Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

[St. SteVen]

I've never heard of a church who has denied a homosexual a seat in their church to hear the Gospel.

Tell that to a homosexual if you want them to laugh in your face.
They know you hate them. Too late to claim otherwise.

--- PARODY ---

Church Greeter: Welcome to church!
Church Visitor: Thanks, my first time here.
Church Greeter: Great, we are glad you are here. One question...
Church Visitor: Uh, okay. What is it?
Church Greeter: Are you LGBTQIA+ ?
Church Visitor: Um... that's not one thing, that's at least seven things. ???
Church Greeter: We just ask that you leave that at the door when you enter this holy place.
Church Visitor: Seriously?
Church Greeter: Yes, the Bible tells us that those things are evil, we want no evil here.
Church Visitor: You do know that there is a HUGE difference between LGBQ and TIA, right?
Church Greeter: Nope, all one thing to us. Sinful, very sinful.
Church Visitor: You can argue that LGBQ is not genetic, but clearly TIA are genetic.
Church Greeter: Sorry, I'm not studied in these things.
Church Visitor: Obviously.
Church Greeter: Are you LGBTQIA+, or not?
Church Visitor: I'm pretty sure this isn't going to work. Goodbye.

Indeed. What's wrong with this picture?

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[St. SteVen]

This issue is exceedingly simple to understand--these people pretending not to understand want to give the impression there is obscurity as a front to smuggle sodomy into Christianity.

Nope, not happening!

How should the church respond to these facts?

- There is a 40% suicide rate among gays, which is driven by societal rejection. (genocide)
- Parental testimony shows children indicating a transgender preference as early as 3 to 5 years old.
- 1 in 1,500 children are born intersex, meaning either both, or ambiguous genitalia.
- Birth sex is determined by what is between your legs; gender identity is determined by what is between your ears.
- Christian gays that come out are at risk of losing family, friends, church, employment, housing...
- Many gay couples are monogamous, and great contributors to our society.

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[St. SteVen]

Homosexuals, like any other sinner are free to sit in any pew in America and hear the Word of God preached.

Feel the love.

All churches are very welcoming of sinners, sharing the Gospel is our mission on earth.

That would look good on the church sign.

--- SINNERS WELCOME ---

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[Hazelelponi]

They know you hate them

They are only lying to themselves if they think that.

Christians actually love them enough to tell them the Truth, and Jesus loves them enough to have died for them.

But Christ saves us out of sin... Not into it, all men were born in sin, Christ saves us out of it..

 

[GracePeace]

How should the church respond to these facts?

- There is a 40% suicide rate among gays, which is driven by societal rejection. (genocide)
- Parental testimony shows children indicating a transgender preference as early as 3 to 5 years old.
- 1 in 1,500 children are born intersex, meaning either both, or ambiguous genitalia.
- Birth sex is determined by what is between your legs; gender identity is determined by what is between your ears.
- Christian gays that come out are at risk of losing family, friends, church, employment, housing...
- Many gay couples are monogamous, and great contributors to our society.

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See? It's exactly as I said--he wants to smuggle homosexuality into Christianity!

Just as everything else I've said is true.

When Christians were "rejected" by society, in ancient Rome, they didn't commit suicide, because their consciences were clear, because they weren't committing abominations.
The gays' consciences testify against them, that's why they crave everyone else's approval--to try to convince themselves of what can never be true (that what they do is acceptable). Their own thoughts reject them.

The devil gets the gays to commit abominations, which their consciences condemn them for, then, when the Church tells them, "Jesus can save you from your self destructive behavior the devil has you trapped in," somehow that's the Church's fault?
NONSENSE!
We are at fault for NOTHING other than being too "tolerant"! We ought never to have allowed things to get this far, and we need to learn from our past mistakes and restore the previous order.

The Word of God will never change, no matter how many sob stories you bring. No emotion will ever change God's Word. God loves all--that's why He gave His Son for their sins, so that if they acknowledge their sin and repent they can have life, but you insist Sodomites aren't sinning at all, so you don't give them a chance to repent.

 

[BarneyFife]

From my perspective, the church takes a militant view.
We even picket PRIDE parades.

I think it's a mistake to reduce 'the church' to its lowest common denominator.


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[Hazelelponi]

The gays' consciences testify against them, that's why they crave everyone else's approval--to try to convince themselves of what can never be true (that what they do is acceptable). Their own thoughts reject them.

You know it's probably odd to say, but I never thought of it this way. .

But it's probably more true than any of us realize...

Good thoughts sister!

 

[Red Baker]

Sodomy is an abomination in the sight of God, period. Sodomy is against nature, whereas, adultery is not, even though a wicked sin, and must be avoided.

That being said, it is a sin that can be forgiven, I personally have have spoken to a sodomite who asked to talk to me about his soul knowing that he was dying, which he did only seven hours after I spoke to him.

It went much like this:

I want to be saved, knowing that I have sinned against God~I said Rory, I do not have any magical words to speak to you to get you born again, that's is outside of my power to do, but what I can do is help you with a few questions and then some words of encouragements, to help you know if God will be merciful to you.

I proceeded by asking him if God healed you and brought your soul back from the point of death would you continue to live as you have lived in the past? He humbly said he would depart from his sins yet he would want to keep his friend as friends~I told him he must not only be willing to depart from his sins, but his sodomites friend as well, and he said I will then.

I proceeded to informed him that if God has shown mercy to him neither I or any man can take that from him, and told him if he truly desire God's mercy then God had put that in his heart and that if that was truly his heart desire, then he would wake up in God's presence, forever be with him.

I truly believe if if there are deathbed salvation experience ( and there are...the thief on the cross ) of God showing mercy, then he was one of them.

 

[St. SteVen]

When Christians were "rejected" by society, in ancient Rome, they didn't commit suicide, because their consciences were clear, because they weren't committing abominations.

LOL
How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Clear conscience = no sin.

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[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
From my perspective, the church takes a militant view.
We even picket PRIDE parades.

I think it's a mistake to reduce 'the church' to its lowest common denominator.


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I'm glad that we can assign picketing PRIDE parades as the lowest common denominator.

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[St. SteVen]

Sodomy is an abomination in the sight of God, period. Sodomy is against nature, whereas, adultery is not, even though a wicked sin, and must be avoided.

If you found out that a member of your family was gay, how would you treat them?

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[Red Baker]

If you found out that a member of your family was gay, how would you treat them?

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Sodomy is in every family on this earth, directly or indirectly.

Also, there are sins worse than sodomy...

Matthew 11:23​

“And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.”

Now, to answer your question: The person mentioned above in my post was my brother-in-law.

You still love them~but hate their life style, and never go along with it.

 

[St. SteVen]

Now, to answer your question: The person mentioned above in my post was my brother-in-law.

You still love them~but hate their life style, and never go along with it.

Okay, thanks.

Are you two growing closer, or farther apart?

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[GracePeace]

You know it's probably odd to say, but I never thought of it this way. .

But it's probably more true than any of us realize...

Good thoughts sister!

*brother

 

[GracePeace]

LOL
How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Clear conscience = no sin.

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The Christians had the internal fortitude that having a clear conscience affords.
How do I know Christians have a clear conscience?
Peter tells you: "water baptism is an appeal to God for a clear conscience".
You don't think God cleanses the conscience through baptism?
Paul also said, "my conscience is clear" because his lifestyle was righteous.

How do I know gays have defiled and/or seared consciences?
Take a wild guess.

 

[St. SteVen]

The Christians had the internal fortitude that having a clear conscience affords.
How do I know Christians have a clear conscience?
Peter tells you: "water baptism is an appeal to God for a clear conscience".
You don't think God cleanses the conscience through baptism?
Paul also said, "my conscience is clear" because his lifestyle was righteous.

How do I know gays have defiled and/or seared consciences?
Take a wild guess.

This is the post I was responding to.

When Christians were "rejected" by society, in ancient Rome, they didn't commit suicide, because their consciences were clear, because they weren't committing abominations.

How did you arrive at that conclusion? Their consciences were clear? Clear conscience = no sin

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[GracePeace]

This is the post I was responding to.

How did you arrive at that conclusion? Their consciences were clear? Clear conscience = no sin

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You're obviously unacquainted with, and uninterested in, Christianity--I tried explaining it to you, you brushed it off. Again, you're here for one reason, and one reason only: you're not here to discuss anything, you're here to try to cause Christians to accept sodomy. You're not open to the facts.

 

[MrNoir]

How do I know gays have defiled and/or seared consciences?
Take a wild guess.

Simply put, you don't know.

 

[Red Baker]

Okay, thanks.

Are you two growing closer, or farther apart?

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He is the one that died~read my post.

 

[MrNoir]

They are only lying to themselves if they think that.

Christians actually love them enough to tell them the Truth, and Jesus loves them enough to have died for them.

But Christ saves us out of sin... Not into it, all men were born in sin, Christ saves us out of it..

If your "love" causes people to fear for their safety or makes people want to en their lives....it isn't love.