How Jesus has ALREADY Reconciled Us and the World unto God.

[brightfame52]

Never said that. Babies are saved because they are too young to reason and make decisions. Did you not chose Calvinism? You made a choice and it was a bad one.

You also deny that God calls some transgressors from the womb as soon as they are born Isa 48:8

Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.

Ps 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

This is Gods verdict on some babies from the womb,

Yet you elevate them to heaven based upon their own purity. You teach many abominations.

 

[Robert Pate]

You also deny that God calls some transgressors from the womb as soon as they are born Isa 48:8

Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.

Ps 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

This is Gods verdict on some babies from the womb,

Yet you elevate them to heaven based upon their own purity. You teach many abominations.

We are all transgressors from the womb because we have all been born after Adam, Romans 5:12.

You want to believe that God predestinates people to hell before they are born. Because you believe this about God means that you believe God is an unmerciful tyrant. It is not possible to believe what you believe about God and be saved.

 

[brightfame52]

Reconciled unto blamelessness !

All for whom Christ died, by His death alone, even while they were enemies, unbelievers, by nature children of wrath, they even then were by His death reconciled to God Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we[believers] were enemies[unbelievers], we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now, being reconciled to God while enemies, they had the promise of being saved by His Life.

Also they have another promise to look forward to Col 1:21-22

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22 In the body of his flesh through death[Rom 5:10], to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

All those Christ's death alone reconciled to God while they were enemies, they shall all be by that be presented Holy, and Unblameable, and unreprovable in His sight !

If this does not happen to all for whom He died, then His death was an utter failure ! 8

 

[Robert Pate]

Reconciled unto blamelessness !

All for whom Christ died, by His death alone, even while they were enemies, unbelievers, by nature children of wrath, they even then were by His death reconciled to God Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we[believers] were enemies[unbelievers], we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now, being reconciled to God while enemies, they had the promise of being saved by His Life.

Also they have another promise to look forward to Col 1:21-22

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22 In the body of his flesh through death[Rom 5:10], to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

All those Christ's death alone reconciled to God while they were enemies, they shall all be by that be presented Holy, and Unblameable, and unreprovable in His sight !

If this does not happen to all for whom He died, then His death was an utter failure ! 8

In order for you to be a Calvinist you have to deny a lot of scripture.

You have to deny the fact that God loves the world, John 3:16. This one scripture should do it for you, but it doesn't. You have to deny that Jesus is the savior of the world, John 3:17. You have to deny that Jesus has reconciled the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19. You have to deny that Jesus has provided salvation for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. You have to deny that salvation is by grace through faith, Ephesians 2:8. You have to deny that whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved, Romans 10:13.

 

[brightfame52]

In order for you to be a Calvinist you have to deny a lot of scripture.

You have to deny the fact that God loves the world, John 3:16. This one scripture should do it for you, but it doesn't. You have to deny that Jesus is the savior of the world, John 3:17. You have to deny that Jesus has reconciled the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19. You have to deny that Jesus has provided salvation for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. You have to deny that salvation is by grace through faith, Ephesians 2:8. You have to deny that whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved, Romans 10:13.

You believe Christs Death was a failure. How can someone He died for, reconciled to God, saved them by His Life, die in their sins in unbelief ?

 

[Robert Pate]

You believe Christs Death was a failure. How can someone He died for, reconciled to God, saved them by His Life, die in their sins in unbelief ?

Because like you they don't believe that Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil and now sits in heaven as "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16.

 

[brightfame52]

Because like you they don't believe that Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil and now sits in heaven as "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16.

Again,

How can someone He died for, reconciled to God, saved them by His Life, die in their sins in unbelief ?

 

[Robert Pate]

Again,

How can someone He died for, reconciled to God, saved them by His Life, die in their sins in unbelief ?

Because Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil so that "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

 

[brightfame52]

Because Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil so that "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

Again,

How can someone He died for, reconciled to God, saved them by His Life, die in their sins in unbelief ?

 

[Robert Pate]

Again,

How can someone He died for, reconciled to God, saved them by His Life, die in their sins in unbelief ?

Because, like you, they have rejected God's great free gift of salvation. "For by grace (God's goodness) are you saved through faith; and not that of yourselves: IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD" Ephesians 2:8.

 

[brightfame52]

Because, like you, they have rejected God's great free gift of salvation. "For by grace (God's goodness) are you saved through faith; and not that of yourselves: IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD" Ephesians 2:8.

Thats not possible, Christ died for their sins, for their unbelief, for their rejection of God. They were reconciled to God while they were unbelieving enemies rejecting God and hating God. Being reconciled to God is the Gift of God

 

[Robert Pate]

Thats not possible, Christ died for their sins, for their unbelief, for their rejection of God. They were reconciled to God while they were unbelieving enemies rejecting God and hating God. Being reconciled to God is the Gift of God

You are full of heresies and unbelief. You can't quote scripture; you only quote what you think the scripture says.

"And you, that were sometimes enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now has he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreprovable in his sight" Colossians 1:21-22.

 

[brightfame52]

Those reconciled while enemies shall be saved by His life !


Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

The antichrist folks attempt to distort this blessed Truth of this verse, however they shall be proven liars and inconsistent every time. The Truths here are most gracious, and cannot be received by the natural mind of man, to give credence to 1 Cor 2:14

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

This verse condemns all who falsely believes that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception, the only way that could be true according to the Truth in this verse, one would have to become an Universalist, which is also a condemned belief !

Now here's how and why. Paul here is writing to believers, however he states of them, including himself, that even while they were enemies, unbelievers, they were reconciled to God by the death of His Son ! Now to be reconciled to God is to be saved from the penalty of your sins, and to be received into the favor of God. Its the word katallassō and means:

I.to change, exchange, as coins for others of equivalent value
A.
to reconcile (those who are at variance)

B.
return to favour with, be reconciled to one

C.
to receive one into favour

They are not now in a condemned state before God, but yet they are still enemies !

Now, what is said / promised of those who are reconciled while yet being enemies according to this verse : Notice Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled [while enemies], we shall be saved by his life.

Understand, those already reconciled while being enemies, much more being reconciled, the Promise to them is that they shall be saved by His Life !

There it is, if Christ died for all without exception, and they were reconciled, then the promise of scripture is that they shall be [ A Divine Promise] saved by His Life !

Now, does the bible teach anywhere that all without exception shall be saved by Christ's Life ? The answer is absolutely no !

 

[brightfame52]

You are full of heresies and unbelief. You can't quote scripture; you only quote what you think the scripture says.

"And you, that were sometimes enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now has he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreprovable in his sight" Colossians 1:21-22.

Its not possible for someone Christ died for and reconciled to God, to die in unbelief and in their sins. When they are reconciled to God they are given faith to believe in Christ, else you deny they were reconciled to God by His death.

 

[JBO]

Its not possible for someone Christ died for and reconciled to God, to die in unbelief and in their sins. When they are reconciled to God they are given faith to believe in Christ, else you deny they were reconciled to God by His death.

The phrase, "faith to believe", is an oxymoron. Belief in God is faith. To believe in God is to have faith. Faith and Belief are the exact same words in Greek.

 

[Robert Pate]

Its not possible for someone Christ died for and reconciled to God, to die in unbelief and in their sins. When they are reconciled to God they are given faith to believe in Christ, else you deny they were reconciled to God by His death.

Faith is only given to those that hear and believe the Gospel. "So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God (which is the Gospel) Romans 10:17.

"For you are all the children of God by faith in Jesus Christ" Galatians 3:26.

"This only would I learn of you; did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law (because you did something) or by the hearing of faith? (hearing and believing the Gospel) Galatians 3:2.

 

[Ritajanice]

Faith is only given to those that hear and believe the Gospel. "So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God (which is the Gospel) Romans 10:17.

"For you are all the children of God by faith in Jesus Christ" Galatians 3:26.

"This only would I learn of you; did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law (because you did something) or by the hearing of faith? (hearing and believing the Gospel) Galatians 3:2.

We are given faith when we have been Born Again of imperishable seed, Faith is a gift from God that can move mountains...

Without the Spirit there is no faith only human faith...we are none of his without the the Spirit of God.

Belief is not the same as God given Faith...we must believe in Jesus first...even then God brings us to believe and no, I didn’t say he believes for us..I say we are brought to believe in Jesus by the Holy Spirit..
Faith is a manifestation of the Spirit, as we see here in Gods word.

We can then walk in the Spirit as we have been Born Again of imperishable seed.....it takes years and years to understand the teachings from the Spirit of Gods seed....as me mature in Christ...our Faith gets so strong it can move mountains.....there is Nothing that God cannot do!.....

Plus it’s given to Glorify God..not ourselves.....we hear amazing testimonies from others, on how God has performed amazing acts, but, it’s all done in his name...not ours...we are empty vessels without the Spirit.

◄ 1 Corinthians 12 ►

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King James Bible Par ▾ Spiritual Gifts Bestowed 1Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. 3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 4Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

 

[Behold]

"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God

This FAITH is the hearer releasing faith in Christ, from their Heart, after they heard the Gospel as TRUE.

This is called "Believing'.

This is not Calvin's Sick Theology that teaches that God rams faith down the Throat of a "pre-destined" elect, no matter what.

 

[Ritajanice]

Its not possible for someone Christ died for and reconciled to God, to die in unbelief and in their sins. When they are reconciled to God they are given faith to believe in Christ, else you deny they were reconciled to God by His death.

Amen!!

 

[JBO]

Its not possible for someone Christ died for and reconciled to God, to die in unbelief and in their sins. When they are reconciled to God they are given faith to believe in Christ, else you deny they were reconciled to God by His death.

Faith is not a gift! ! ! ! !

Faith in God is no different than faith in anything else. You become convinced of the truth through what you hear about it. And you are so convinced in it that you place your trust in it. I believe in God in the same way that I believe in gravity. I am convinced of the truth of gravity through experiencing the effcts of it. I believe in God through hearing (reading) what He has done.

Faith IS believing in God, in Christ, in the Gospel.