The Modern Gospel

[Ritajanice]

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◄ Ephesians 2 ►

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Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ Alive with Christ (Colossians 2:6–23) 1And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. 3All of us also lived among them at one time, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath. 4But because of His great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved! 6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life.a One in Christ (Philippians 2:1–4) 11Therefore remember that formerly you who are Gentiles in the flesh and called uncircumcised by the so-called circumcision (that done in the body by human hands)— 12remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ. 14For He Himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has torn down the dividing wall of hostility 15by abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments and decrees. He did this to create in Himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace 16and reconciling both of them to God in one body through the cross, by which He extinguished their hostility. 17He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18For through Him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. Christ Our Cornerstone (Isaiah 28:14–22; 1 Corinthians 3:10–15; 1 Peter 2:1–8) 19Therefore you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of God’s household, 20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone. 21In Him the whole building is fitted together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord.22And in Him you too are being built together into a dwelling place for God in His Spirit.

 

[Episkopos]

I think God tell us, so I think he decides

In john 3, He said that faith IN HIM will grant you eternal life,

That's my point. Faith translates us into the same walk that is testified to in the bible. No need for imagination. If we let God judge what we are to be...then He will either not visit us...and we remain as we are. Or, He will translate us into the kingdom walk in eternal life that we experience by grace.

The issue is that people will read the bible and decide for themselves that God accepts them.That would be like someone being a guitar then deciding they are a rock star. Can you say...delusional?

Does this happen all the time? Yes. A delusional rock star is spurned by people...not so a delusional believer.

and once you have it you will never perish.

But there is condemnation for disobedience. We are saved by faith...but into what? Glory? eternal darkness?

As far as God accepting everything we do? Well he does not and will not accept our sin.

It's not just our sin He doesn't have to accept...it's us and our claims to Him. As in...go away from Me...I never knew you. None of the religiously certain people ever consider that is maybe them.

Thats why he said, the wage of sin is death. But the gift of God is life eternal. Why? He died in our place. So we could be made the righteousness of God in him (Like abraham, those who believe (trust faith) are given Gods righteousness. Why? Because our righteousness are as filthy rags

Big confusion here. Are you so special to God that the wages of your sin is not death? Is God a respecter of persons? You have fully misunderstood the gospel. The gift of God is eternal life AWAY from a sinful temporal life. Eternal life is a KIND of life created in Christ Jesus that we should walk in it.

Jesus died in our place?

For those who would have eternal life...Jesus is showing us the way. And we can't claim Jesus' sacrifice for ourselves. Only God can justify a person. Jesus offered Himself up to the Father, not to us. So you have to go through the Father. And when Jesus' sacrifice is efficacious to us....we are translated into the higher walk in eternal life. That's how we KNOW we have been justified.

And here we go again… Blame shifting, and doing what you yourself do often.

There you go protecting the flesh that is meant for the cross. Who are you? Are you a new creation in Christ...or are you Adam who wants to save himself?

Who says they are righteous as God is? I have never in my life heard anyone say this, so where do you come up with things like this?

From you,, and others who have believed the lie. There is NO WAY that God's righteousness can be imputed to anyone. We will be judged by OUR works...not Jesus" or God's. It is a massive confusion to think we are no longer responsible for our own actions. A false gospel doesn't bring the fear of the Lord...just the kind of smug self-assurance that is just waiting to be demolished. Better now than on judgment day.

Now I do not there are people who claim they were born again, and no never sin (I guess this could be taken as what you are saying) But the word also says they are deceived. So we all should be against that.

But to say we are just as righteous as God? No

OK So you don't believe you have God's righteousness imputed (reckoned) to you? Those who do will be judged very hard.

Now Justified by faith means we have been declared innocent of all things (justified is a legal term which means to be found innocent) only our justification is not based on our innocence, but on Gods righteousness. Hence why it is imputed to us.

That's not how justification works. Intimacy with God is not a legal thing..and you are not a lawyer. I think you are still under the law. Being under grace is NOT a legal thing, but an intimate walk in resurrection life and power...according to the gospel. You have fallen for the deviated gospel that says that legally you can no longer be prosecuted for sin...like an immunity clause that criminals sign up for...based on self-interest and self-preservation. If God was that crooked, then why does Jesus say that those who seek to save their life would lose it. You may have to ponder that a while.

its like the day of atonement, when the High Priest puts the blood on the ark. The cherub can not see the things that proved the guilt of the people (the ten commands, Arron;s rod that budded, the manna) they saw the blood. So the sins were atoned for by the animals slaughtered. Which is a picture of Christ on the cross. The means of our justification. .

No. The atonement is based on holiness. Ever notice that the ark of God was in the holy of holiness? The atonement makes HOLY not forgiven. God's people are holy. God is holy. In the holiness of Christ there is no sin. In Him is no sin.

If he does not cover up your sins, Your dead, and you have no hope.

NO. There is no cover up for sins. Light exposes darkness. Only darkness covers up more darkness. So you are believing the biggest lie.

For all have sinned, and fallen short. You can not live up to Gods standard.

By grace we are empowered to walk as Jesus walked...fulfilling the righteousness of the law.

That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 8:4

Does it say that the righteousness of the law was fulfilled in Christ? Or in us who walk in His power and eternal life???

Reading comprehension is key here.

So many want to lower Gods standard so they can appear to be above it.

Exactly my point. The modern gospel is the broad way that Jesus warns us against. Instead seek the face of God until He visits you and pours His Spirit on you like at Pentecost.

God is not that as you said senile, that he does not see whats going on. The pharisee did it. And Jesus continually called them out.

of course, they did not like that. So they crucified him, Sadly, that happens a lot on here.

A religion of death means Jesus had to die....because people are dead in their sins. Many believers are still dead in their sins and point to the cross. But a real believer GOES to the cross to die and be quickened into an eternal kind of life to walk as Jesus walked...in His grace and power.

Jesus died for the sins of the world...not just those who believe. But He was raised to life to justify those who walk in His eternal life.

Self righteousness is basing your salvation on how good you are.

Not just that. Self-righteousness is when you declare yourself righteous for ANY REASON.

And enter not into judgment with thy servant: for in thy sight shall no man living be justified. Ps. 121

As paul said, it is not by works of righteousness (good deeds, or not doing bad deeds interpret this either way) which we have done, but by his mercy he saved us

Yes...no man can work themselves into a heavenly walk....it is by translation...like Enoch. Read Heb. 11.

He saved us by his mercy, he has mercy on sinners like us. Who still are not perfect.

Sure. But we lose righteousness by claiming something that isn't true. A liar is NOT righteous. Paul warns us against trying to hold to the truth in unrighteousness. The wrath of God is on these.

Who still are not as righteous as he is, and will not be until we meet him face to face.

No one is ever as righteous as God. But we can be like Jesus. And you can meet God face to face right now...how? By faith.

When sin will be wiped out from our ability, as we will at that time, be just like him

You are confusing a bodily redemption with a blood redemption. The time to drink the Blood of Christ is now. To walk in His life....now.

So then you are wrong to think of Christianity as an after-life. That is from pagan influence...Valhalla (Nordic paganism) and also Islam that teaches heaven and hell. How many people are still ignorant about eternal things?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The true gospel says...while we were yet sinners Jesus died for us (because of us). Rom. 5:8

The false gospel says ...while we were yet sinners God imputed His own righteousness to us (No verse found that remotely suggests this)

Yet he did this to abraham, while Abraham was still a sinner

If Gods righteousness is not imputed to you, Your still dead in your sin. Bo scripture even hints that we can be found justified while still in out own sin.

How many follow a dead religion whereby Jesus has to stay on the cross to make it work? or else always referring to the death of Jesus as a means to self-justify by ideological beliefs? ...

Since no one I know teaches this. I must ask, are you saying this to justify your own Gospel? I do not know what else people would say things that NO ONE BELIEVES.

But Jesus was raised to justify those who partake of His resurrection life.

By FAITH in all the christ did. Not just so you can be like christ, That is the RESULT of justification. Not the means of it.

In that life there is no sin.

Did you nost just talk about those who say they have no sin?

That life is under the COVERING of God's righteousness. This kind of life is UNKNOWN among the modern gospel adherents. These will mock the higher walk in holiness as a fable, even as they promote fables of their own.

If it were possible. Why then would we need to be covered by the righteousness of Christ? Is it would be righteous itself. And not need covering

 

[Episkopos]

If the bible could speak to you what would it say? Would it puff you up and say you are God's righteousness, that you are seated in heavenly places?

NO. The bible would tell you that you are poor, naked, wretched, and blind....and in need of seeking first the kingdom of God BEFORE making foolish claims based on a lack of reading skills and discernment of eternal things.

 

[Episkopos]

Yet he did this to abraham, while Abraham was still a sinner

A righteous man still sins. God recognized the HUMAN righteousness of Abraham. Just like God recognizes the human righteousness of the good Samaritan.

There are 2 levels of righteousness. Loving your neighbour as yourself. And loving God with all. 2 tablets of commandments. A double edged sword...etc...

If Gods righteousness is not imputed to you, Your still dead in your sin.

No...God doesn't impute His righteousness to anyone. That's why it's called the righteousness of GOD. If it is His it can't be attributed to you. Nobody is going to glorify you for obedience to God. God is jealous of His glory. NO, walk like Jesus walked and men will glorify GOD...not you.

Bo scripture even hints that we can be found justified while still in out own sin.

What? The opposite is true. You have to read the bible for yourself. Was Zacharias a righteous man in God's eyes? The bible says so...and yet he was made mute because of his unbelief. Unbelief is a sin.

Since no one I know teaches this. I must ask, are you saying this to justify your own Gospel?

I am preaching exactly...to the nth degree...what the bible teaches. You can't see that because you have been indoctrinated into a religion. You have to go to God to know the truth. Reading a bible wrong will get you condemned very quickly. Making false claims ensures your future rejection. Where is the fear? Where is the reality?

I do not know what else people would say things that NO ONE BELIEVES.

By FAITH in all the christ did.

That's not faith...but beliefs. Beliefs have no power. Believing in Napoleon doesn't make me a general. Believing in Jesus doesn't make you stop sinning.

Not just so you can be like christ, That is the RESULT of justification. Not the means of it.

Did you nost just talk about those who say they have no sin?



If it were possible. Why then would we need to be covered by the righteousness of Christ? Is it would be righteous itself. And not need covering

That's like saying a fit person doesn't need to run to get in shape...so why are they running?

 

[Behold]

If the bible could speak to you what would it say? Would it puff you up and say you are God's righteousness,

For an unbeliever to become "one" with God and Christ...they have to be forgiven all sin, and then given the very righteousness of God.
This is the exact status that Adam #1 had, before he lost it.

Jesus, the 2nd Adam, came here to fulfill the law and die as a sinless sacrifice for the sin of the world.

God accepts the life, shed blood, and death, of Christ The Lord, on behalf of every sinner who gives their Faith in Christ to God.

"Your Faith is counted by GOD as "Christ's Righteousness"... and now the believer born again has become..

A.) "The Righteousness of God, in Christ" as a "new Creation"...

This is why the born again exists "In Christ", "one with God", "seated in Heavenly places".

They have been given "The GIFT of Righteousness" and now being "made righteous", they exist in eternal spiritual Union with God and Christ.

Welcome to : Salvation.

Its "The Gift of Salvation"... "The Gift of Righteousness".. and "The Gift of Eternal life".

 

[Ritajanice]

If the bible could speak to you what would it say? Would it puff you up and say you are God's righteousness, that you are seated in heavenly places?

NO. The bible would tell you that you are poor, naked, wretched, and blind....and in need of seeking first the kingdom of God BEFORE making foolish claims based on a lack of reading skills and discernment of eternal things.

Amen!!!

 

[Ritajanice]

Our sins must be forgiven first then we become Born Again, we are not in the righteousness of Christ not until our spirit is Born Again, then we are right before God.

We do not have imputed righteousness.there is only one righteous man, his name was Jesus.

We are clothed in his righteousness.

 

[Episkopos]

We reap as we sow. The modern gospel denies this. We are to sow in righteousness...HUMAN righteousness and break up our fallow ground. Shake up our foolish religious beliefs...and SEEK THE LORD. That's IN the bible.

Until...He comes and rains HIS righteousness on us. That's not the same kind of righteousness we are to sow in. We reap HIS righteousness by sowing our own....as we SEEK GOD!!!!!!

Nobody seeks God. People will rail against that and say I'm making this up...that is HOW FAR from the truth they have been deviated.

READ the bible.

Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you. Hos. 10:12

OK...let's go over this.

Sow to yourselves? What kind of righteousness? OURS! What is that righteousness? Fear of God, humility. Honesty, brokenness...ever notice how we need to repent to believe the gospel. Well, people aren't doing that...because it sounds too much like work!

Where there is no honesty...among SO MANY...there is no proper sowing. So people are not even this far.

We reap as we sow.

Reap in mercy. God goes easy on the humble and contrite ones.

It is time to SEEK THE LORD. Until when??? Until He shows up!!!! Hello!!!

What does He do when He shows up? He COVERS US with HIS righteousness...to preserve the holiness of an intimate walk in resurrection life.

Who can read?

 

[Johann]

There are 2 levels of righteousness. Loving your neighbour as yourself. And loving God with all. 2 tablets of commandments. A double edged sword...etc...

"There are two primary commandments that summarize righteousness: loving your neighbor as yourself (Mark 12:31) and loving God with all your heart, soul, and mind (Matthew 22:37-38). These two commandments are likened to two tablets of the law (Exodus 31:18) and are described as a double-edged sword (Hebrews 4:12), piercing through spirit and soul."

Was Zacharias a righteous man in God's eyes? The bible says so...

No...God doesn't impute His righteousness to anyone. That's why it's called the righteousness of GOD. If it is His it can't be attributed to you. Nobody is going to glorify you for obedience to God. God is jealous of His glory. NO, walk like Jesus walked and men will glorify GOD...not you.

No, God does impute His righteousness to believers. This is why it is referred to as the righteousness of God; it originates from Him and is graciously credited to believers through faith. While it remains inherently God's righteousness, He imparts it to individuals, allowing them to stand justified before Him. This imputation is a foundational concept of justification by faith, as seen in passages such as Romans 4:3-5, where Abraham's faith was credited to him as righteousness. When believers obey God, they reflect His character, prompting others to glorify God for His work in their lives, in accordance with Matthew 5:16. Therefore, believers are called to walk as Jesus walked, so that their lives may bring glory to God rather than to themselves, underscoring God's jealousy for His glory and the transformative power of His righteousness imputed to them.

 

[mailmandan]

For an unbeliever to become "one" with God and Christ...they have to be forgiven all sin, and then given the very righteousness of God.
This is the exact status that Adam #1 had, before he lost it.

Jesus, the 2nd Adam, came here to fulfill the law and die as a sinless sacrifice for the sin of the world.

God accepts the life, shed blood, and death, of Christ The Lord, on behalf of every sinner who gives their Faith in Christ to God.

"Your Faith is counted by GOD as "Christ's Righteousness"... and now the believer born again has become..

A.) "The Righteousness of God, in Christ" as a "new Creation"...

This is why the born again exists "In Christ", "one with God", "seated in Heavenly places".

They have been given "The GIFT of Righteousness" and now being "made righteous", they exist in eternal spiritual Union with God and Christ.

Welcome to : Salvation.

Its "The Gift of Salvation"... "The Gift of Righteousness".. and "The Gift of Eternal life".

Romans 4:5 - But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works.

Romans 4:11 - And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also.

Romans 4:24 - but also for us. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead.

Romans 5:19 - For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.

2 Corinthians 5:21 - For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Philippians 3:9 - and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith.

Welcome to salvation indeed. :)

 

[Cassandra]

Error....you do not rely on your own Spirit to tell us anything.

Please explain to me what our own Spirit knows, which should be lower case, ....without God’s Living witness His Living Holy Spirit ?

What do you know in your own understanding of God’s written word?

Our spirit needs to be “ Born Again “...we can and do not rely on our “ own spirit “..show me where it says this in Gods word?

That we rely on our own “ Spirit “..thank you.

We 100% rely on God’s Spirit who brings our spirit to Gods truth...that is why we need to be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.!

Where do you think our spiritual eyes and ears come from?

Who develops those spiritual eyes and ears within us?

We grow and mature in Christ, by Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit....

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[1] Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
[2] Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
[3] And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
[4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
[5] They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
[6] We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
[7] Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
[8] He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
[9] In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
[10] Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
[11] Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
[12] No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
[13] Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
[14] And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
[15] Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
[16] And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
[17] Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
[18] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
[19] We love him, because he first loved us.
[20] If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
[21] And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also

It was sarcasm.I thought that was evident.

 

[Ritajanice]

We must be Born Of The Spirit to be saved from eternal damnation..

Only a Born Again will see the Kingdom Of God.

Human belief is not the same as God given faith a manifestation of the Spirit..

Our spirit must be Born Again...then we are saved from eternal damnation.and not before.

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◄ 1 Peter 1 ►

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Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ A Greeting from Peter (2 Peter 1:1–2) 1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the elect who are exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosena 2according to the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. A Living Hope 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birthb into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. 6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in various trials 7so that the proven character of your faith—more precious than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 8Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9now that you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls. 10Concerning this salvation, the prophets who foretold the grace to come to you searched and investigated carefully, 11trying to determine the time and setting to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow. 12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, when they foretold the things now announced by those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things. A Call to Holiness (Hebrews 12:14–17) 13Therefore prepare your minds for action.c Be sober-minded. Set your hope fully on the grace to be given you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14As obedient children, do not conform to the passions of your former ignorance. 15But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, 16for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”d 17Since you call on a Father who judges each one’s work impartially, conduct yourselves in reverent fear during your stay as foreigners. 18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life you inherited from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or spot. 20He was known before the foundation of the world, but was revealed in the last times for your sake. 21Through Him you believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and glorified Him; and so your faith and hope are in God. The Enduring Word (Isaiah 40:6–8) 22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.e 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24For, “All flesh is like grass, and all its glory like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, 25but the word of the Lord stands forever.”f And this is the word that was proclaimed to you.

 

[Ritajanice]

It was sarcasm.I thought that was evident.

Just picked you up on your error, that was all.

 

[Episkopos]

Romans 4:5 - But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works.

That's right. We can have righteousness imputed to us by God (not His righteousness but ours) through either works OR faith. You are adding in the word God's in there though your indoctrination...seeing words that are invisible.

There is a righteousness apart from works! Yes. Otherwise we could not be translated into the heavenly walk. No works of righteousness can get us translated into heaven.

Romans 4:11 - And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also.

That's right. Paul is describing a justification by faith. By whose faith? OURS!!!! Based on what level of righteousness? OURS. God is merely confirming what He sees.

Romans 4:24 - but also for us. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead.

OUR faith is imputed to us for OUR righteousness. My hand gets imputed to me for MY actions. People need to learn to read and learn basic comprehension. There is NO God's righteousness imputed to us. Sheer folly to make that up.

Romans 5:19 - For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.

The righteousness of saints. Not God's righteousness. The white robes of saints is THEIR righteousness.

2 Corinthians 5:21 - For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

We are covered by God's righteousness as we enter INTO Christ to be with Him WHERE HE IS. Holiness is about location...with God in His presence.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

No man can boast of living in eternal life. It is by mercy and the power of God....called grace.

Philippians 3:9 - and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith.

Found IN Him. Location location location.

Welcome to salvation indeed. :)

Welcome to the show.

 

[mailmandan]

Acts 20:28 - Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. 31 Therefore watch and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.

 

[Cassandra]

Amen!!!

Just picked you up on your error, that was all.

There was no error. I wrote it because folks were telling johan he didn't need to use commentaries, and I just pointed out that John Paul and James when all commentaries too, and maybe he shouldn't use them (It was posted to show that you can use commentaries, and I wrote it with sarcasm.) I don't know what you are speaking about here. You need to leave me alone. I get the same ol same ol all the time from you. I get it, you are born again, we aren't, right? I remember a post you wrote before that got removed where you had remarked to another member that you and he were the only two born again, and then you added lol. the post was removed. You haven't changed a bit.

Jesus is My Saviour. I am born again. I am justified There was no miraculous feeling etc. The fact that we can be born again is a miracle in itself.
I study the Bible, because that tells me about the Lord. Everytime I open it I find something new.

I still wish I could put you on ignore like I had you before you were promoted,.

 

[Ritajanice]

There was no error. I wrote it because folks were telling johan he didn't need to use commentaries, and I just pointed out that John Paul and James we all commentaries too, and maybe he shouldn't use them (It was posted to show that you can use commentaries, and I wrote it with sarcasm.) I don't know what you are speaking about here. You need to leave me alone. I get the same ol same ol all the time from you. I get it, you are born again, we aren't, right? I remember a post you wrote before that got removed where you had remarked to another member that you and he were the only two born again, and then you added lol. the post was removed. You haven't changed a bit.

Jesus is My Saviour. I am born again. I am justified There was no miraculous feeling etc. The fact that we can be born again is a miracle in itself.
I study the Bible, because that tells me about the Lord. Everytime I open it I find something new.

I still wish I could put you on ignore like I had you before you were promoted,.

Then you should have posted that..

I never said you weren’t Born Again..that’s your assumption of my posts.

I must leave you alone?...this is a discussion board, where Gods truth must prevail...not mumbo jumbo ...

Not when it comes to posting Gods truth I won’t.

Don’t add to Gods word, as His word is serious business...

I was Born Again as Gods word says..not by adding my own spin on his word.

Try sticking with the subject matter please, I’m not interested in your personal opinions of me..thanks..

And for heavens sake grow up in your spirit and mature in Christ..instead of posting this school playground post below.

@Cassandra said... I still wish I could put you on ignore like I had you before you were promoted,.

Jesus was a perfect example of maturity even at a young age.

Luke 2:40-52

King James Version

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40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
41 Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
45 And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.
46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

 

[Cassandra]

Then you should have posted that..

I never said you weren’t Born Again..that’s your assumption of my posts.

I must leave you alone?...this is a discussion board, where Gods truth must prevail...not mumbo jumbo ...

Not when it comes to posting Gods truth I won’t.

Don’t add to Gods word, as His word is serious business...

I was Born Again as Gods word says..not by adding my own spin on his word.

Try sticking with the subject matter please, I’m not interested in your personal opinions of me..thanks..

And for heavens sake grow up in your spirit and mature in Christ..instead of posting this school playground post below.

@Cassandra said... I still wish I could put you on ignore like I had you before you were promoted,.

Its the truth. Not playground. Were it playground, the forum wouldn't offer it as an option.

'And for heavens sake grow up in your spirit and mature in Christ."Back at ya..

 

[Johann]

Then you should have posted that..

I never said you weren’t Born Again..that’s your assumption of my posts.

I must leave you alone?...this is a discussion board, where Gods truth must prevail...not mumbo jumbo ...

Not when it comes to posting Gods truth I won’t.

Don’t add to Gods word, as His word is serious business...

I was Born Again as Gods word says..not by adding my own spin on his word.

Try sticking with the subject matter please, I’m not interested in your personal opinions of me..thanks..

The one goading is you I'm afraid, breaking Forum rules, and if you don't know what I'm talking about--Goading refers to the act of provoking or annoying someone so as to stimulate some action or reaction. The term derives from a "goad," which is a pointed stick used for driving cattle, symbolizing something that prods or urges someone into action. In a metaphorical sense, goading involves deliberately irritating or challenging someone to elicit a response, often by persistent criticism, taunts, or demands.

You are provoking and annoying the members here so as to stimulate them to react-and you are a Staff member-guess the rules and Imperatives does not apply to you.

This, and the fact that you are wholly ignorant on the gospel and the doctrines in the Pauline epistles.