I Feel Lost

[MorningDance13]

So I am recovered from Substance Use Disorder.
Working on disordered eating.
Was involved in 12-Step Land off and on for 28 years but not for the last 8 and 1/2.
Have been involved with SMART Recovery off and on since December 2017.
I don't really fit in with SMART although a lot of their tools, coping mechanisms, and skills are extremely helpful.
I joined this message board specifically to get support and perhaps give support to others around recovery issues.
Peace, love, blessings, and light in Him
I got saved in the spring of 1988 at the age of 22 and have been trying to follow the L-rd and walk with Him since then.
MorningDance13

 

[Taken]

:So I am basically recovered from Substance Use Disorder.
Working on disordered eating.
Was involved in 12-Step Land off and on for 28 years but not for the last 8 and 1/2.
Have been involved with SMART Recovery off and on since December 2017.
I don't really fit in with smart although a lot of their tools, coping mechanisms, and skills are extremely helpful.
I joined this message board specifically to get support and perhaps give support to others around recovery issues.
Peace, love, blessings, and light in Him
MorningDance13

Hi MorningDance13:

Keeping to the BASICS…
ABUSE, is simply a Weakness to Over indulge, RATHER than stand Strong in Moderation.

Man-made “programs” are broadly “designed” TO: Psychologically
Recognize a WEAKNESS.
Not consider MODERATION.
Eliminate MODERATION options.
AND to: Remember, Focus, Celebrate, day, months, years of eliminating moderation options.
AND to: Remember the negative consequences, repercussions. of being being told, of feeling a failure, of moderation…and return to full blast indulgence.

Positive AND Negative ARE natural human experiences…Moderation IS KEY.

And the KEY to Understanding IS:
Having Gods TRUTH “IN” one HEART…
Fostering, Allowing the Hearts TRUTH to supersede, take control OVER the Mind.

God Bless you,

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[MorningDance13]

Hi MorningDance13:

Keeping to the BASICS…
ABUSE, is simply a Weakness to Over indulge, RATHER than stand Strong in Moderation.

Man-made “programs” are broadly “designed” TO: Psychologically
Recognize a WEAKNESS.
Not consider MODERATION.
Eliminate MODERATION options.
AND to: Remember, Focus, Celebrate, day, months, years of eliminating moderation options.
AND to: Remember the negative consequences, repercussions. of being being told, of feeling a failure, of moderation…and return to full blast indulgence.

Positive AND Negative ARE natural human experiences…Moderation IS KEY.

And the KEY to Understanding IS:
Having Gods TRUTH “IN” one HEART…
Fostering, Allowing the Hearts TRUTH to supersede, take control OVER the Mind.

God Bless you,

Glory to God,
Taken

I'm extremely confused by what you're trying to say there.
The words in all caps is especially confusing.
And then it actually sounds like you're telling me I'm supposed to be moderating use of addictive substances which sounds both asinine and ludicrous no personal offense.
Well first it sounds like you're saying don't moderate and then it sounds like you're saying do moderate.
Plus you obviously know absolutely nothing about SMART recovery if you say it's geared around recognizing weaknesses because that's the exact opposite of what it does.
The misuse of the colons in the middle of the sentences is really throwing off my ability to comprehend what you're trying to say.
Thank you however for trying at any rate at least you tried more than most people are doing in my life now

 

[Taken]

I'm extremely confused by what you're trying to say there.
The words in all caps is especially confusing.
And then it actually sounds like you're telling me I'm supposed to be moderating use of addictive substances which sounds both asinine and ludicrous no personal offense.
Well first it sounds like you're saying don't moderate and then it sounds like you're saying do moderate.
Plus you obviously know absolutely nothing about SMART recovery if you say it's geared around recognizing weaknesses because that's the exact opposite of what it does.
The misuse of the colons in the middle of the sentences is really throwing off my ability to comprehend what you're trying to say.
Thank you however for trying at any rate at least you tried more than most people are doing in my life now

Many THINGS can be “addictive”… for examples:
Smoking, alcohol, street drugs, prescription drugs, sex, greed, money, deceiving, food, power…basically ANYTHING that “consumes” an individuals thoughts, drive, continually.

it stems from a Carnal MIND… Knowing the difference between Moderation and NO limiting Indulgence…yet our own Carnal Minds can KNOW the TRUTH of the difference, YET Convince ourselves with the LIE we ALONE can SELF STICK to the TRUTH.

THAT is the basis of human, natural EVER changing Carnal Mind….
Which “effectively” presents and natural “INTERNAL” CONFLICT…

The humans thoughts of his natural heart (ie natural spirit)….natural TRUTH…can KNOW…
Indulging IN this or THAT…leads to destruction.
The humans thoughts of his natural Carnal Mind (brain)….can certainly know, agree, with the natural spirits (truth) thoughts……YET….
Proceed to MAKE “excuses”, “form ideas”, to “get around” TRUSTING his own (hearts TRUTH), and acting rather on his Carnal Minds (deceptive, getting around the truth.)

Every…(man-made) solution for “INTERNAL” Conflict…between a mans Carnal Mind and natural spirit in his Heart….
IS…a man-devised “solution”…
* First “giving a NAME” to the “issue”…
Mental Illness, insane, bi-polar, schizophrenia, psychotic ….etc.
* Then “analyzing” the “issue”.
* Then “devising a TREATMENT” for the “issue”…

My POINT IS: God already OFFERED every man, a COMPLETE TRUSTWORTHY TREATMENT…for every humans “INTERNAL Conflict”…between his Carnal Mind and spirit in his Heart.

It’s called, the agreement of a man to Receive the Offered Gift from God, Called the Baptism of Gods Holy Spirit.

It is A realization, that the “weakness” no longer IS the Focus, but rather, the “strength” becomes the Focus.

My point was…man-made “solutions”, continue keeping the “weakness” the focus…
The chatter, reminding, continual pointing out….
Whereas with Gods solution, the “strength” is the focus, the chatter, the reminding, continual pointing out…

Sorry if I am inept in conveying my point with clarity to you.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[MorningDance13]

EDIT:To make less harsh

I still have no earthly clue whether you are saying that moderation is achievable after a person develops an addiction.

I do see very clearly you saying that addiction is not a physical thing which is absolutely not true.
Do you think that people actually die from alcohol withdrawal because of their minds and their spirits and nothing to do with their bodies?
Many substances are physically addictive!
Even the majority of behaviors to which people become addicted are actually physically addictive because of the hormones and neurotransmitters and what not they cause to be created in the body.

Then after a couple paragraphs of the exact same stuff you said in the first message that I couldn't comprehend you actually have the temerity to deny that mental illness / psychiatric illnesses are real!
I actually find that terrifying.

After I left the site and went someplace else I realized that what I'm feeling and thinking is that this is reminding me of Science And Health and the other stuff that Mary Baker Eddy the false prophet of that counterfeit religion Christian Science wrote and I used to try to read and understand.

This is very important for me to know now if Taken's viewpoint is that of Celebrate Recovery.
If it is I'm not going to waste any more time and energy but rather look someplace else for real help

 

[Wrangler]

I still have no earthly clue whether you are saying that moderation is achievable after a person develops an addiction.

If I may ... My 1st gf had an eating disorder. Compared to drug abusers, she observed the specific challenge for her addiction is that she cannot stop eating for ever. A drug addict can live without ever consuming the drug he developed an addiction to. The same is not true for anyone with a food addiction. Ergo, devotion to moderation.

Frankly, this is the solution to all the 7 Deadly Sins. They are all indulgences, excess. For instance:

1. it is not a sin to be angry; it is a sin to allow it to become wrath.
2. It is not a sin to get what you earn; it is a sin to be greedy.
3. It is not a rest (in fact, it is commanded); it is a sin to be lazy.
4. it is not a sin to have sexual desire; it is a sin to lust.

A fruit of the Spirit is self-control and all of these sins are sins one is out of control, acting outside the virtue of moderation.

 

[MorningDance13]

If I may ... My 1st gf had an eating disorder. Compared to drug abusers, she observed the specific challenge for her addiction is that she cannot stop eating for ever. A drug addict can live without ever consuming the drug he developed an addiction to. The same is not true for anyone with a food addiction. Ergo, devotion to moderation.

Frankly, this is the solution to all the 7 Deadly Sins. They are all indulgences, excess. For instance:

1. it is not a sin to be angry; it is a sin to allow it to become wrath.
2. It is not a sin to get what you earn; it is a sin to be greedy.
3. It is not a rest (in fact, it is commanded); it is a sin to be lazy.
4. it is not a sin to have sexual desire; it is a sin to lust.

A fruit of the Spirit is self-control and all of these sins are sins one is out of control, acting outside the virtue of moderation.

That doesn't sound anywhere near like what you were saying before.

Also as far as people with eating disorders go we usually discover there are things we are calling food that are in fact addictive substances and not food at all like refined sugar and white flour.
Yes those are physically addictive substances.
As a matter of fact recent science has proven that refined sugar is 10 times more addictive than cocaine.

 

[MorningDance13]

EDIT:To make less harsh

I still have no earthly clue whether you are saying that moderation is achievable after a person develops an addiction.

I do see very clearly you saying that addiction is not a physical thing which is absolutely not true.
Do you think that people actually die from alcohol withdrawal because of their minds and their spirits and nothing to do with their bodies?
Many substances are physically addictive!
Even the majority of behaviors to which people become addicted are actually physically addictive because of the hormones and neurotransmitters and what not they cause to be created in the body.

Then after a couple paragraphs of the exact same stuff you said in the first message that I couldn't comprehend you actually have the temerity to deny that mental illness / psychiatric illnesses are real!
I actually find that terrifying.

After I left the site and went someplace else I realized that what I'm feeling and thinking is that this is reminding me of Science And Health and the other stuff that Mary Baker Eddy the false prophet of that counterfeit religion Christian Science wrote and I used to try to read and understand.

This is very important for me to know now if Taken's viewpoint is that of Celebrate Recovery.
If it is I'm not going to waste any more time and energy but rather look someplace else for real help

I just realized that I thought I was on a different website. This is not the Celebrate Recovery website thankfully

 

[Wrangler]

That doesn't sound anywhere near like what you were saying before.

1st post. You must be confusing me with @Taken.

things we are calling food that are in fact addictive substances and not food at all like refined sugar and white flour.
Yes those are physically addictive substances.
As a matter of fact recent science has proven that refined sugar is 10 times more addictive than cocaine.

Very good point!

 

[MorningDance13]

1st post. You must be confusing me with @Taken.


Very good point!

I'm sorry.
I was confusing you with somebody else.
I seem to have been very confused this morning for some reason.
It's a good thing I don't take drugs anymore or I would REALLY be confused.
I like the points that you made about the seven deadly sins and how there can be something that's not a sin but if it's taken to the extreme end of the spectrum it becomes wrong.
Peace

 

[Mayflower]

Welcome to the site. I come in every once in awhile. I miss everyone. Prayers you will feel uplifted here. The praise forum is really nice. Uplifting scriptures and songs

 

[Raccoon1010]

I am already suspicious when the 12 step program is mentioned. I will give the proper direction again:

First I will give some wisdom on the issues of prohibition in the United States, and pre-modern society proper use of nature's remedies. And then I will get to the problem of switching addictions.

First the education on those things:

I don't even recall, having been falsely indoctrinated by a 12 step bizarre experience myself years ago, that I had never once ever heard the proper name for God which is Christian and that is God the Father, Jesus the Christ his son, and the Holy Ghost. I don't recall properly being introduced into God's saving grace and other healing spiritual gifts even once in that program.

I know the origins of the "Dr. Bob and Mr. Bill" 12-step program to have been opioid pandemic early in USA history together with alcohol abuse in society and thus being judged by their community as less than others in demeanor and stature as respectable citizens. Dr. Bob was using his own opioid prescriptions to self medicate, as well as Mr. Bill with his over use of alcohol. I believe they created the program as a type of "anonymous" meeting to hide from society as to not be exposed and judged by that community. It was cowboy days back then in early history.

Today we find a lot of court involvement which probably is ready to judge people and demand their sobriety. I thought the real issue was criminal behavior that they had a problem with. What I in fact found was a zero tolerance for alcohol and other substances by the courts. I don't find that in the bible at all or in the true nature of the 12 step program origins. So I advise caution. But I do believe the program focuses on addiction to spread the termination of use of certain substances and talk about things in private. It doesn't appear in the bible and does not appear to have a Christian background. Further, I find an intolerance in government for even "smoking" tobacco. Which has only furthered the assault on some herbal God created substances as well as traditional strong drink and wine that is directed in the bible appropriately for consumption for certain pain and other relief. The concern I found was in what is called "prohibition" nonsense. And that is where old people and suffering people are not allowed to choose their own medication for relief of pain symptoms. They are now days sent to a doctor and might be medicated with pain relieving medications and probably denied those treatments. They often offer more, what I consider, dangerous medications that can actually do more damage to the body. And I honestly don't see proper warnings on those medications. I also found that he FDA is ready to approve medications after short clinical trials on study subjects. And then often the case we find is damage and lawsuits around approximately 10 years later.

The bible has a long, thousands of years of alcohol use and other herbs for treatment of people. I didn't see to much problems there, but did notice some areas in the bible where people made covenants to withstain from alcohol use. Later Jesus did give bread and wine for his Holy Sacred ordinance of the New Covenant which is eternal life when actually receiving his body and blood which is the Holy Christ and lamb of God.

Now for the switching addictions problem that the 12-step program that is facing in all reality:

We as humans are born, raised in families, with friends, schools and later work environment and along the way, let's face it, we get damaged, mentally, emotionally, physically and even spiritually. And that causes problems in our moderation of healthy substances like alcohol. Many people use those substances in a social setting and some for relaxation at the end of a stressful day. Let's face it the modern high speed, high stress environment, we face today is different than the many years ago.

There is the distraction and deception that counselors or that man created language and ideas called psychology can even help people in that regard. But when there is "damage" which probably is from some form of abuse mentally, emotionally, physically or spiritually, no human is any real help at all. Some ethical and moral medicine does exist where doctors can help with certain bacterial, viral and other injuries and damage to the body. But as far as those other abuse injuries, only the Good Physician who is God can alleviate that injury and affliction. There is certainly much money to be made in frivolous medical, psychiatric, and psychological practices. A psychiatrist can certain medicate a symptom and hide the real illness for a time, but the problem does not go away. I'm afraid and concerned that treating those illnesses that way only masks the problem which degrades over time and builds up so that either an increase in medication or something bad is the outcome. Eventually the problem might become disabling. These days with all the immigrants and illegal immigrants and other payments the government makes, I'm don't know that people will be treated in a disability care program. Disability care programs are defined by the local and federal governments for what is "disabled".

The "switching addiction" is nothing more than being injured mentally, emotionally, physically and/or spiritually and seeking some form of comfort for that pain. Often it manifests in various forms like substance abuse, sexual addictions, gambling, and so on and so forth. This includes the so called "dry drunk" syndrome in which a person may be functional and also damaging to society as they engage with that society.

Again the Lord is the only God that can heal people. And what we do there is not a 12 step program promoting "prohibition" from man made ideas, but rather serve the Lord God and his children and receive the Holy Spirit comforter and healing from God. When we continue to do that we replace the in-efficient 12-step nonsense, with something real that has actually value in salvation of our souls and others. IN contrast, I have seen 12-step program people maintain their sobriety, while directing that pain to control, manipulate and coerce others into sexual problems and perhaps even eating disorders.

===================================================================================

My Statement for help from Addiction is the following:

We are baptized confessing our sins, Prayed over to receive the Holy Spirit by Priests of God, Received the Bread and Wine of the New Covenant of Jesus the Christ

Baptism, Confirmation for the Hole Ghost & Sacrament

Then we continue in doing the following:

Honoring God
Obeying the Commandments
Praying
Reading Scriptures
Attending a Church
Serving Others in Charity
Proclaiming the Gospel
Etc...

 

[MorningDance13]

One thing I do have on my mind if you could clarify please do, You state that you will give the instructions 'again' yet this is the first comment you have made in this thread so it's not possible to be 'again'.

 

[MorningDance13]

I am already suspicious when the 12 step program is mentioned. I will give the proper direction again:

First I will give some wisdom on the issues of prohibition in the United States, and pre-modern society proper use of nature's remedies. And then I will get to the problem of switching addictions.

First the education on those things:

I don't even recall, having been falsely indoctrinated by a 12 step bizarre experience myself years ago, that I had never once ever heard the proper name for God which is Christian and that is God the Father, Jesus the Christ his son, and the Holy Ghost. I don't recall properly being introduced into God's saving grace and other healing spiritual gifts even once in that program.

I know the origins of the "Dr. Bob and Mr. Bill" 12-step program to have been opioid pandemic early in USA history together with alcohol abuse in society and thus being judged by their community as less than others in demeanor and stature as respectable citizens. Dr. Bob was using his own opioid prescriptions to self medicate, as well as Mr. Bill with his over use of alcohol. I believe they created the program as a type of "anonymous" meeting to hide from society as to not be exposed and judged by that community. It was cowboy days back then in early history.

Today we find a lot of court involvement which probably is ready to judge people and demand their sobriety. I thought the real issue was criminal behavior that they had a problem with. What I in fact found was a zero tolerance for alcohol and other substances by the courts. I don't find that in the bible at all or in the true nature of the 12 step program origins. So I advise caution. But I do believe the program focuses on addiction to spread the termination of use of certain substances and talk about things in private. It doesn't appear in the bible and does not appear to have a Christian background. Further, I find an intolerance in government for even "smoking" tobacco. Which has only furthered the assault on some herbal God created substances as well as traditional strong drink and wine that is directed in the bible appropriately for consumption for certain pain and other relief. The concern I found was in what is called "prohibition" nonsense. And that is where old people and suffering people are not allowed to choose their own medication for relief of pain symptoms. They are now days sent to a doctor and might be medicated with pain relieving medications and probably denied those treatments. They often offer more, what I consider, dangerous medications that can actually do more damage to the body. And I honestly don't see proper warnings on those medications. I also found that he FDA is ready to approve medications after short clinical trials on study subjects. And then often the case we find is damage and lawsuits around approximately 10 years later.

The bible has a long, thousands of years of alcohol use and other herbs for treatment of people. I didn't see to much problems there, but did notice some areas in the bible where people made covenants to withstain from alcohol use. Later Jesus did give bread and wine for his Holy Sacred ordinance of the New Covenant which is eternal life when actually receiving his body and blood which is the Holy Christ and lamb of God.

Now for the switching addictions problem that the 12-step program that is facing in all reality:

We as humans are born, raised in families, with friends, schools and later work environment and along the way, let's face it, we get damaged, mentally, emotionally, physically and even spiritually. And that causes problems in our moderation of healthy substances like alcohol. Many people use those substances in a social setting and some for relaxation at the end of a stressful day. Let's face it the modern high speed, high stress environment, we face today is different than the many years ago.

There is the distraction and deception that counselors or that man created language and ideas called psychology can even help people in that regard. But when there is "damage" which probably is from some form of abuse mentally, emotionally, physically or spiritually, no human is any real help at all. Some ethical and moral medicine does exist where doctors can help with certain bacterial, viral and other injuries and damage to the body. But as far as those other abuse injuries, only the Good Physician who is God can alleviate that injury and affliction. There is certainly much money to be made in frivolous medical, psychiatric, and psychological practices. A psychiatrist can certain medicate a symptom and hide the real illness for a time, but the problem does not go away. I'm afraid and concerned that treating those illnesses that way only masks the problem which degrades over time and builds up so that either an increase in medication or something bad is the outcome. Eventually the problem might become disabling. These days with all the immigrants and illegal immigrants and other payments the government makes, I'm don't know that people will be treated in a disability care program. Disability care programs are defined by the local and federal governments for what is "disabled".

The "switching addiction" is nothing more than being injured mentally, emotionally, physically and/or spiritually and seeking some form of comfort for that pain. Often it manifests in various forms like substance abuse, sexual addictions, gambling, and so on and so forth. This includes the so called "dry drunk" syndrome in which a person may be functional and also damaging to society as they engage with that society.

Again the Lord is the only God that can heal people. And what we do there is not a 12 step program promoting "prohibition" from man made ideas, but rather serve the Lord God and his children and receive the Holy Spirit comforter and healing from God. When we continue to do that we replace the in-efficient 12-step nonsense, with something real that has actually value in salvation of our souls and others. IN contrast, I have seen 12-step program people maintain their sobriety, while directing that pain to control, manipulate and coerce others into sexual problems and perhaps even eating disorders.

===================================================================================

My Statement for help from Addiction is the following:

We are baptized confessing our sins, Prayed over to receive the Holy Spirit by Priests of God, Received the Bread and Wine of the New Covenant of Jesus the Christ

Baptism, Confirmation for the Hole Ghost & Sacrament

Then we continue in doing the following:

Honoring God
Obeying the Commandments
Praying
Reading Scriptures
Attending a Church
Serving Others in Charity
Proclaiming the Gospel
Etc...

Why are you suspicious of me because I left a dangerous, toxic, abusive cult?
I would think that coming to the realization that that is a place that I do not belong and leaving it behind would show that I am a trustworthy person who has my act together.

 

[MorningDance13]

Why are you suspicious of me because I left a dangerous, toxic, abusive cult?
I would think that coming to the realization that that is a place that I do not belong and leaving it behind would show that I am a trustworthy person who has my act together.

Of course you would not have been introduced to the proper Names for Hashem and how to follow Him correctly in a place that does not claim to be a Christian organization.

Technically and accurately Dr Bob and The Grifter did not create Alcoholics Anonymous but rather it evolved from the radical quasi-Christian organization The Oxford Group.

Messiah Yeshua did not start a new thing but rather they were celebrating the Passover Seder the Jewish people had been observing for centuries.
Remember Yeshua and all His original followers were religious Jews practicing (Biblical) Judaism.
He said when you do this remember Me which means He was commanding us to continue to celebrate the Passover.
If you are not familiar with what happens during a Seder there are certain times where certain prayers are said and then a sip of wine is taken or a bite of unleavened bread.

I do not know why you are blathering on and on endlessly about 12-Step-Land when I stated clearly in my introductory statement that I left 12-Step-Land 8 and 1/2 years ago and have nothing more to do with them (with the exception of the rare few ideas I learned there that are helpful).

Seriously?!?! 'No human is any real help at all, language is created by humans, psychology is man-made and useless'?!?!
Why then does the L-rd G-d Almighty Himself tell us in His holy blessed Word to help one another, sing Psalms and hymns to one another, pray for one another, et al?
Is He stupid?
Does He not know what He is talking about?
If the L-rd G-d does not use people to help one another to heal then why on Earth are you even here on this message board?
Why aren't you and G-d off somewhere just the two of you?

Then you spout the arrent nonsense that 12-step people maintain their sobriety while doing certain horrible things you list.
Those people maybe physically abstinent from drugs including alcohol but they are not sober psychologically, emotionally, or spiritually if they are controlling and manipulating and abusing people.
Abuse is not sober behavior.

And what psychotic claptrap are you spouting about illegal immigrants are the only people that have disabilities and they don't really have disabilities it's just a conspiracy theory fabricated by the government?

And you seem to be saying that psychiatric illnesses do not exist!
Are you for real?
Psychiatric illnesses are very real and the medication does in fact actually work and what you are saying belongs thousands of years ago in the Dark Ages.

And alcohol is not a healthy substance but rather it is a toxic poison.
The reason we get buzzed when we consume it is because that is how the body reacts to being poisoned by that toxic substance.
Yes the world is scary and difficult and the answer isn't to take a drug like alcohol but to turn to the L-rd G-d Almighty and His word and other Believers.

People do not receive Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Spirit not ghost) because some people claiming to be priests or special pray over them but rather people receive Ruach Hakodesh when they turn to the One True Living G-d in true repentance and receive the free gift of salvation that Messiah Yeshua purchased with His death and Resurrection.

 

[Angelina]

Hi @MorningDance13. Welcome to CyB

:So I am basically recovered from Substance Use Disorder.
Working on disordered eating.
Was involved in 12-Step Land off and on for 28 years but not for the last 8 and 1/2.
Have been involved with SMART Recovery off and on since December 2017.
I don't really fit in with SMART although a lot of their tools, coping mechanisms, and skills are extremely helpful.
I joined this message board specifically to get support and perhaps give support to others around recovery issues.
Peace, love, blessings, and light in Him
I got saved in the spring of 1988 at the age of 22 and have been trying to follow the L-rd and walk with Him since then.
MorningDance13

I'm sorry to hear that you are struggling in this area of Substance Use Disorder. If there is anything I could do to help or support you, please reach out here or give me a PM. Glad to have you aboard.

Angelina

 

[MorningDance13]

Greetings Angelina, thank you very much for reaching out to me which I appreciate.
I actually am not 'struggling with' Substance Use Disorder at all as I stated in my introduction.
I have been completely delivered, set free and am recovered from SUD. Praise Hashem.
And I am significantly delivered, set free, and recovered from eating disorder / disordered thinking & behaving around food.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Why are you suspicious of me because I left a dangerous, toxic, abusive cult?
I would think that coming to the realization that that is a place that I do not belong and leaving it behind would show that I am a trustworthy person who has my act together.

Not sure what you mean. I have investigated areas of concern with the direction of God. The post I made is correct and wisdom for Christians and a good direction for salvation away from worldly concerns.

I don't know what "cult" you are referring to. Could you explain what "cult" you are talking about?

 

[MorningDance13]

Not sure what you mean. I have investigated areas of concern with the direction of God. The post I made is correct and wisdom for Christians and a good direction for salvation away from worldly concerns.

I don't know what "cult" you are referring to. Could you explain what "cult" you are talking about?

Are you not paying attention to your very own comments?
The very first thing you said to me was, "I am already suspicious when the 12-step program is mentioned...".
12-Step-Land is the cult to which I was referring.

 

[Raccoon1010]

@MorningDance13 I have evaluated your thread and statements and you did indicate you are recovered from addiction. The only conclusion I can draw is that you are promoting the SMART program for an organization other than a Christian ministry program. I noticed that the "compass" symbol in the left pane of your avatar area indicated a "ChristianityBoard" web address, but unfortunately the address appears to be a hacking tool to direct the user off site and into google maps for some location.

I would then caution the users of this board to be cautious with clicking on any link provided by that user as it can be used to gain personal information from members of this community.