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[St. SteVen]

We can lose our salvation. Its possible to be saved at one point but lose that salvation, although i will admit this is rare. Some people meet the qualities of someone saved but are explained in the parable of the seeds According to Jesus. The main thing is someone saved can lose salvation when they spiritually give in to hostility and temptations of the world. True salvation is intention based not based particular on ideals.

Welcome to the forum. Here's my position if you haven't read it yet.

We cannot by an act of our own will undo what only God could do in the first place.
Even in the case of reprobation it is God's choice. And the Good Shepherd goes after the lost sheep to bring them back.

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[Jack]

Hell will be FILLED with those who don't believe in the "EVERLASTING fire" that Jesus warned us about!

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Satan LOVES it when his messengers convince people that there is no everlasting Hell Fire!

 

[Hillsage]

Hell will be FILLED with those who don't believe in the "EVERLASTING fire" that Jesus warned us about!

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Satan LOVES it when his messengers convince people that there is no everlasting Hell Fire!

I'm sorry read that verse REAL SLOW. Where does it say Hell was made for MAN. It says it was made for the DEVIL and HIS ANGELS. Your interpretation means God forgot what he had made it for almost ALL of His human creation.

I think SATAN LOVES it when most of the Church reads this verse, and think it means just what you believe.

 

[Jack]

I'm sorry read that verse REAL SLOW. Where does it say Hell was made for MAN.

It doesn't. But Jesus clearly will say to HUMANS,

Matthew 25:41 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

It says it was made for the DEVIL and HIS ANGELS. Your interpretation means God forgot what he had made it for almost ALL of His human creation.

I think SATAN LOVES it when most of the Church reads this verse, and think it means just what you believe.

I didn't interpret anything. I quoted Jesus. And again I quote Jesus:

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER and ever!

 

[Hillsage]

It doesn't. But Jesus clearly will say to HUMANS,

Matthew 25:41 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

I didn't interpret anything. I quoted Jesus. And again I quote Jesus:

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER and ever!

 

[Jack]

Matthew 13:49-50
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell!

 

[Hillsage]

Matthew 13:49-50
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell!

YLT MAT 25:41 Then shall he say also to those on the left hand, Go ye from me, the cursed, to the fire, the age-during, that hath been prepared for the Devil and his messengers;

YOU TOO.....will be in the same fire that all will be cast into. I dare say you have never been taught God's purpose for AGE LASTING fire which YOUR bible will falsely translate as ETERNAL.

MAR 9:49 For every one will be salted with fire.

HEB 12:29 for our God is a consuming fire.

You don't have a clue about the use of divine fire from God for his filty sinful creation. As well as ALL churches.

ISA 4:4 When the Lord has washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion and purged the bloodshed of Jerusalem from her midst, by the spirit of judgment and the spirit of burning,

 

[Jack]

YLT MAT 25:41 Then shall he say also to those on the left hand, Go ye from me, the cursed, to the fire, the age-during, that hath been prepared for the Devil and his messengers;

YOU TOO.....will be in the same fire that all will be cast into. I dare say you have never been taught God's purpose for AGE LASTING fire which YOUR bible will falsely translate as ETERNAL.

MAR 9:49 For every one will be salted with fire.

HEB 12:29 for our God is a consuming fire.

You don't have a clue about the use of divine fire from God for his filty sinful creation. As well as ALL churches.

ISA 4:4 When the Lord has washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion and purged the bloodshed of Jerusalem from her midst, by the spirit of judgment and the spirit of burning,

Yes, they will burn in the fire, "forever and ever"!

 

[One 2 question]

Yes, they will burn in the fire, "forever and ever"!

Agreed! And lets face the truth. We humans have all sinned. None of us sought God. We all are born condemned. We all like sheep have gone astray. We all deserve to go and burn in the fire, "forever and ever"! And that we will.

 

[Jack]

Agreed! And lets face the truth. We humans have all sinned. None of us sought God. We all are born condemned. We all like sheep have gone astray. We all deserve to go and burn in the fire, "forever and ever"! And that we will.

Yes we do!!! And yet some here say they NEVER sin!

 

[One 2 question]

Yes we do!!! And yet some here say they NEVER sin!

So you are going with me and every other sinner (oh, that is everyone) to burn in the fire, "forever and ever"

 

[Behold]

So you are going with me and every other sinner to burn in the fire, "forever and ever"?

Its the unbelievers who have chosen to go to Hell, and not Heaven, after they die.

All you have to do is Reject Christ, all your life, and die., and you chose to go to hell, and not Heaven.

"HELL" is found at the END of a Christ Rejecting Life.
That's how you find it.. That's how a person chooses to "go to Hell".

Its a choice., and God respects that Choice to choose Hell, instead of choosing to go to Heaven, that they made all their Christ Rejecting
LIFE.

So, choose to go to Heaven instead, Reader.

If you take Christ, GOD TAKES YOU".

Its that simple, and if you dont, then God can't take you and that is YOUR CHOICE.

 

[One 2 question]

Its the unbelievers who have chosen to go to Hell, and not Heaven, after they die.

All you have to do is Reject Christ, all your life, and die., and you chose to go to hell, and not Heaven.

"HELL" is found at the END of a Christ Rejecting Life.
That's how you find it.. That's how a person chooses to "go to Hell".

Its a choice., and God respects that Choice to choose Hell, instead of choosing to go to Heaven, that they made all their Christ Rejecting
LIFE.

So, choose to go to Heaven instead, Reader.

If you take Christ, GOD TAKES YOU".

Its that simple, and if you dont, then God can't take you and that is YOUR CHOICE.

So all humans weren't born on eternal death row? Not all humans have sinned and deserve to go to hell?

 

[One 2 question]

Its a choice.

And for those who are not given the something, or in this case, the Someone to choose or reject then what happens to them?

There would have to be millions if not billions of these.

 

[One 2 question]

Its the unbelievers who have chosen to go to Hell, and not Heaven, after they die.

But aren't all humans born unbelievers? Or are you saying that some people are born believers in Christ?

 

[One 2 question]

That's how a person chooses to "go to Hell".

So you don't think every human is born hell bound? Some are born heaven bound. Do these have to be born a Jew? Be of a certain age?

So babies and adults with particular disabilities where they can't make decisions or a choice autonomously when their life ends go where???

 

[One 2 question]

If you take Christ, GOD TAKES YOU".

Babies and adults with particular disabilities where they can't make decisions or a choice autonomously who can't take Christ, well your saying, GOD WON'T TAKE THEM.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

“Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.” (John 21:21-22, KJV)

 

[One 2 question]

“Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.” (John 21:21-22, KJV)

??? I think this random quote was posted in the wrong thread.

 

[Jack]

So you are going with me and every other sinner (oh, that is everyone) to burn in the fire, "forever and ever"

If you want to go to Hell don't count on me going with you. That would be your choice. Hell will be filled with BILLIONS who don't believe in Hell.

Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.