Lessons learned from Jesus: the parable of the two sons, Biblical repentance #2
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Now I'll go along as long as you answer my questions first.
I will not give an answer to you when I've already asked a question.
It is impolite to ask more questions of me when you have not answered mine.
God taught me it at the time l was seeking entire sanctification. I have not read it anywhere else. It is not one that is usually discussed.
Oh I see.
Well friend I cannot reason with holiness folks.
They believe what they feel over what the Bible says.
If we do not have a standard of authority to go by as the final say i.e. The Holy Bible.
Then we cannot reason together or come to any understanding of what God means in His word to us.
I dont believe Gods Holy Spirit says something to you privately about His gospel that He does not reveal to everyone who wants to read it.
That would make God a respecter of persons,
Acts 10:34,
- then Peter opened His mouth and said, of truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons
It was nice to meet you
I cannot have respect for a man who makes a deal and then gets out of it by not answering my question .
The first son is compared to the prostitutes and publicans, who having initially said No, then repented in obedience to John the Baptist's preaching.
The second son is compared to the Pharisees,
Matthew 21:32 KJV
"For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not"
They claimed righteousness, but would not obey John's preaching.
Much love!
Thanks.
Now you know Biblical repentance is more than just changing the mind as you said.
Jesus shows it must be a turning from sin to God and doing works meet for repentance.
The publicans and prostitutes stopped committing their sins.
That is their repentance toward God.
Don't put words into my mouth. You know, we may actually agree on a lot of things, but you need to stop the agendas and games.
Biblical repentance is to change your mind, or more literally, to exchange one mind for another. Metanoia, the "after mind", that is, the mind that results from having made an exchange. That's the meaning of the word. I know you want it to mean more.
The point you are making, I'm guessing, is that real repentance results in a change. The repentance results in a change of behavior, but is not itself that change of behavior.
You presume to speak for me, and you are not doing so correctly. Better, in my opinion, to allow others to speak for themselves.
Much love!
No, I thought you had learned from this parable Jesus taught that true repentance must include cessation of ones sins and doing works meet for repentance.
I am sorry if you thought I was misrepresenting you.
Mark, if you don't agree, let's not continue this discussion its fruitless isnt it?
I will answer your question.
I forgot what it was and I can't seem to find it.
Just let me know and I'll answer.
Sorry
I thought you've already acknowledged that a repentant one may still sin, isn't that so?
Since when did any of us every fully stop sinning? God may give that gift of faith to those whom He chooses, that allows a complete walk in the Spirit. Aside from that, in the "normal Christian life", the spirit remains at war with the flesh, and we don't always do the things we would.
I never said anything of the sort. I continue to maintain that metanoia - repentance - means exactly what I've said it means.
Much love!
No you misunderstood me if that is what you believe I said.
I said we all sin.
I did not teach one sins when one repents.
Jesus teaches us from the parable of the two sons that one stops their sinning in true repentance.
As you admitted the publlicans and harlots stopped their sinning when they truly repented.
Could the harlots continue in prostitution and repented towards God, Mark?
What about the publicans? Could they continue to cheat people and have truly repented?
Everyone sins from time to time but those who continue in those sins are not penitent.
A heroin addict my have moments of weakness and use but if they have no intention of ever overcoming their sin by stopping heroin then they have not truly repented.
Well then you didn't learn anything from Jesus' parable and that's why you should leave my articles alone unless you think you can prove with Scripture, that I am misinterpreting Matthew 21:28-32
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