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Jer 6:14 “They have healed the brokenness of My people superficially,
Saying, ‘Peace, peace,'
But there is no peace.

I personally have really like what President Trump, I have to admire what he has accomplish. Putting our embassy in Jerusalem, was incredibly good and I think the importance of the move was understated. More incredible were the Abraham peace accords. Of course, the timing of the Hamas attack a week prior kept one of them from going into effect, which is if no surprise. Yet I believe the reason that all this is of no surprise is not what most people think!!

We do not battle with flesh and blood but powers and principalities, and the dark spiritual forces of this world. That is to say that it does not matter if Trump is successful, because ultimately, he won't be. Ultimately God will be successful - not Trump. That does not mean we don't want Trump to be successful, or that we don't want Trump to be as successful as he can. We need to want peace. And so if Trump is working towards peace, that is a good thing!!! Yet Trump is not going to get rid of the demons - those powers, principalities, and dark spiritual forces. Even if the USA used all it fleshy power to its full extinct, it is not going to change the powers, principalities, and dark spiritual forces. So my prayer about this is for our leaders, that God would give them wisdom, understanding, and knowledge, to do the job they need to do.

And I like the fact that saying God is no longer considered a bad word in the USA. I am thrilled as a Christian, that Kamala Harris, who told those who stated 'Jesus Christ is Lord' at her rally that they were in the wrong place. And it is not that I think President Trump is some great Christian, but I understand that the devil does not like the Jews, that the devil did not want the US embassy in Jerusalem, that the devil would not have like the Abraham peace accords, and that the devil would want trouble continuing in Gaza. In the Bible we see that God gave that area of land to the Israelites and seem to have made promises about bring them back to the land He promised them. So from what I see happening, it seems clear that God, the God of the Bible, the King of Kings and Lord or Lords, is using President Trump, at least in many of the things that if gone right in the middle east.

The point is: This last year I was at several Christian churches, that were praying from Trump, and we saw him become President. New we need to keep praying for him and we don't want to be negative about what he does, but take all things to the Lord, our Lord Jesus Christ, in prayer. Which is to say that concerning 'Trump, Gaza, and peace in the middle east' - we have to keep praying and trusting in the Lord and not get negative, but be thankful that God seems to be doing a work.
 

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I think you may be surprised to find there are those identifying as Christian who condemn our Brother Donald for wanting to help bring peace to the Middle East.

God bless and protect Trump. God bless and protect Americans and America from all enemies,both foreign and domestic.

Amen.
 
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I think you may be surprised to find there are those identifying as Christian who condemn our Brother Donald for wanting to help bring peace to the Middle East.

God bless and protect Trump. God bless and protect Americans and America from all enemies,both foreign and domestic.

Amen.
RATHER ODD though is HOW he goes about doing this .
YOU do realize abraham peace accords , interfaith
ITS ALL OF THE PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL VATICAN LED plan .
You all are being decieved just like the liberals were . THEY got you all now pepper .
TRUMP , VANCE
they do the work of the most liberal pope to sit the throne . THOUGHT YOU might wanna know that .
Peace in the middle east , abraham peace accords , interfiath
GUESS WE GOT A TON more catholics , progressive liberals on the site THAN I REALIZED .
YOU all are being decieved . BIDEN , HARRIS , they could not have convinced you all
BUT TRUMP CAN . THEY ALL DO the same work . You might wanna FLEE such men and fast .
 

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I think you may be surprised to find there are those identifying as Christian who condemn our Brother Donald for wanting to help bring peace to the Middle East.

God bless and protect Trump. God bless and protect Americans and America from all enemies,both foreign and domestic.

Amen.
RATHER ODD though is HOW he goes about doing this .
YOU do realize abraham peace accords , interfaith
ITS ALL OF THE PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL VATICAN LED plan .
You all are being decieved just like the liberals were . THEY got you all now pepper .
TRUMP , VANCE
they do the work of the most liberal pope to sit the throne . THOUGHT YOU might wanna know that .
Peace in the middle east , abraham peace accords , interfiath
GUESS WE GOT A TON more catholics , progressive liberals on the site THAN I REALIZED .
YOU all are being decieved . BIDEN , HARRIS , they could not have convinced you all
BUT TRUMP CAN . THEY ALL DO the same work . You might wanna FLEE such men and fast .
And there's the first one here.

More to come I'm sure. :(

Meanwhile for information purposes.
 

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And there's the first one here.

More to come I'm sure. :(

Meanwhile for information purposes.
Why not ask me who i voted for and who i support .
Oh thanks for the invite i shall do so .
HARRIS is of anti christ . BE A ICE COLD day in a real hot place before i support her .
BUT TRUMP and VANCE ARE DOING the same AGENDA through interfaith abraham peace accords .
ONLY you cannot see it .
THEY ALL believe in this junk . THAT IS THE ONE MAIN THING that all these politicians have in common .
I MEAN IT AINT THEIR POLICIES . ITS the idea that all religoins are serving the same GOD .
YES . YES . true biblcal christantiy WILL NOT BE TOLERATED MUCH LONGER
ALL will gather as a bird to a snare and all will believe in interfaiths message .
WELL when i say all , COUNT ME OUT , ITS OF ANTI CHRIST .
 

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There is only One God, and One Lord, and One Spirit of God, and God is One. Still all things were created through Him, the Lord our God Jesus Christ!

And if a person really believes in Him they talk to Him and listen to what He has to say to them, because God is omni-present. Where can you go that you will not find Him? So if you are from Isreal or Gaza, from the USA or Russia, from Rome or China, you need to know Him and that by hearing Him by faith.

So it is not about what "TRUMP OF VANCE" are doing but about praying for our leaders and that according to what we hear from Him, or did we not read in our Bibles that we are to listen to our Lord Jesus Christ, and also pray for our leaders?

And I am often:

surprised to find there are those identifying as Christian
... but don't seem to listen to Him.

I don't know about Trump, but I can see that God has used Him. And concerning Abram it is written:

Gen 12: 2,3 And I will make you a great nation,
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And so you shall be a blessing;
And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”

So is it not wise to be careful with the Jews?

Gen 12:7 The LORD appeared to Abram and said, “To your descendants I will give this land.” So he built an altar there to the LORD who had appeared to him.

I do indeed like the fact that our President tends to help Israel. Could it be that is the reason the USA is as nice a nation as it is? I do feel like me and my family here on earth have been blessed by Abraham and because I am blessed by the God of Abraham. And I want it to stay that way, so I voted for Trump because he tends to help Israel.
 
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There is only One God, and One Lord, and One Spirit of God, and God is One. Still all things were created through Him, the Lord our God Jesus Christ!

And if a person really believes in Him they talk to Him and listen to what He has to say to them, because God is omni-present. Where can you go that you will not find Him? So if you are from Isreal or Gaza, from the USA or Russia, from Rome or China, you need to know Him and that by hearing Him by faith.

So it is not about what "TRUMP OF VANCE" are doing but about praying for our leaders and that according to what we hear from Him, or did we not read in our Bibles that we are to listen to our Lord Jesus Christ, and also pray for our leaders?

And I am often:


... but don't seem to listen to Him.

I don't know about Trump, but I can see that God has used Him. And concerning Abram it is written:

Gen 12: 2,3 And I will make you a great nation,
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And so you shall be a blessing;
And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”

So is it not wise to be careful with the Jews?

Gen 12:7 The LORD appeared to Abram and said, “To your descendants I will give this land.” So he built an altar there to the LORD who had appeared to him.

I do indeed like the fact that our President tends to help Israel. Could it be that is the reason the USA is as nice a nation as it is? I do feel like me and my family here on earth have been blessed by Abraham and because I am blessed by the God of Abraham. And I want it to stay that way, so I voted for Trump because he tends to help Israel.
Things to do with this fallen world and its kings and kingdoms are often a mixture of good and evil (because it's of the wrong Tree in the Garden of Eden). We must not allow ourselves to be lured in and deceived by the supposed "good" part, like Eve was. As believers in the Lord Jesus Christ we are to account ourselves as sojourners here in this world, just passing through it and not be entangled in the civil political affairs of it. This world is God's business.......our business as the church is just to seek and grow HIS kingdom.
 

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Jer 6:14 “They have healed the brokenness of My people superficially,
Saying, ‘Peace, peace,'
But there is no peace.

I personally have really like what President Trump, I have to admire what he has accomplish. Putting our embassy in Jerusalem, was incredibly good and I think the importance of the move was understated. More incredible were the Abraham peace accords. Of course, the timing of the Hamas attack a week prior kept one of them from going into effect, which is if no surprise. Yet I believe the reason that all this is of no surprise is not what most people think!!

We do not battle with flesh and blood but powers and principalities, and the dark spiritual forces of this world. That is to say that it does not matter if Trump is successful, because ultimately, he won't be. Ultimately God will be successful - not Trump. That does not mean we don't want Trump to be successful, or that we don't want Trump to be as successful as he can. We need to want peace. And so if Trump is working towards peace, that is a good thing!!! Yet Trump is not going to get rid of the demons - those powers, principalities, and dark spiritual forces. Even if the USA used all it fleshy power to its full extinct, it is not going to change the powers, principalities, and dark spiritual forces. So my prayer about this is for our leaders, that God would give them wisdom, understanding, and knowledge, to do the job they need to do.

And I like the fact that saying God is no longer considered a bad word in the USA. I am thrilled as a Christian, that Kamala Harris, who told those who stated 'Jesus Christ is Lord' at her rally that they were in the wrong place. And it is not that I think President Trump is some great Christian, but I understand that the devil does not like the Jews, that the devil did not want the US embassy in Jerusalem, that the devil would not have like the Abraham peace accords, and that the devil would want trouble continuing in Gaza. In the Bible we see that God gave that area of land to the Israelites and seem to have made promises about bring them back to the land He promised them. So from what I see happening, it seems clear that God, the God of the Bible, the King of Kings and Lord or Lords, is using President Trump, at least in many of the things that if gone right in the middle east.

The point is: This last year I was at several Christian churches, that were praying from Trump, and we saw him become President. New we need to keep praying for him and we don't want to be negative about what he does, but take all things to the Lord, our Lord Jesus Christ, in prayer. Which is to say that concerning 'Trump, Gaza, and peace in the middle east' - we have to keep praying and trusting in the Lord and not get negative, but be thankful that God seems to be doing a work.
I am convinced that Trumps second term is merely the eye of the hurricane of Gods Judgment on america. Our sins as a nation make Sodom and gomorrha almost boy scoutish in comparison.

This may be the one last period we as the church has to gather in the harvest before it all hits the fan.
 

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I don't know about Trump, but I can see that God has used Him. And concerning Abram it is written:

Gen 12: 2,3 And I will make you a great nation,
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And so you shall be a blessing;
And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”

So is it not wise to be careful with the Jews?

Gen 12:7 The LORD appeared to Abram and said, “To your descendants I will give this land.” So he built an altar there to the LORD who had appeared to him.

I do indeed like the fact that our President tends to help Israel. Could it be that is the reason the USA is as nice a nation as it is? I do feel like me and my family here on earth have been blessed by Abraham and because I am blessed by the God of Abraham. And I want it to stay that way, so I voted for Trump because he tends to help Israel.
How is it that you fail to understand that the KoG no longer abides with the physical country of Israel today, and never will again?
Jesus said in:
Matt.21
[43] Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you [Jews], and given to a nation [of born again Christians] bringing forth the fruits thereof [of the Spirit].

As a person of God yourself, through faith in Jesus, do you justify genocide?
Apparently the Jews do!! And yet they claim to be the supposed "chosen" people of God?? Or is it simply the fact that you believe Jesus lied about them in Mat. 21:43?

So then, as for Trump joining hands with Netanyahu over Gaza, who says that you and I must agree?

 
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True Christians do not vote, but are politically neutral. Jesus gave these instructions hours before he was executed on a stake at the demand of the Jewish religious leaders (John 19:6, 15): "These things I command you, that you love one another (which politics destroys, fostering hate)."

"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you........"

"They will do all these things against you on account of my name, because they do not know the One (God, whose name is Jehovah, see Ex 6:3, KJV) who sent ("sent", Greek pempo, meaning "to dispatch on a temporary errand") me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin. But now they have no excuse for their sin. Whoever hates me also hates my Father (Jehovah)."

"If I had not done among them the works that no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have both seen me and hated me as well as my Father. But this happened in order to fulfill the word written in their Law: ‘They hated me without cause.’ "

"When the helper comes that I will send you from the Father, the spirit of the truth (or holy spirit), which comes from the Father (or Jehovah's life force that he uses to empower his people, Judges 15:14-16; Acts 5:32, revealing accurately what the Bible teaches, see Matt 11:25-26), that one will bear witness about me (as the promised Messiah, see Isa 53; Dan 9:24-27);"

"and you, in turn, are to bear witness (about Bible "truth", see John 18:37, about Jesus as Jehovah's "only-begotten Son", John 3:16, "the beginning of the creation by God", Rev 3:14, and God's heavenly Kingdom, see Matt 24:14; Rev 12:17, from "house to house", Acts 20:20, teaching "deserving ones", Matt 10:11-13) because you have been with me from the beginning."(John 15:17-19, 21-26)

Jesus now says: "I have said these things to you so that you may not be stumbled. Men will expel you (for becoming one of Jesus genuine disciples) from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone who kills you will think he has offered a sacred service to God.(see Acts 7:51-60, whereby Stephen called those in the Sanhedrin Jesus "betrayers and murderers", so that they stoned him to death)"

"But they will do these things because they have not come to know either the Father (Jehovah God, see John 7:28, 29, in which Jesus told the apostate Jews that "you do not know him. I know him, because I am a representative from him, and that One sent me") or me (as Jehovah's "messenger of the (new) covenant", Mal 3:1)."

"Nevertheless, I have told you these things so that when the hour for them to happen arrives (or when persecution breaks out shortly after Jesus execution on a stake, see Acts 4:1-3), you will remember that I told them to you."(John 16:1-4)

When Jesus was standing before Pilate, who asked if he was king of the Jews, Jesus responded: "My Kingdom is no part of this world (with its deadly, dirty and divisive politics called "a wild beast" at Rev 13, its false religious empire called Babylon the Great at Rev 17, and greedy commerce, called "the merchants of the earth" at Rev 18)."

"If my Kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought (as politics teaches, to "fight for your rights") that I should not be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my Kingdom is not from this source (or the world, that is controlled by "the dragon", Satan the Devil, Rev 12:9; see also John 14:30; 1 John 5:19).”(John 18:36)

At 2 Corinthians 10:3-5, the apostle Paul wrote: "For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warfare ("we do not wage warfare.” Literally, “we are not doing military service.” Greek, ou (meaning "the absolute negative, no or not") . . . stra·teu·o´me·tha (meaning "to serve in a military campaign"); Latin, non . . . mi·li·ta´mus) according to what we are in the flesh."

"For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things. For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are bringing every thought into captivity to make it obedient to the Christ;

The "strongly entrenched things" are all the falsehoods, lies (or "refuge of lies", Isa 28:17) told by mankind, told by the religions of the world called Babylon the Great, with Christendom being a major part, teaching such falsehoods as "the Holy Trinity", see 1 Cor 8:4-6, hell fire, see Jer 32:35, immortality of the soul, see Lev 23:30; Isa 53:12; Jeremiah 2:34, purgatory, see Ecc 9:5, 6; Ps 115:17; 146:3, 4, the cross, see Gal 3:13.

Transubstantiation, see Lev 17:10;Acts 15:20, 29, Easter, Christmas, see Luke 22:19, 20, birthdays, see Ecc 7:1, "Mary as the mother of God", see Luke 1:31-33; 11:27, 28, as being free of sin since conception, see Luke 22:22-24, being immersed in politics with its violence and feel they are "God's good graces", see Matt 26:52.

So, at James 4:4, James wrote: "Adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity (or hatred) with God ? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world (as with its deadly, dirty and divisive politics) is making himself an enemy of God."
 

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How is it that you fail to understand that the KoG no longer abides with the physical country of Israel today, and never will again?
Jesus said in:
Matt.21
[43] Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you [Jews], and given to a nation [of born again Christians] bringing forth the fruits thereof [of the Spirit].

As a person of God yourself, through faith in Jesus, do you justify genocide?
Apparently the Jews do!! And yet they claim to be the supposed "chosen" people of God?? Or is it simply the fact that you believe Jesus lied about them in Mat. 21:43?

So then, as for Trump joining hands with Netanyahu over Gaza, who says that you and I must agree?

Yes, I believe the "Israel of God" is the "nation" that God makes great in a manner of speaking. Not necessarily "Israel after the flesh"....unless it is ALSO referring to "Israel after the flesh" too, becoming great for a time....but that would have to do with matters of this fallen world, not God's kingdom.

My take is that I think it's possible Israel might be "justified" in doing what they are doing......as per Romans 13, concerning governments. But we as the church don't have a mandate for executing justice and meting out just deserts, we are about MERCY. God used Israel after the flesh before to mete out His just judgment/justice and wipe out the Canaanites. But those under the new covenant faith don't do that.
 
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Things to do with this fallen world and its kings and kingdoms are often a mixture of good and evil (because it's of the wrong Tree in the Garden of Eden). We must not allow ourselves to be lured in and deceived by the supposed "good" part, like Eve was. As believers in the Lord Jesus Christ we are to account ourselves as sojourners here in this world, just passing through it and not be entangled in the civil political affairs of it. This world is God's business.......our business as the church is just to seek and grow HIS kingdom.
Onward in the trenches dear sister .
 

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Not a lasting peace at any rate....since Jesus said there would be wars and rumours of wars, and also wars until the end. But I can't help but wonder if it's possible there might be some superficial peace long enough to deceive people.
Interfaith will grave them all till their be no place to even bury the dead .
It has come and offered up a false peace to this people , a solution they all beleive will lead to world peace , peace in
the middle east . It will lead only TO THE LIE and to the destruction of all who enter into its love covenant
which is NOT the LOVE of GOD , but is of the world .
 

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I am convinced that Trumps second term is merely the eye of the hurricane of Gods Judgment on america. Our sins as a nation make Sodom and gomorrha almost boy scoutish in comparison.

This may be the one last period we as the church has to gather in the harvest before it all hits the fan.
Oh its all gonna hit the fan too .
Many people have no idea what is and has been going on at all .
But allow me to remind us
of What GOD did to a king in israel .
A king in rebellion to GOD .
WHO shall go and deceive this people .
And a dark voice said , I WILL , I will go and be as a lying spirit in the mouths of all their prophets .
HOW SO
I will be a mouth in all the nar prophets , the liberal progressives , the realms of this world
and i will lead them to merge under a lie by making it seem as love , as necessary , as a means for peace n safety .
AND alas IT SURE HAS been doing just this .
A lying spirit is in the mouth of all these prophets to send this people and themselves
To what they believe can attain PEACE n safety , BUT WILL BE THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION by THE WRATH OF ALL MIGHTY GOD
and of the LAMB .
A strong delusion , a lying spirit has been sent now to UNIFY THIS PEOPLE by means of a common love
that came of the world to DESTROY THEM ALL . we better flee the pulpits
and dont even follow the progressive liberal OR the TRUMP train . ALL are being seduced
all are being decieved . AND i loves the people SO i warns the people .
 

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Not a lasting peace at any rate....since Jesus said there would be wars and rumours of wars, and also wars until the end. But I can't help but wonder if it's possible there might be some superficial peace long enough to deceive people.
Yes, I believe there will be a false peace.

Daniel 8:25
And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.


I expect persecution of true believers will increase greatly. And yet, I believe God has and will establish Goshens.
 
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