 

[thelord's_pearl]

God teaches perfect love and forgiveness, we are to strive for that and learn it. He also leads us and guides us through the Holy Spirit. He also blesses His children. I love it and feel loved everytime He blesses me and my loved ones. He also helps us in times of trouble. He is there and comforts us. He is also merciful, understanding and compassionate, the great I AM.

 

[Cerraco]

I study a lot of NDEs, and I do so because that's the closest thing of "proof" we can get. Though not ALL stories are that believable. All kinds of people get to see heaven: atheists, Jewish, Muslim, etc. See, now that is how God should be. If you're a good person, you get to see paradise. Beliefs should not matter. It should be about what's inside.

I'd let a charitable and loving atheist into heaven a thousand times, and another hundred times, and another thousand times, before I remotely let a nasty Christian in there. A God who's smarter than me would probably understand that.