The Modern Gospel

[Ritajanice]

The doctrines and teachings of man are a stronghold and lead to deception

I understand this Brother.

. It’s the same people who espouse sola scripture that are the ones who use extra biblical sources the most. It’s so ironic to say the least.

What is sola scripture?

 

[ChristisGod]

I understand this Brother.

What is sola scripture?

Scripture alone

 

[Ritajanice]

Scripture alone

Ah..that makes sense, thank you.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So please tell us all.

Who and how are you led through the written word?

Your faith is dead faith..you need God’s faith gifted to you.

My faith is dead?

Remember your defending a person who thinks his faith is not enough to save him, that he has to work also

How can you trust the written word?

If I do not trust the written word. I have no hope. Because what then could I trust?

the Berean’s trusted the written word enough they used it to test what Paul told them. If they did this with paul. Shoudl I not do it to anyone who try’s to show what he believes to me?

How do you even know that’s it’s true?

Like I told you 1000 times. Because everything it has said has come true. When I obeyed it. I was rewarded. It has never let me down.

I can not say that about any person. Look at how much you let me down the moment I questioned you?

How many times have I asked you these questions to no avail?

I have answered. You just do not like my answers

So you keep asking the same stuff over and over and trying to say I am not answering.

its on you sis.. You’re the one who went off earlier and attacked me for no reason. And tried to attribute things to me that EPI believes. Because you are out to get me..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Who and how are you led through the written word?
Believers are led through the written word by the Holy Spirit. The Bible, being God’s inspired word, serves as the primary means through which God communicates His will, teachings, and guidance.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV): "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

John 16:13 (KJV): "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."

Psalm 119:105 (KJV): "Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path."

Your faith is dead faith.. you need God’s faith gifted to you.
The Bible teaches that true faith is a gift from God and that it is living and active. Genuine faith produces good works and spiritual fruit as evidence of a transformed life.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV): "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

James 2:17 (KJV): "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."

Galatians 5:22-23 (KJV): "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."

How can you trust the written?
The Bible is trustworthy because it is inspired by God, who is truth. The historical accuracy, prophetic fulfillment, and transformative power of Scripture further testify to its reliability.

2 Peter 1:20-21 (KJV): "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

Psalm 19:7 (KJV): "The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple."

John 17:17 (KJV): "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."

How do you even know that it’s true?
The truth of Scripture is affirmed by its internal consistency, historical corroboration, fulfilled prophecies, and the life-changing power it demonstrates in the lives of believers.

2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV): "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."

Isaiah 55:11 (KJV): "So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it."

Hebrews 4:12 (KJV): "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."


So @Ritajanice , Christians are led through the written word by the Holy Spirit, faith is a gift from God that is evidenced by good works, the Bible is trustworthy and true because it is inspired by God, and its truth is affirmed by its internal and external evidence, including its transformative impact on lives.

J.

I have said these same words a few times. Will she believe you?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Evidently you bear false witness.

Now show where I have said Gods written word isn’t true.?

Who is bearing false witness. But again you

I never said uyou said the word was not true

I said I trust the word.

Evidently you do not (trust the word).

if you read the word like you read what others say to you. No wonder you are so confused.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

My personal work and notes in Microsoft Excel.
And you still don't understand?

lol No she does not.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The gospel is not about preserving the flesh. It's about believing that God has something better for us as we forsake it.

The gospel is the good news of Jesus

it is about the saving of the eternal soul

it is about being born again, to new life eternal

Those who have been born again from it. Now they look at something better that God has

You skip over the salvation part. And just go right to the work part..

 

[Johann]

The doctrines and teachings of man are a stronghold and lead to deception. It’s the same people who espouse sola scripture that are the ones who use extra biblical sources the most. It’s so ironic to say the least.

What are you doing HERE? Where am I using extra biblical resources? My posts are short and condensed and I don't overstep the rules of THIS Forum, so I ask you again, what are you doing here-have they kicked you out from BAM? If so, for good reason.
You have been reported so enjoy your short visit here.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Nope that’s Calvinism a false gospel

Since when is free will a calvinist doctrine

does anyone read what people are saying anymore

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are espousing Augustinianism which is Gnosticism. You once again are projecting

lol.. You do not know how to read very well do you?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

A lot of error too in important areas. Be ye careful sister.

Sadly. She shows by what she says, she does nt even know what epi believes. She is just standing up for him.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Whoa Nellie.


Again.

She has a spirit today, thats for sure..

 

[Ritajanice]

My faith is dead?

If it’s human faith of course..how can you have faith if you don’t know who God is in your heart/ spirit?

You know God in your heart/ spirit right @Eternally Grateful ?
My human faith was dead of course..before I became Born Of The Spirit
I deleted my other questions to you...as it’s the same old merry go round.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What do you mean , Whoa Nellie,human faith is dead, where is the power in human faith?

The power in human faith is in who that faith is in

If the power of human faith is in self. It is a dead faith. And will fail

If it is in God. It has massive power. Because God is someone to be trusted.

My human faith was/ is dead....God gifts us faith a manifestation of the Spirit...
How can you believe in God in your own human faith?

Don’t you think as a non believer I tried to believe in God with my human faith I remember it to this day...dead faith...we need the resurrection life in our spirit when we become Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit...mind Blowing...that is faith that is Alive and Active in the Spirit.

Born Again in our spirit?

No disrespect Sis, but when you say Whoa Nellie, have you reread some of your posts back from speaking to Epi?

Talk about....WOW!!...pot kettle ,black and all that Sis...don’t be a hypocrite now..

Calvinist talk.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Jesus is my foundation not the gospel,

There you go people. Jesus and the gospel are two different things.
I would quote the word that says what the gospel is nd how it is ALL about jesus. But she would not believe it.

 

[Johann]

There you go people. Jesus and the gospel are two different things.
I would quote the word that says what the gospel is nd how it is ALL about jesus. But she would not believe it.

Already picked that up.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Bible is the inspired word of God.

But it’s not Alive and Active in The Spirit..

The bible says it is

Why do you not believe it?

 

[Johann]

The bible says it is

Why do you not believe it?

Hebrews 4:12 (ESV):
"For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart."

Context:
In Hebrews 4:12, the author emphasizes that the word of God is not merely a collection of writings but is alive and active. It is described as sharp, capable of discerning and penetrating to the deepest parts of a person—soul, spirit, joints, marrow, thoughts, and intentions. This passage underscores the transformative power and spiritual efficacy of God's word, highlighting its ability to convict, guide, and bring about change in the lives of believers.

Greek Text from the Textus Receptus (TR):
The passage from Hebrews 4:12 in the TR is as follows:
Ζῶν γὰρ ὁ λόγος τοῦ Θεοῦ καὶ ἐνεργὴς καὶ τομώτερος ὑπὲρ πᾶσαν μάχαιραν δίστομον, καὶ διικνούμενος ἄχρι μερισμοῦ ψυχῆς καὶ πνεύματος, ἁρμῶν τε καὶ μυελῶν, καὶ κριτικὸς ἐνθυμήσεων καὶ ἐννοιῶν καρδίας.

Breakdown and Analysis:
Ζῶν γὰρ ὁ λόγος τοῦ Θεοῦ:

Ζῶν (zōn): Present active participle, nominative singular masculine of ζάω (zaō), meaning "living" or "alive."
γὰρ (gar): Conjunction, meaning "for" or "because," often used to introduce an explanation or reason.
ὁ λόγος (ho logos): Nominative singular masculine, meaning "the word." ὁ (ho) is the definite article.
τοῦ Θεοῦ (tou Theou): Genitive singular masculine, meaning "of God." τοῦ (tou) is the genitive singular masculine definite article.
καὶ ἐνεργὴς καὶ τομώτερος ὑπὲρ πᾶσαν μάχαιραν δίστομον:

καὶ (kai): Conjunction, meaning "and."
ἐνεργὴς (energēs): Adjective, nominative singular masculine, meaning "active" or "effective."
καὶ (kai): Conjunction, meaning "and."
τομώτερος (tomōteros): Comparative adjective, nominative singular masculine, meaning "sharper."
ὑπὲρ (hyper): Preposition, meaning "than" or "beyond," used to compare.
πᾶσαν (pasan): Adjective, accusative singular feminine of πᾶς (pas), meaning "all" or "every."
μάχαιραν (machairan): Accusative singular feminine, meaning "sword."
δίστομον (distomon): Adjective, accusative singular feminine, meaning "two-edged" or "double-edged."
καὶ διικνούμενος ἄχρι μερισμοῦ ψυχῆς καὶ πνεύματος:

καὶ (kai): Conjunction, meaning "and."
διικνούμενος (diiknoumenos): Present middle participle, nominative singular masculine of διικνέομαι (diikneomai), meaning "piercing" or "penetrating."
ἄχρι (achri): Preposition, meaning "until" or "to the point of."
μερισμοῦ (merismou): Genitive singular masculine, meaning "division" or "separation."
ψυχῆς (psychēs): Genitive singular feminine, meaning "soul."
καὶ (kai): Conjunction, meaning "and."
πνεύματος (pneumatos): Genitive singular neuter, meaning "spirit."
ἁρμῶν τε καὶ μυελῶν:

ἁρμῶν (harmōn): Genitive plural masculine, meaning "joints."
τε (te): Conjunction, meaning "and."
καὶ (kai): Conjunction, meaning "and."
μυελῶν (myelōn): Genitive plural masculine, meaning "marrow."
καὶ κριτικὸς ἐνθυμήσεων καὶ ἐννοιῶν καρδίας:

καὶ (kai): Conjunction, meaning "and."
κριτικὸς (kritikos): Adjective, nominative singular masculine, meaning "able to judge" or "discerner."
ἐνθυμήσεων (enthymēseōn): Genitive plural feminine, meaning "thoughts" or "intentions."
καὶ (kai): Conjunction, meaning "and."
ἐννοιῶν (ennoiōn): Genitive plural feminine, meaning "intentions" or "attitudes."
καρδίας (kardias): Genitive singular feminine, meaning "heart."
Exegetical Insights:
Living and Active: The word ζῶν indicates that the word of God is not static or dead but is full of life and vitality. The present participle suggests ongoing action.

Sharper than any Two-Edged Sword: The comparison τομώτερος ὑπὲρ πᾶσαν μάχαιραν δίστομον emphasizes the superior penetrating ability of God’s word, which surpasses even the sharpest double-edged sword.

Piercing to Divide Soul and Spirit: The participle διικνούμενος highlights the active, penetrating nature of the word. The phrase ἄχρι μερισμοῦ ψυχῆς καὶ πνεύματος indicates its profound ability to reach and distinguish between the immaterial parts of a person.

Joints and Marrow: The word’s reach extends to the deepest, most hidden parts of a person, symbolized by ἁρμῶν τε καὶ μυελῶν.
Judge of Thoughts and Intentions: The adjective κριτικὸς describes the discerning power of the word, able to judge ἐνθυμήσεων καὶ ἐννοιῶν καρδίας, the innermost thoughts and intentions.

Conclusion:
Hebrews 4:12 presents the word of God as living, active, and more penetrating than any physical sword. It can divide the soul and spirit, joints and marrow, and judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. This passage underscores the divine and profound impact of God's word on the deepest parts of human existence, revealing its unparalleled power to discern and transform.

How unfortunate she is not believing this.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

If it’s human faith of course..

No. My faith is in God. Not in mankind..

But thanks for trying to tell me what I think again, and being wrong.

how can you have faith if you don’t know who God is in your heart/ spirit?

I do know who he is. In my heart.

Give me a break Rita.. You have known me for how long. You used to praise me, now because I think you are a little confused about how to be born again, You have to attack me every time I say a word

You know God in your heart/ spirit right @Eternally Grateful ?
My human faith was dead of course..before I became Born Of The Spirit
I deleted my other questions to you...as it’s the same old merry go round.

I have no idea what you mean by human faith is this another calvin trick? I have never heard this term before.

Faith is assurance, it is a trust. Who do you trust. Are you like epi and trust yourself.

or do you trust God?