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Genesis
2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
( Remember that this is God's word and it has never changed, even though we have inherited disobedience from Adam and Eve, all we need to know is obedience to the word of God. )

Genesis
3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
(every word here is a lie, if we don't know the word of God, we never know the good and evil, In other words, we only need to know God's word, not the so-called good and evil.)

What if we don't know the word of God?
We will be like the world today, call good evil,call evil good.(blind and Deaf)

That's why the world is so badly sometimes,becaus all human living under a lie that We have been eating from the tree of good and evil from the beginning until now. God said not to eat it.

The Gospel is the good news of God's salvation.born again in the word of God though Jesus Christ.

Praise the Lord and praise God.
 

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What if we don't know the word of God?
We will be like the world today, call good evil,call evil good.(blind and Deaf)

That's why the world is so badly sometimes,becaus all human living under a lie that We have been eating from the tree of good and evil from the beginning until now. God said not to eat it.

The Gospel is the good news of God's salvation.born again in the word of God though Jesus Christ.
I completely agree with this. When people do not know the Word of God, they become confused, easily deceived, and begin to adopt the standards of the world. Isaiah 5:20 warns, “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.” This is exactly what we see happening today—even among many who claim to be Christians. They do not truly know the Scriptures, and as a result, they approve of things God clearly calls sin, and reject things He calls righteous.

Jesus said, “If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free” (John 8:31-32). Those who do not remain in His Word are not truly His followers, no matter what they claim. In fact, 1 John 2:4 says, “Whoever says ‘I know him’ but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” True believers are born again through the living and abiding Word of God (1 Peter 1:23), and they hunger for that Word because it is their life.

The problem isn’t just ignorance—it’s rebellion against the truth. Many have itching ears and turn to teachings that suit their own desires (2 Timothy 4:3-4). But God’s people are called to stand on His Word, to be set apart from the world, and to shine as lights in the darkness (Philippians 2:15). Without the Word, we are blind and deaf spiritually—and sadly, that describes much of what is falsely called Christianity today.

Thank you for the thought-provoking post. I enjoyed reading it and thinking about it.
 

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Don't learn to know good and evil. Learn God's word. Only God's word is good.

What if we don't know the word of God?
Jesus spoke of knowing his voice. By knowing God's word, we also know his Spirit. From this orientation, it is painfully obvious when one speaks in a way that is inconsistent. By this, you know it is not from God even though it sounds good from a human perspective.
 

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How does the following relate to the OP and to us?

Joh 14:26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Ac 1:8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Ac 2:38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Ac 2:39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Have we been called? Are we being led and taught by the Holy Ghost?
 
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One thing that I find interesting is Adam and Eve realized they are naked after having eaten from the tree, then they were ashamed. Yet as depravity increases a people become shameless.

And there is also a problem with calling good evil, and evil good.

So is eating the knowledge of good and evil really an ongoing problem? Or is that just original sin that makes us rebellious?
 
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How does the following relate to the OP and to us?

Joh 14:26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Ac 1:8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Ac 2:38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Ac 2:39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Have we been called? Are we being led and taught by the Holy Ghost?
Bring all things to your remembrance,
Such as the word of God in Genesis,
We have a whole book of Bible, and not a single word is meaningless, especially about the Word of God.

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

In the NT,Jesus Christ said whatsoever I have said unto you that he will send Holy spirit to help us.

If you think about it,How amazing these words are.

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

We are all called by God, but we are not all led and taught by the Holy Spirit, because some of us eating the tree of good and evil as Eve thinks it is "good from God",but it is not as the God said "do not eat it."

Jesus Christ said Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood shall have eternal life.

Jesus Christ is the word of God became the flesh, the living word of God, not living tree of good and evil.
 
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One thing that I find interesting is Adam and Eve realized they are naked after having eaten from the tree, then they were ashamed. Yet as depravity increases a people become shameless.
You and I don't want to take our clothes off and run into a crowded place.LOL.
 
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So is eating the knowledge of good and evil really an ongoing problem? Or is that just original sin that makes us rebellious?
Eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was the original sin. The desire to determine good and evil apart from God is still very much alive. People continue to seek moral autonomy, choosing their own standards rather than submitting to God's truth revealed in Scripture. This is the ongoing problem from the legacy of the Fall because we all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. The first sin made people want to be their own boss instead of listening to God. Without God's help and the work of the Holy Spirit changing our hearts, we keep fighting against Him. I believe the spirit of the first sin persists, not because we are re-eating the fruit, but because the same pride and desire for independence from God remains in us.
 

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Eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was the original sin. The desire to determine good and evil apart from God is still very much alive. People continue to seek moral autonomy, choosing their own standards rather than submitting to God's truth revealed in Scripture. This is the ongoing problem from the legacy of the Fall because we all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. The first sin made people want to be their own boss instead of listening to God. Without God's help and the work of the Holy Spirit changing our hearts, we keep fighting against Him. I believe the spirit of the first sin persists, not because we are re-eating the fruit, but because the same pride and desire for independence from God remains in us.
I hadn't considered that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil might be that which gives us the ability to judge for ourselves what is good for us and what is bad for us. Rather I thought that the good and evil refered to concepts.
 
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I hadn't considered that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil might be that which gives us the ability to judge for ourselves what is good for us and what is bad for us. Rather I thought that the good and evil refered to concepts.
That’s an interesting thought, and it touches on something deeply important in the account of the fall. In Genesis, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was not just about learning abstract ideas or moral concepts. It was about humanity choosing to define good and evil for themselves instead of trusting and obeying God. By eating the fruit, Adam and Eve did not just gain information, they stepped into God’s place as moral judge, deciding for themselves what is right and wrong apart from His command. This was not simply about gaining awareness, it was about rebellion. The knowledge they took was not just intellectual, it was relational and spiritual, they broke trust with the One who had already declared what was good. Ever since, humanity has continued trying to live that way, making judgments without God’s Word as the standard. The Bible shows us that real wisdom and understanding come from fearing the Lord and submitting to His ways, not relying on our own.
 
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You and I don't want to take our clothes off and run into a crowded place.LOL.
But Adam and Eve didn't have a problem with being naked until they ate the fruit. What did shame about their nakedness have to do with the knowledge of good and evil?

Could it be that they came to understand sin and righteousness and sought to find a covering for themselves?
 

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But Adam and Eve didn't have a problem with being naked until they ate the fruit. What did shame about their nakedness have to do with the knowledge of good and evil?

Could it be that they came to understand sin and righteousness and sought to find a covering for themselves?
Shame comes from the tree of good and evil, but the knowledge of the tree of good and evil does not come from God. It came from Adam and Eve's own judgment. They thought nudity was a shameful thing, and God didn't make them think so.

The knowledge of the tree of good and evil does not represent true good and evil, but false idea. Remember that God said do not eat it.
 
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What I want to say is, how did the description of sin in the Bible come into this world?
but trying to discern good and evil falls into Satan's trick. It is sin, and this is the beginning of sin.

Do we think what God said is nonsense? We shall not eat the fruit of the tree of good and evil. Do we think we can abolish the law? The Word of God is the law.but trying to discern good and evil falls into Satan's trick. It is sin, and this is the beginning of sin.


If we don't study the Word of God, how do we know what is good? Only obey the word of God.

If we don't obey the word of God,
Won't we call good evil and call evil good.
 

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Sin came into the world by Eve and Adam trying to fix not listening to God and His instructions.

Oh dear. What have I done that I need to fix?
 
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gods word is in a little Red book that I have as well ?
Chairman Mao Tse-Tung.
He is a god ! and all that one needs is in that books words ?

I remember when his mass murderer died and then seen The Australian Right Wing PM M Fraser was crying for the great Chairman ! and went to pay his respects ! and so did all of the State Premiers bar for one Premier, who pointed out the fact that this man was a mass murderer in fact and he was not going at all ! what a great man this Premier was and able to stand up aganist the grain of Morons who would of even did the same of Hitler and Stalin in fact ! why not ?

The things that a Government Leader will do, sell their Soul to the Devil ? still serving Mass mudreres nowadays as well ! painting a one sided picture ! like that of Zelensky The Butcher of the people of Ukraine ! not to mention Nazi ! Hell the MSM does not want you all to know anything about Nazis ! you are all supporting Nazis did you know that ! yes you are in fact ! but do not mention them, they just do not exist then do they !

But here we are clearly supporting Nazis now in fact ! are we are being played for Fools !
Who are our Leaders truly ?
Who are our Media truly ?
Why should I have to even ask such a question ?
 

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Sin came into the world by Eve and Adam trying to fix not listening to God and His instructions.

Oh dear. What have I done that I need to fix?
Obey the word of God then we will be fix.

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3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
 
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To obey God's will for us with our observance of it is quite important. But what is it? I would say what is revealed earliest is, and things revealed later differing with it is accommodation or compromise for us with our sinful nature and stubborn ways, that God will not continue to hold against us. But for spiritual growth we should move beyond that actually looking for God's will that we would do what is according to that.
 
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Genesis
2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
( Remember that this is God's word and it has never changed, even though we have inherited disobedience from Adam and Eve, all we need to know is obedience to the word of God. )

Genesis
3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
(every word here is a lie, if we don't know the word of God, we never know the good and evil, In other words, we only need to know God's word, not the so-called good and evil.)

What if we don't know the word of God?
We will be like the world today, call good evil,call evil good.(blind and Deaf)

That's why the world is so badly sometimes,becaus all human living under a lie that We have been eating from the tree of good and evil from the beginning until now. God said not to eat it.

The Gospel is the good news of God's salvation.born again in the word of God though Jesus Christ.

Praise the Lord and praise God.
Dear soberxp,
You asked:
What if we don't know the word of God?
We will be like the world today, calling good evil and evil good (blind and Deaf)?


The short answer to your second question is YES. Without the knowledge of the truth, a believer will call evil good and good evil.

I will explain below why a knowledge of the truth is so vitally important for a believer.

When Christ comes to an unbeliever, He will give them the Early Rain of the Spirit. He will give them this gift without their asking for it and without their permission. With the Early Rain of the Spirit, the person will be "called to be a saint".

The Early Rain is a small measure of the Spirit and is not the baptism that the Apostles received on the Day of Pentecost. But even with just a small measure of the Spirit, a new believer will have a measure of faith and certain spiritual gifts. Then, when they are presented the Gospel, they will make a confession of faith and will call Jesus "Lord".

1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.

But since the Early Rain of the Spirit will leave a new believer (a babe in Christ) spiritually blind, carnally minded and unconverted, they will not be able to understand the spiritual teachings of Christ. They will remain carnal in their understanding of Christ.

Paul refers to this type of understanding as "Christ and Him crucified" and John refers to it has seeing Christ "in the flesh". In other words, a babe can understand the physical work & teachings of Christ (milk) that He performed under the Old Covenant. However, the spiritual work & teachings of Christ of the New Covenant will remain mostly veiled from their understanding.

Because babes have almost no ability to understand the spiritual teachings of Christ, Satan will come to them and will spiritually kill them (make them unfaithful/loss of salvation).

This scripture applies:

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts (a converted believer). 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another language (spiritual language) will he speak to this people. 12 But the word of the LORD was unto them (babes in Christ who draw milk) precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken (by Satan).

Christ also said it this way:

Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished (void of the truth of Christ's spiritual teachings). 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself SEVEN other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

The spiritual symbol of an unclean spirit represents a spirit which teaches Satan's false truth through lies and deceptions. Since a new believer remains spiritually blind (Mark 8:21-25) after receiving the Early Rain of the Spirit, they cannot replace their worldly false beliefs with the truth of Christ. ONE unclean spirit leaves but comes back with SEVEN more. The number "seven" represents perfection. In this case, the number seven represents the perfection of Satan's lies/deceptions which come to a believer by the indwelling of the spirit of anti-Christ. Now, instead of ONE unclean spirit within the believer, they now have EIGHT. The number eight is a spiritual symbol which represents a new spiritual condition. In this case, the new spiritual condition is worse than the first.

This "worse than the first" spiritual condition causes the believer to become a False Prophet, a Man of Sin, a Minister of Satan and a Seven Headed Beast with Ten Horns & Crowns.

After Satan has made the babe "worse than the first", they will confuse evil for good and accept the "perverse things" that Satan teaches:

Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

Since the death of Paul, all the babes in the churches that the Apostles started were quickly devoured by Satan. Even after 1900 years, Satan is still devouring all the new believers shortly after Christ calls them to be a saint. Because Satan has this ability to deceive all the new babes in Christ, he has been able to build a large and powerful apostate church in this world - one which masquerades as the true church of Christ. Satan's church is made up of all the nearly 2,000 different denominations/sects/groups in this world who call themselves "Christian". In Satan's church there is a confusion of languages but they do have one belief in common and that is to mix works with faith which is the sin that leads to death.

But since Christ has chosen a "few" of the "many" to actually become saints, He will come to those chosen few a second time. When He comes, He will pour out the Latter Rain of the Spirit (the baptism) upon them. With the indwelling Spirit of Truth, the chosen babe's spiritual blindness will be healed so that they can finally start understanding the truth of Christ's New Covenant teachings. After they have consumed a sufficient amount of truth, they will "see" the Abomination of Desolation that previously occurred within themselves when the spirit of anti-Christ indwelt them. When this happens, the babe will come out from Satan's deceptions. This event is commonly symbolized by the sun (Satan) and moon (Old Covenant/bondwoman) being darkened. Now with eyes that can see spiritually, Christ will appear (the Sun of Righteousness) and will gather the newly born child of God to heaven (spiritually speaking). The judgment of the Day of the Lord will then fall on the babe to remove and destroy the spirit of anti-Christ and the Great Harlot. After this judgment is complete, the babe will be converted and become as a little child who is weaned from the breasts. They are now ready to begin growing to maturity as a son of God.

Mat 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Having the ability to understand and believe the full truth of Christ is one of the keys to a person's salvation. Without truth, a babe is going to remain lost and under Satan's deceptions. After they physically die and are resurrected, they will then appear before Christ when He sits upon His throne. It is at that time that Christ will tell them that He never knew them. They will then be cast into the Lake of Fire for judgment. But all is not lost for them because Christ's divine character causes Him to love & bless His enemies. During their judgment, Christ will not omit justice, mercy and faith. As a result, Christ save them all.

Joe
 

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Obey the word of God then we will be fix.

Titus
3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
Hi soberxp,
Do you live in China?