You don’t know; we Jews know

[Matthias]

“You don’t know what you’re worshipping. We Jews know what we’re worshipping, because salvation comes from the Jews.”

(John 4:22, ISV)

 

[Triumph1300]

“You don’t know what you’re worshipping. We Jews know what we’re worshipping, because salvation comes from the Jews.”

(John 4:22, ISV)

That means that Jesus Christ would come from a line of Jewish people. That's all.

 

[Matthias]

That means that Jesus Christ would come from a line of Jewish people. That's all.

The context of Jesus’ words indicates something else, something in addition, to me.

 

[Rockerduck]

The context of Jesus’ words indicates something else, something in addition, to me.

My part Jewish me agrees with you.

 

[Windmill Charge]

Context is always key and the passage is:-
19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Jesus is pointing to the coming time following his resurrection and ascension when we will worship him directly with out the need for ritual, ceremony or animal sacrifice.

 

[Matthias]

Context is always key and the passage is:-
19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Jesus is pointing to the coming time following his resurrection and ascension when we will worship him directly with out the need for ritual, ceremony or animal sacrifice.

I agree, but there is more. Jesus is including himself in ”we Jews know what we are worshipping.”

What are Jesus and his fellow Jews - “true worshipers” - worshipping?

 

[Rockerduck]

Context is always key and the passage is:-
19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Jesus is pointing to the coming time following his resurrection and ascension when we will worship him directly with out the need for ritual, ceremony or animal sacrifice.

Do you understand what John 4:22 says. It is salvation is of the Jews, not from the Jews. Without Jews you would not have bible. All knowledge comes from the bible, which was compiled by Jews. It is of the Jews Christ came to us. Nothing came from the Jews, Jesus got rid of the Mosaic law. Salvation is of the Jews.

 

[Matthias]

I agree, but there is more. Jesus is including himself in ”we Jews know what we are worshipping.”

What are Jesus and his fellow Jews - “true worshipers” - worshipping?

The one true God.

 

[Behold]

What are Jesus and his fellow Jews - “true worshipers” - worshipping?

A.) God.

However, where this falls apart is regarding how to be accepted by God, as this is only through CHRIST, and most Jews, don't believe it, especially the most religious.

 

[Dash RipRock]

The one true God.

Excluding the pharisees and the sadducees of course since Jesus said they were children of the devil who did not know the Lord.

 

[Behold]

Excluding the pharisees and the sadducees of course since Jesus said they were children of the devil who did not know the Lord.

All sinners are a spiritual child of the devil, under God's wrath. John 3:36

To stop being a spiritual child of the devil, you must be BORN AGAIN by a DIFFERENT Spiritual Father. = GOD

 

[Windmill Charge]

I agree, but there is more. Jesus is including himself in ”we Jews know what we are worshipping.”

What are Jesus and his fellow Jews - “true worshipers” - worshipping?

Jesus worshipped his Father, just as we worship God the Father and God the Son.

 

[Matthias]

Jesus worshipped his Father. …

That’s right. Why did Jesus worship his Father?

…, just as we worship God the Father and God the Son.

 

[Dash RipRock]

Why did Jesus worship his Father?

More games - if you have a statement to make about that, just say it.

 

[Matthias]

More games -

That’s the devil’s sneer. Every righteous person has heard it or will.

if you have a statement to make about that, just say it.

I have said it. Now I’m waiting for him, if he has anything he wants to say about it.