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Hobie

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Scripture please.
Mark 2:27
And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

Genesis 2:1-3
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
 

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And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Hobie, how long in human years was God's Sabbath Day?
 

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Hobie, how long in human years was God's Sabbath Day?
Well lets look in Gods Word as it is very clear the weekly cycle was set up and Sabbath was given to us at creation as the seventh day of the week as we read in Genesis, and they were literal 24 hour days as today. Many have tried to distort it, or say it was changed, or the weekly cycle or the days from Creation are not applicable or gone, yet the weekly cycle remains to this day, and testifies to Gods seventh day Sabbath from Creation Need to see the truth the Bible gives us...

Genesis 1
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
 

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Well lets look in Gods Word as it is very clear the weekly cycle was set up and Sabbath was given to us at creation as the seventh day of the week as we read in Genesis, and they were literal 24 hour days as today. Many have tried to distort it, or say it was changed, or the weekly cycle or the days from Creation are not applicable or gone, yet the weekly cycle remains to this day, and testifies to Gods seventh day Sabbath from Creation

Thank you Hobie, you have shown that your understanding of God's Sabbath day is based upon a false understanding.

From what is recorded in the book of Genesis, it seems to me that God rested for 1,024 years within man's reference frame of time.

This is also borne out in Isaiah 58 that the Sabbath Day in this chapter is also 1,024 years long within man's time frame of reference.

Oh well, it seems to me that your basis for your argument for both the weekly Sabbath Day within Man's time frame and the "New" Covenant is based more on man's understanding than on God's words.

Goodbye
 

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Mark 2:27
And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

Genesis 2:1-3
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
I don't know of anyone who obeys the Sabbath COMMANDS! Do you think those who work on weekends should be executed?
 

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I don't know of anyone who obeys the Sabbath COMMANDS! Do you think those who work on weekends should be executed?
Well, we do know what will happen to those who over them...
Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
 

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Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

I would paraphrase this verse in this manner: -

Rev 22:14: - Blessed are those who have washed their robes, as they have gained their liberty to the tree of life and may enter through the gates into the city.

In todays' context, I do not believe that the word "Right" conveys the intent of the Greek word "ἐξουσία" in that we must firstly meet the requirements to have access to the tree of life and to enter through the Gates into the city.
 

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Well, we do know what will happen to those who over them...
Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
The New Covenant is the commandments for Christians. The Law of Moses was ONLY for Israel, NOBODY else!

Matthew 22:37-40
37 Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.'
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'
40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
 

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The New Covenant is the commandments for Christians. The Law of Moses was ONLY for Israel, NOBODY else!

Matthew 22:37-40
37 Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.'
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'
40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Need to read your bible..

Jeremiah 31:31-33
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people

Hebrews 8:10
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
 

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Need to read your bible..

Jeremiah 31:31-33
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people
I have. Matthew - Revelation! The New Covenant! ZERO Sabbath commands!