Drinking Alcohol, should a Christian do it?

[BarneyFife]

NOW being DRUNK IS SIN and it must never once be overlooked . but moderation . nope , not sin . HOWEVER
it is sin to those who think it to be sin .

Aren't you glad that "all-inclusive love" is sin to everyone, and not only to those who think it to be sin?

You kill me, Amigo.

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[Wrangler]

but moderation . nope , not sin . HOWEVER
it is sin to those who think it to be sin . PLus if anyone has any or has had any problem with alcohol , addiction etc
MY ADVICE IS DONT TOUCH IT .

Agreed. Same thing with gluten allergy. If eating the bread of communion causes an allergic reaction, make a gluten free substitute.

It's not the inanimate object is evil or partaking of an inanimate object is evil, in and of itself. God made weed. God allowed the chemistry of fermentation and commanded and encouraged us to partake of alcohol on numerous occassions - but never to the point of intoxication.

It's the same thing with being a glutton. Eating is not a sin. Over-eating is a sin. The 7 Deadly Habits are not about consumption but over-indulgence. God invented sex but lust is an excess of the blessing. Therefore, sex is not a sin, lust or excess indulgence is a sin, etc.

 

[BarneyFife]

Alcohol: Tale of a Toxin. Is It Good for Us?

A look at alcohol through the lens of threat physiology.

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[amigo de christo]

Aren't you glad that "all-inclusive love" is sin to everyone, and not only to those who think it to be sin?

You kill me, Amigo.

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Cause sin is sin . ellen white got some things wrong my friend . But barney white cannot see it .
you married the wrong white my friend . She and others twisted some things .

 

[Taken]

Christians can smoke weed too if they do it in moderation then.

My Positions is;
“IF” an individual heartfully Believes IN and Lord God AND heartfully has Confessed his Belief IN the Lord God… He “IS” Saved. Period.

DOES…Drinking, smoking, eating to much, dancing, blah, blah….somehow CHANGE an individuals “Saved condition” ? No.

Scripture simply teaches, (particularly for saved, born again individuals), God desires such individuals, by example, to be “Gods representative on Earth”… How?
By… speaking the word of God, that others may hear.
By… precepts, (which is behaviors between and among men), that such behaviors Glorify God.

Does everything a man does 24-7 Glorify God? Uh, no.

Men are more critical and judgemental than God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[amigo de christo]

My Positions is;
“IF” an individual heartfully Believes IN and Lord God AND heartfully has Confessed his Belief IN the Lord God… He “IS” Saved. Period.

DOES…Drinking, smoking, eating to much, dancing, blah, blah….somehow CHANGE an individuals “Saved condition” ? No.

Scripture simply teaches, (particularly for saved, born again individuals), God desires such individuals, by example, to be “Gods representative on Earth”… How?
By… speaking the word of God, that others may hear.
By… precepts, (which is behaviors between and among men), that such behaviors Glorify God.

Does everything a man does 24-7 Glorify God? Uh, no.

Men are more critical and judgemental than God.

Glory to God,
Taken

You might want to reconsider something .
cause anyone can use this for an excuse .
example . I once lived in sin , justified my sins , but too could claim i believed in JESUS CHRIST .
I could even and did even quoate the gospel to an atheist .
Scary thing was , had we died that night , the atheist wasnt gonna be the only awaiting damnation .
Me thinks we might want to read us some more bible and pay close heed to ALL things JESUS and the apostels left .
Its true men can appear much more critical and judgmental , but so too they often say this
about those who correct THEIR SINS , yall judgmental , yall condmers , judge not , God is love
THEY say , as they hold up A RAINBOW FLAG and holler to all religions YE ARE FINE as is , NO NEED to believe on JESUS
lets just LOVE LOVE LOVE . THEY DONT KNOW JESUS , THEY DONT KNOW GOD , but THEY THINK THEY DO .

 

[BarneyFife]

Cause sin is sin .

Unless it's the special kind that's only sin if we think it to be sin?

ellen white got some things wrong my friend . But barney white cannot see it .
you married the wrong white my friend . She and others twisted some things .

You use the word "friend" a lot.

You know, that's not really necessary when you're actually being friendly.

Merry Christmas, Amigo.

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[BarneyFife]

Effects of Alcohol on the Body

What happens to your body after you take your first sip of alcohol? Learn the effects of drinking on your body and mental well-being.

www.healthline.com

 

[BarneyFife]

It's the same thing with being a glutton. Eating is not a sin. Over-eating is a sin.

There's a short list of things human beings need to survive: Food is on the list; wine (fermented or not) isn't.

You can eat without becoming a glutton but you can't take a sip of fermented wine without ingesting poison.

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[bluedragon]

The curious part of all this. In that day, wedding celebrations were days in length. The host started with fine wine. As the guests got drunker, the wine quality diminished. When Jesus is at a wedding party, Mary comes to tell Jesus about the host running out of wine.
Jesus performs his first miracle .....the guests are amazed .....after all instead of lesser quality wine ......this was by far a superior wine. The first miracle ....The finest of wine ....

 

[Taken]

You might want to reconsider something .
cause anyone can use this for an excuse .
example . I once lived in sin , justified my sins , but too could claim i believed in JESUS CHRIST .
I could even and did even quoate the gospel to an atheist .
Scary thing was , had we died that night , the atheist wasnt gonna be the only awaiting damnation .
Me thinks we might want to read us some more bible and pay close heed to ALL things JESUS and the apostels left .
Its true men can appear much more critical and judgmental , but so too they often say this
about those who correct THEIR SINS , yall judgmental , yall condmers , judge not , God is love
THEY say , as they hold up A RAINBOW FLAG and holler to all religions YE ARE FINE as is , NO NEED to believe on JESUS
lets just LOVE LOVE LOVE . THEY DONT KNOW JESUS , THEY DONT KNOW GOD , but THEY THINK THEY DO .

I believe all humans are naturally born IN sin, And that SIN Against God is (true heartful un-belief in the Lord God)… I heard, I read, I learned and According to Gods Offering and Gods Way, I freely agreed to Accept Gods Offering to establish and have a once and forever one on one relationship with the Lord God.

I do not advocate immoral, ungodly, behavior or causing suffering between and among men. Nor do I believe men SIN Against men or men have the authority to forgive sin.

No, as you imply….I do not make an others decisions or choices or excuses, or assume responsibility for an other’s decisions, choices or excuses.

The Lord leaves no guesswork, either a man can believe and “hope” he does not fall away, that he Become saved “at the time” of his physical bodily death,
OR
a man can Believe, Confess his Belief, Give his bodily life crucified with Christ Jesus, and become saved “right then”, For ever…(which is that mans “reasonable Service”)….and such man CAN thereafter….do “additional” service works that Glorify God…and When the Lord returns He shall “pay His debt” with “rewards” FOR their “service works” that DID Glorify God.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Nonsense. Trying to change the definition. Also, the Bible only warns against over drinking because it had alcohol in it and why Jesus was accused of being a drunk - it was known he drank alcohol in the form of wine. Luke 7:34.

I read where Jesus was a Nazarite meaning like John the Baptist He had taken a view to NOT drink strong drink.. if Jesus drank alcohol that means He mad a solemn vow and then broke it which would have been a sin because it's being dishonest.

You wouldn't be claiming Jesus committed a sin would you?

 

[Lambano]

Drinking Alcohol, should a Christian do it?​

Hmm. That would explain some of these weird posts...

But maybe it might mellow things out around here...

Nah. Some of you guys are probably mean drunks.

 

[BarneyFife]

I read where Jesus was a Nazarite meaning like John the Baptist He had taken a view to NOT drink strong drink.. if Jesus drank alcohol that means He mad a solemn vow and then broke it which would have been a sin because it's being dishonest.

You wouldn't be claiming Jesus committed a sin would you?

Christ was a Nazarene—not a Nazarite. He partook of fresh grape juice at the Last Supper, which would have been vow-breaking to a Nazarite.

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[Wrangler]

I read where Jesus was a Nazarite meaning like John the Baptist He had taken a view to NOT drink strong drink..

I’ve heard this too. It is not in the Bible.

In the NRSV Cultural Bible, it elaborates on Paul’s Nazarite vow. Typically, this was for a season not lifetime.

You wouldn't be claiming Jesus committed a sin would you?

No. I’m claiming drinking alcohol is not a sin and have offered many proofs.

 

[amigo de christo]

I’ve heard this too. It is not in the Bible.

In the NRSV Cultural Bible, it elaborates on Paul’s Nazarite vow. Typically, this was for a season not lifetime.


No. I’m claiming drinking alcohol is not a sin and have offered many proofs.

It is not in the bible , but this is .
For john came unto you abstaining from meats and drinking no wine and ye .............
The son of man came eating and drinking and ye say behold a glutton and a wine bibber .
Either way they did not listen . But you do see a stark difference on that note .
JESUS said this himself . remember . then he says BUT WISDOM is justified of her children .
Make no mistake , however , JESUS was not a drunkard at all .
But made mention of the fact JOHN was abstaining from meats and drinks and THEY accused john
JESUS came eating and drinking and they too accused him . The point . THEY GONNA MAKE excuse to not
hear the wisdom of GOD and find fault with any who do preach it .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Christ was a Nazarene—not a Nazarite. He partook of fresh grape juice at the Last Supper, which would have been vow-breaking to a Nazarite.

If someone make a promise, a vow and then breaks it, they have broken their word which would be a sin.

If someone is a Nazarene then they would be doing the vows to become as a Nazartite, otherwise they are not actually a Nazarene. This is a foolish explanation.

Something is fishy about this since Jesus was perfect and never committed any sins.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Not that anybody cares, but I'm not drinking alcohol anymore now that I have become convinced that osas is a scam and the girl friend is gone as well.

 

[O'Darby]

And malt does more than Milton can​

To justify God's ways to man.​

Ale, man, ale's the stuff to drink​

For fellows whom it hurts to think:​

- A. E. Housman, A Shropshire Lad​

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(Milton was the author of the epic poem Paradise Lost.)

I would find these forums intolerable without a couple of bottles of Guinness Stout to prop me up.

 

[RedFan]

And malt does more than Milton can​

To justify God's ways to man.​

Ale, man, ale's the stuff to drink​

For fellows whom it hurts to think:​

- A. E. Housman, A Shropshire Lad​

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Milton was the author of the epic poem Paradise Lost.

when any mortal (even the most odd)
can justify the ways of man to God
i'll think it strange that normal mortals can
not justify the ways of God to man

-- e e cummings