The Modern Gospel

[Ritajanice]

Already answered, MULTIPLE times and you don't have eyes to see, nor ears to hear.

Do you have spiritual eyes and spiritual ears ?

You have not answered from your spirit..

You have just posted reams and reams of scripture and other people’s work.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Ok,thanks, yes we are a spirit child in an instance.

Where did I say that and I will apologise?

I showed you

What we hear God’s witness His Living Holy Spirit saying...as I’ve said countless times we check what is said with scripture..we communicate with God via His Spirit.

Funny, this is what I have been saying and you demand I say sola scripture

Scripture is not Alive in Spirit...

yes it is.. It is his living word.

Gods Witness His Living Holy Spirit is the one who is Alive in Spirit, he Witnesses the truth of Gods word to his spirit child.... after we have become Born Again...Born Again of who?

Then how do you test what anyone says? Anyone can come to you and say something, you have no means to show they are wrong. Just how you feel.

..
How do you communicate with God?

More importantly how does he communicate with me

How does anyone communicate with God?

Already explained about sin.

and?

I have answered this countless times and explained that it can only be understood by heart/ spirit revelation.

That does not make you right

Can Gods seed indwell a sinner..did you answer this question?

He indwells me and I am still a sinner 8saved by grace)

If so what number post?

Yawn, Pay attention to when you accuse people. And they would not have to keep showing you what post.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You ask me questions and I give you answers but since it doesn't "resonate" with whatever spirit you have you call me a liar-again, read the post, already answered and again, I honestly don't know what your purpose here is-is it to goad the members?

Seems to be a habit. Until someone will break it.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Do you have spiritual eyes and spiritual ears ?

do you? What kind of question is this?

You have not answered from your spirit..

So did he answer from someplace else?

You have just posted reams and reams of scripture and other people’s work.

So that makes what he posted in error?

Again, You can;t make this stuff up

 

[Johann]

This how we are Born Of The Spirit my friend..very easy to understand.

I don’t need to post reams and reams of scripture to understand being Born Of The Spirit.

Does this Born Again scripture resonate with your spirit @Johann ?

John 3​

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King James Version​

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3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit

Of course I agree with this passage, why aren't you go to other passages as well? To get a more wholistic picture? Ever read the Pauline epistles? What is Paul saying re the born from above experience?
And we are to examine ourselves--why?

 

[Johann]

Seems to be a habit. Until someone will break it.

Something is about to "give" make no mistake-this can't go on indefinitely.
J.

 

[Ritajanice]

I showed you

Where is it?

Funny, this is what I have been saying and you demand I say sola scripture

yes it is.. It is his living word.

The scripture is not Gods Living word that is false teachings.

Then how do you test what anyone says? Anyone can come to you and say something, you have no means to show they are wrong. Just how you feel.

Did you read my post..what we believe the Spirit to be witnessing to our spirit, we then check what he says with Gods written word?

More importantly how does he communicate with me

How does anyone communicate with God?

I’ve already explained how he speaks to us.

Your turn.or did I miss your answer?

and?

That does not make you right

He indwells me and I am still a sinner 8saved by grace)

Sorry , it makes God right ..the Spirit of God cannot indwell a sinner..we can only be set free from sin ,when we have been Born Of God’s seed.

Yawn, Pay attention to when you accuse people. And they would not have to keep showing you what post.

Trust me, I’m keeping a very close on the questions and I am writing down your replies so I don’t miss them.

I will scan my questions and I will scan to see if you answer them.

 

[Ritajanice]

Of course I agree with this passage, why aren't you go to other passages as well? To get a more wholistic picture? Ever read the Pauline epistles? What is Paul saying re the born from above experience?
And we are to examine ourselves--why?

Don’t need to go to the rest of that scripture.

He’s just explained to Nicodemus how we are Born Of The Spirit?

So, what does being Born Of The Spirit mean!?

What’s been Born Of The Spirit?

How would we know we have been Born Of The Spirit?

Jesus has just explained how we are Born Of The Spirit..so, why would I need to read any further.

What’s your understanding of this scripture? @Johann ?

John 3​

King James Version​

3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit

 

[Johann]

Do you have spiritual eyes and spiritual ears ?

You have not answered from your spirit..

You have just posted reams and reams of scripture and other people’s work.

Show me where I post "other people's work?" You are about to fall into your own trap you set up for me. There is no excuse for being Scripture illiterate in this Age of Enlightenment @Ritajanice.

 

[Johann]

The scripture is not Gods Living word that is false teachings.

Error!

Scripture as God’s Word: In Christianity, the Bible is widely regarded as God’s inspired and authoritative Word. It consists of the Old Testament and the New Testament, which contain teachings, narratives, prophecies, and instructions intended to guide believers in their faith and conduct.

Living Word: The term "Living Word" typically refers to Jesus Christ in Christian theology. He is often described as the Word made flesh (John 1:14) and is considered the embodiment of God’s revelation to humanity. However, the Scriptures themselves are also referred to as living and active (Hebrews 4:12), meaning they have enduring relevance and transformative power in the lives of believers.

False Teachings: False teachings are doctrines or interpretations that deviate from the truth as revealed in Scripture. They may contradict biblical teachings or misinterpret the intended meaning of the text. Claiming that Scripture itself is false teachings would be contradictory to its foundational role as the inspired Word of God.

Interpretation and Understanding: It’s crucial to interpret Scripture correctly and understand its teachings within their historical, cultural, and literary contexts. Different interpretations may arise, but labeling Scripture itself as false teachings undermines its authority and the basis of Christian faith.

Therefore, according to mainstream Christian belief, Scripture is indeed regarded as God’s Living Word, inspired by the Holy Spirit and authoritative for faith and practice. It serves as a source of truth, guidance, and revelation for believers, rather than being categorized as false teachings.

The one with heretical false teachings is you @Ritajanice

 

[Ritajanice]

Show me where I post "other people's work?" You are about to fall into your own trap you set up for me. There is no excuse for being Scripture illiterate in this Age of Enlightenment @Ritajanice.

ChristisGod showed you last night.

I don’t need to be scripture literate Johan...why would I need to be scripture literate to know that I’m Born Again?

A Born Again grows and matures in the Spirit my friend...not by leading ourselves through scripture.

Who leads you through scripture to bring it to your understanding in your spirit?

 

[Ritajanice]

Error!

Scripture as God’s Word: In Christianity, the Bible is widely regarded as God’s inspired and authoritative Word. It consists of the Old Testament and the New Testament, which contain teachings, narratives, prophecies, and instructions intended to guide believers in their faith and conduct.

Living Word: The term "Living Word" typically refers to Jesus Christ in Christian theology. He is often described as the Word made flesh (John 1:14) and is considered the embodiment of God’s revelation to humanity. However, the Scriptures themselves are also referred to as living and active (Hebrews 4:12), meaning they have enduring relevance and transformative power in the lives of believers.

False Teachings: False teachings are doctrines or interpretations that deviate from the truth as revealed in Scripture. They may contradict biblical teachings or misinterpret the intended meaning of the text. Claiming that Scripture itself is false teachings would be contradictory to its foundational role as the inspired Word of God.

Interpretation and Understanding: It’s crucial to interpret Scripture correctly and understand its teachings within their historical, cultural, and literary contexts. Different interpretations may arise, but labeling Scripture itself as false teachings undermines its authority and the basis of Christian faith.

Therefore, according to mainstream Christian belief, Scripture is indeed regarded as God’s Living Word, inspired by the Holy Spirit and authoritative for faith and practice. It serves as a source of truth, guidance, and revelation for believers, rather than being categorized as false teachings.

The one with heretical false teachings is you @Ritajanice

Scripture is NOT Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Are you saying that the Bible is Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Are you sure you understood this scripture?

How can your spirit been Born from above...if it’s not by a Living Spirit birth?

Born of Gods Living seed @Johann ?

Your spirit must be Born Again?

Why?

How is Jesus explaining how we are Born Of The Spirit?

John 3​

King James Version​

3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit

 

[Johann]

I don’t need to be scripture literate Johan...why would I need to be scripture literate to know that I’m Born Again?

Error!

Scripture as God’s Word: In Christianity, the Bible is widely regarded as God’s inspired and authoritative Word. It consists of the Old Testament and the New Testament, which contain teachings, narratives, prophecies, and instructions intended to guide believers in their faith and conduct.

Living Word: The term "Living Word" typically refers to Jesus Christ in Christian theology. He is often described as the Word made flesh (John 1:14) and is considered the embodiment of God’s revelation to humanity. However, the Scriptures themselves are also referred to as living and active (Hebrews 4:12), meaning they have enduring relevance and transformative power in the lives of believers.

False Teachings: False teachings are doctrines or interpretations that deviate from the truth as revealed in Scripture. They may contradict biblical teachings or misinterpret the intended meaning of the text. Claiming that Scripture itself is false teachings would be contradictory to its foundational role as the inspired Word of God.

Interpretation and Understanding: It’s crucial to interpret Scripture correctly and understand its teachings within their historical, cultural, and literary contexts. Different interpretations may arise, but labeling Scripture itself as false teachings undermines its authority and the basis of Christian faith.

Therefore, according to mainstream Christian belief, Scripture is indeed regarded as God’s Living Word, inspired by the Holy Spirit and authoritative for faith and practice. It serves as a source of truth, guidance, and revelation for believers, rather than being categorized as false teachings.

The one with heretical false teachings is you @Ritajanice

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Something is about to "give" make no mistake-this can't go on indefinitely.
J.

It has sadly for awhile now

 

[Johann]

Scripture is NOT Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Proverbs 26:4 (NIV):

"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him."
Proverbs 23:9 (NIV):

"Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words."
Proverbs 29:9 (NIV):

"If a wise person goes to court with a fool, the fool rages and scoffs, and there is no peace."
Proverbs 9:7-8 (NIV):

"Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults; whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse. Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you."
Matthew 7:6 (NIV):

"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

These verses emphasize the wisdom of recognizing the limitations of trying to correct those who are unwilling to listen or learn, as such efforts can often be unproductive or even harmful.

 

[Ritajanice]

Error!

Scripture as God’s Word: In Christianity, the Bible is widely regarded as God’s inspired and authoritative Word. It consists of the Old Testament and the New Testament, which contain teachings, narratives, prophecies, and instructions intended to guide believers in their faith and conduct.

Living Word: The term "Living Word" typically refers to Jesus Christ in Christian theology. He is often described as the Word made flesh (John 1:14) and is considered the embodiment of God’s revelation to humanity. However, the Scriptures themselves are also referred to as living and active (Hebrews 4:12), meaning they have enduring relevance and transformative power in the lives of believers.

False Teachings: False teachings are doctrines or interpretations that deviate from the truth as revealed in Scripture. They may contradict biblical teachings or misinterpret the intended meaning of the text. Claiming that Scripture itself is false teachings would be contradictory to its foundational role as the inspired Word of God.

Interpretation and Understanding: It’s crucial to interpret Scripture correctly and understand its teachings within their historical, cultural, and literary contexts. Different interpretations may arise, but labeling Scripture itself as false teachings undermines its authority and the basis of Christian faith.

Therefore, according to mainstream Christian belief, Scripture is indeed regarded as God’s Living Word, inspired by the Holy Spirit and authoritative for faith and practice. It serves as a source of truth, guidance, and revelation for believers, rather than being categorized as false teachings.

The one with heretical false teachings is you @Ritajanice

No error whatsoever you do not need to be scripture literate to be Born Again, you are the one in error...

So, I ask again?

Scripture is NOT Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Are you saying that the Bible is Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Are you sure you understood this scripture?

How can your spirit been Born from above...if it’s not by a Living Spirit birth?

Born of Gods Living seed @Johann ?

Your spirit must be Born Again?

Why?

How is Jesus explaining how we are Born Of The Spirit?

John 3​

King James Version​

3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit

 

[Ritajanice]

Proverbs 26:4 (NIV):

"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him."
Proverbs 23:9 (NIV):

"Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words."
Proverbs 29:9 (NIV):

"If a wise person goes to court with a fool, the fool rages and scoffs, and there is no peace."
Proverbs 9:7-8 (NIV):

"Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults; whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse. Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you."
Matthew 7:6 (NIV):

"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

These verses emphasize the wisdom of recognizing the limitations of trying to correct those who are unwilling to listen or learn, as such efforts can often be unproductive or even harmful.

I ask you x2 now.

No error whatsoever you do not need to be scripture literate to be Born Again, you are the one in error...

So, I ask again?

Scripture is NOT Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Are you saying that the Bible is Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Are you sure you understood this scripture?

How can your spirit been Born from above...if it’s not by a Living Spirit birth?

Born of Gods Living seed @Johann ?

Your spirit must be Born Again?

Why?

How is Jesus explaining how we are Born Of The Spirit?

John 3​

King James Version​

3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Where is it?

If you really wanted to know you would go look..

The scripture is not Gods Living word that is false teachings.

The scripture itself says it is.

I will go with that.

Did you read my post..what we believe the Spirit to be witnessing to our spirit, we then check what he says with Gods written word?

Yes,

But anyone can say this, this is WHY the word must be used.

You can say the spirit, I can say the spirit But if the word ones not back us up. We have nothing. Just words.

I’ve already explained how he speaks to us.

So have I

Your turn.or did I miss your answer?

lol..As usual you either missed it or ignored it

Sorry , it makes God right ..the Spirit of God cannot indwell a sinner..

Well then no one can be saved.

we can only be set free from sin ,when we have been Born Of God’s seed.

I was set free from sin, It does not mean I still do not sin.

More importantly I have been set free from the penalty of sin.

Trust me, I’m keeping a very close on the questions and I am writing down your replies so I don’t miss them.

Yet you still miss them, I pray you try harder

I will scan my questions and I will scan to see if you answer them.

I have..

Whether you believe me or not.. Stopped being an issue awhile ago. Except when you claim we have not,

 

[Ritajanice]

If you really wanted to know you would go look..

The scripture itself says it is.

No it does not say that the Bible is God.

God is everywhere His Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit is everywhere?

Do you deny this?

I will go with that.

Yes,

But anyone can say this, this is WHY the word must be used.

I explained about God’s witness, did you read what I Said?

You can say the spirit, I can say the spirit But if the word ones not back us up. We have nothing. Just words.

Did I not just explain about God’s Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit.in a post, did you miss it?

So have I

lol..As usual you either missed it or ignored it

Well then no one can be saved.

One can only be saved from eternal damnation..Born Again saved from eternal damnation...

I was set free from sin, It does not mean I still do not sin.

Already explained about the seed ..a Living seed, where do you think that seed is planted?

Who makes our spirit Born Again..a Bible or Gods Living seed @Eternally Grateful ?
God has already told us where?

More importantly I have been set free from the penalty of sin.

You can’t be set free from sin, not until God forgives your sin, then makes us Born Again by His Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit.

Yet you still miss them, I pray you try harder

I have..

Whether you believe me or not.. Stopped being an issue awhile ago. Except when you claim we have not,

I don’t believe you and I certainly don’t believe regarding being Born Again..I can only go by Gods Witness His Living Holy Spirit..then His testifying with my spirit Gods truth is backed up by Gods written word.

 

[Johann]

I ask you x2 now.

No error whatsoever you do not need to be scripture literate to be Born Again, you are the one in error...

So, I ask again?

Scripture is NOT Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Are you saying that the Bible is Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Are you sure you understood this scripture?

How can your spirit been Born from above...if it’s not by a Living Spirit birth?

Born of Gods Living seed @Johann ?

Your spirit must be Born Again?

Why?

How is Jesus explaining how we are Born Of The Spirit?

John 3​

King James Version​

3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit

Already answered, multiple times. Not my problem if you don't have eyes to see nor ears to hear.

Proverbs 26:4 (NIV):

"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him."
Proverbs 23:9 (NIV):

"Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words."
Proverbs 29:9 (NIV):

"If a wise person goes to court with a fool, the fool rages and scoffs, and there is no peace."
Proverbs 9:7-8 (NIV):

"Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults; whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse. Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you."
Matthew 7:6 (NIV):

"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."
These verses emphasize the wisdom of recognizing the limitations of trying to correct those who are unwilling to listen or learn, as such efforts can often be unproductive or even harmful.