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no one is really good apart from God, we become better with God and know perfect love. Wordly people do the wrong things, are lost and broken, sin without a care, God puts in the Holy Spirit so that you'd always care and want to strive to be perfectly good and He wants a relationship with you and has a plan for your life if you'll follow Him and read His Word, the Holy bible.
I've already read those books, and some parts left me horrified and confused.
That isn't the word of the Lord, that's the word of ancient writers assuming that's what the Lord wanted them to write. A lot of that book is also based on mythology and social norms of those times, that would be outdated nowadays. You wanting me to "have a relationship with God" is one thing, but never in a billion lifetimes can I fully agree with that awful, outdated book.
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Ooooooookay..? You're being extremely general about this. What am I missing here, dude? You're making the Bible sound like it's this absolutely flawless book. It is not.
Hmmm. I believe this conversation is going down the wrong track.
Perhaps this is your confession #2? Do you want to talk about:
He might just do that. I admit there are nasty Christians. Jesus said when the time comes, he will say he never knew such folks.
Christian forums are full of Christians arguing with other Christians, all of us trying to reconcile our beliefs. We don't always exercise a good amount of grace towards each other here in an anonymous Internet setting.
I wouldn't say that historically inaccurate verses, God flooding the world because he didn't like humanity but then was like "nvm it's all good now!" in the Noah's Ark story, turning someone's wife into a pillar of salt, sending bears to murder children and helping Samson kill people to pay off a bet are all "flawless" stories. I was painfully confused when you were like "Woah! No way! How could an atheist not be in love with the Bible?!" Because some of that book is based off of older mythology and not facts, and the book is also homophobic and insensitive to a lot of types of people that have done nothing wrong.
Am I happy? Not really. But that was the case whether I was a believer in my younger years and me being atheist in my adult years. But that's just because of life itself. God or not, you still have to do deal with it whether you want to or not.
I have no proof of him. I have called out to him many times in my life. Every problem I had, I was on my own. After that, I started to see a pattern. So... I'm just on my own and it will probably eternally stay that way.
Happiness is one of the lies our fallen world tells. God's plan is much better.
<Sigh> Faith is believing in the absence of proof. Human hubris wants God to reveal himself but that is knowledge, not faith.
I actually agree with this part so much that it physically hurts a little. It's not like God is gonna come down and poke his head through the clouds just for me. If he showed himself, it might even be worse for humanity, because you never know how someone can interpret something. But in the absence of proof, the hypocrisy of many religious people, and the broken logic of the Bible (though I do agree with bits and pieces of the book/Christianity), it's really no wonder that people are atheists.
There is overwhelming proof of God and I referenced 2 threads that delve into the evidence to be seen.
You are not examining your own hypocrisy. Starting with praying to someone you claim does not exist and the double standards of what atheists belief without proof.
I don't think I made that part clear. I'm not saying atheists are these perfect-minded people with solid arguments 100% of the time, what I'm saying is that there are plenty of nasty religious extremists out there that have even killed others just for having different beliefs. It's stuff like that that turn people off of religion even more. Religion was used to "validate" many horrific acts, including momentous events in history. Things like that ruin it for the actual good religious people.
Please consider why this is from YHWH's perspective. Some have said Earth is like a training ground, a place for testing. YHWH wants to have a relationship with his Creation but on his terms. The foundation of this relationship is faith.
