Tucker Carlson in Moscow to interview Vladimir Putin

[Taken]

I take it you didn’t learn anything?

American History and Government dealings are not taught in American schools, and neither is World History which would include Russia.
Coupled with the modern “cancel of historical facts” AND “insistence on an Instant solution without the background facts” is NOT SURPRISING some people neither have the patience to pay attention to what was said in the interview or it’s significance.

Russia has had a centuries Long Political, Governing, Cultural, Language, Trade, etc. relationship with Ukraine, without world interference.
Haphazard Deals were made with “other” governments, not upheld, sabotaged, “some” instigated by “unconstitutional” US agencies, acting on the down-low, under-cover, and stamped per usual top secret.

Neither Russia nor Ukraine are NATO members. Yet…the US Taxpayer is on the hook for Billions to Fund the Ukraine fiasco, while the US Border is in a Chaotic free for all mess and threat to the security of Americans.
And the PIPELINE destruction and damage?
Uh, sure, pfft…either Russian or Ukrainian People would be advantaged for that mess?
Pfff

Joe B…not news. Just Bonkers.
DC…….not news. District of Corruption.
CIA…...not news. Creeps In Action.
FBI…….not news. Foreign Base Instigators.

Disgusting!

 

[Wrangler]

Who suggested they are innocent

I guess you have not paid attention to this thread.

Putin invaded a country that did nothing wrong.

 

[Marymog]

I guess you have not paid attention to this thread.

Ummm.....I guess it's a word game then. I asked who suggested they were innocent. You then quote Saint of light as saying they did nothing wrong.

Sooooo I get your point.....I digress.

 

[Wrangler]

Ummm.....I guess it's a word game then. I asked who suggested they were innocent. You then quote Saint of light as saying they did nothing wrong.

Sooooo I get your point.....I digress.

Word games?! What a shame our generation lacks moral clarity.

Let me say it again. I am on the record opposed to war with Russia.

If these 2 dictatorships want to fight, let them. It is not in our national security interest to intervene. In fact, intervening threatens our national security on a number of fronts.

It's not semantics! Wake up people.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

He doesn't know damnation is in scripture.

Another one in favor of foul language!

One does not get dammed for telling "christians" that using filthy language is sinful.

Riiight. Someone is a tad self-righteous. I wonder whom it could be?

Yeah, you got to be careful with those potty mouth peoples... they definitely think they are entitled

He feels wronged by the West-- who promised not to expand NATO, then did just that. He felt threated by the intent to expand again into Ukraine.

This is of course the match that lit the current firestorm

You do like your Appeal to Strawman

Yeah, anybody that disagrees with you is doing the dreaded strawman thing.

 

[Nancy]

So sorry but, if this constant, immature, name calling continues, I will simply shut down this thread.
One more report is all it will take.
Thank you.

 

[Mr E]

So sorry but, if this constant, immature, name calling continues, I will simply shut down this thread.
One more report is all it will take.
Thank you.

How about removing the bad actors, rather than closing a thread? As a Mod you have that option.

If you don't know how to restrict someone's access to a particular thread, just ask me and I'll explain it to you. Any Mod who has the required permissions granted to them can do this. If you don't have those permissions- you should ask Admin for them.... it's a basic function.

 

[Mr E]

The story you've been sold by Biden, the mainstream media-- worldwide and the globalists is this>>>

Vladimir Putin woke up one morning and decided to invade Ukraine and commit unspeakable acts of evil on his closest neighbor.

He's either a sadist or simply insane. It was entirely unprovoked.

--And so the US has pledged unlimited amounts of money and massive quantities of it's most sophisticated weapons to stopping him.


--That's the narrative.... As much as it takes, for as long as it takes, as the saying goes.


It's a lie. And it, in and of itself-- is insane.

 

[Nancy]

How about removing the bad actors, rather than closing a thread? As a Mod you have that option.

If you don't know how to restrict someone's access to a particular thread, just ask me and I'll explain it to you. Any Mod who has the required permissions granted to them can do this. If you don't have those permissions- you should ask Admin for them.... it's a basic function.

Yes I can, but would much rather start with a warning, and that only written, no points given. And yes I know it is a basic function and you please stay out of my business, thank you.

 

[Mr E]

Yes I can, but would much rather start with a warning, and that only written, no points given. And yes I know it is a basic function and you please stay out of my business, thank you.

Nippy outside, snippy in here this moring.

You're in my thread, actually.

 

[Mr E]

Putin invaded Ukraine after the US rejected his demand to guarantee that the Ukraine would not be joining NATO.

That's the truth.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Nippy outside, snippy in here this moring.

You're in my thread, actually.

The difference is... she's a staff member and you are not!

Putin invaded Ukraine after the US rejected his demand to guarantee that the Ukraine would not be joining NATO.

That's the truth.

Yep, and when Russia put nukes in Cuba back in the day... we were willing to have WW3 over that issue.

The US does not allow other countries to look after their own interests the way we do which is being a hypocrite

If Trump gets in, He'll tell Russia they can keep the Russian speaking areas of Ukraine and the US will not back Ukraine from becoming a NATO member and they will end the war.

And latter if we get another liberal leftist prez... Russia will be ready to start up the war again if need be.

 

[lforrest]

The difference is... she's a staff member and you are not! View attachment 41635




Yep, and when Russia put nukes in Cuba back in the day... we were willing to have WW3 over that issue.

The US does not allow other countries to look after their own interests the way we do which is being a hypocrite

If Trump gets in, He'll tell Russia they can keep the Russian speaking areas of Ukraine and the US will not back Ukraine from becoming a NATO member and they will end the war.

And latter if we get another liberal leftist prez... Russia will be ready to start up the war again if need be.

Don't you think Zelensky has evidence of corruption and even crimes against humanity in the development of biological weapons taking place in Ukraine? Surely he has given an ultimatum, if I'm going down I'm taking the rest of you with me.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Don't you think Zelensky has evidence of corruption and even crimes against humanity in the development of biological weapons taking place in Ukraine? Surely he has given an ultimatum, if I'm going down I'm taking the rest of you with me.

Very good point!

I remember hearing about the US funding some illicit weapons development that if the rest of the world found out about it would make the US look really bad as we were in violation of international laws we signed treaties to not violate.

They probably have proof of payments going to the big guy too
So China is blackmailing us and Zelensky is too!

 

[Mr E]

The difference is... she's a staff member and you are not!

The 'thing' is---- she was talking about you.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The 'thing' is---- she was talking about you.

And she was telling you to not get in her bidness!

I was just telling this other guy that cussing is not something Christians should be doing

It's odd that I'm hearing more and more "christians" these days using foul, filthy language.

Maybe they were in the Navy and they started cussing like sailors

 

[Lizbeth]

Another lie. Please stop lying. I have never said or suggested that there is really no justification for war.

No, you are not going to flip the script kiddo. You are dodging questions. You like to do that. Nice try. You also like to partially quote me so you don't have to answer questions. Let's try again. You answer my question and then I will answer yours:

According to your argument there is a "justification for war" with any country that has some Nazi's and corruption. How about a Fascistic country that has corruption? Ripe for invasion?

Patient Mary

I think the point is that if Ukraine is a semi-fascist and deeply corrupt country, it is not so innocent after all and raises the question as to why the west would be obligated to interfere there.

 

[Mr E]

I think the point is that if Ukraine is a semi-fascist and deeply corrupt country, it is not so innocent after all and raises the question as to why the west would be obligated to interfere there.

It wasn't interfering... It was provoking.

One month into the conflict-- This is what the Biden Admin said--

“While much remains to be done to ensure the safety of Ukrainians — including LGBTQ+ Ukrainians — fleeing the Russian invasion, these actions from the Biden-Harris administration are welcome steps in the right direction,” “While all Ukrainians are deeply affected by the Russian war of aggression, LGBTQ+ people are especially vulnerable because of the disproportionate impact that humanitarian crises and conflict have on already marginalized groups.

And Putin is actually standing up against Biden in ways that you might agree with.

Putin is standing up against progressive immorality.

 

[Mr E]

These people are evil and insane.

 

[Mr E]

I think the point is that if Ukraine is a semi-fascist and deeply corrupt country, it is not so innocent after all and raises the question as to why the west would be obligated to interfere there.

BTW-- Way to go Canada.

$60 Million Canadian Tax Dollars to ensure the killing continues. F-16 Supplies and equipment... kill em all.