Christ Died for All

[One 2 question]

Paul’s phrase “what is written” in 1 Corinthians 4:6 refers to the Old Testament Scriptures, which were the only authoritative written Word of God at the time he wrote the letter. The Greek phrase he uses, “gegrammenon,” is the same used throughout his epistles whenever he quotes from the Law, the Prophets, or the Writings. Paul is urging the Corinthian believers not to elevate human teachers like himself or Apollos above the authority of Scripture. His rebuke is clear: stay grounded in what God has already revealed through the written Word, and do not be puffed up by allegiance to personalities or doctrines that go beyond what has been divinely recorded.

Yet Paul did this himself. He went beyond what was written in the Scriptures. He encouraged the Jews to let the Gentiles go beyond the scriptures (the law) be circumcised.
This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”

Or more generally, saying, O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

 

[Keiw]

Yes, i think

Yes, I think I see what you're saying. Yet as someone said recently, is the scriptures exhaustive in relation to God's words to us?

Some have said that the bibles contain everything God wants us to know in this life.

But when challenged on this conclusion or statement they cannot confirm this with the bibles, let alone the scriptures.

Is this that important anyway? What bearing or impact does this have on our day to day relationship with God?

I would say, a large bearing. Because these are often 2 different approaches (studying a thing, bible/communicating with a Person, Holy Ghost) and accessing 2 different sources (bible/Spirit).

Every translation on Earth that has Gods personal name removed in nearly 7000 spots= altered by satans will to mislead. God( Jesus' Father) put his name in those spots because God wants his name in those spots. Yet when The NWT translators put Gods name back, all using the altered translations condemned that translation. Since its 100% fact that Jesus lives to do his Fathers will, guess which translation he would endorse and use if here? Clearly the real answer shows who is who. And who supports Jesus' Fathers will( Matt 7:21) over satans will on that matter.
This world is blind-mislead( Luke 17:26)

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Yet Paul did this himself. He went beyond what was written in the Scriptures. He encouraged the Jews to let the Gentiles go beyond the scriptures (the law) be circumcised.
This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”

Or more generally, saying, O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

1. Paul didn’t “go beyond Scripture” — he fulfilled it.
The entire Law pointed to Christ, and once Christ came, the old sign of the covenant (circumcision) was no longer required. Anyone still clinging to circumcision as binding isn’t defending Scripture — they’re denying the Gospel.

2. When Paul says, “Do not go beyond what is written” (1 Cor 4:6), he’s calling people back to Scripture — not back to the Old Covenant rituals that have been fulfilled in Christ. He’s rebuking teacher worship and doctrinal arrogance, not saying “follow the old Law again.”

3. If Paul broke the covenant by teaching freedom from circumcision, then Jesus did too.
But here’s the truth: “This is My blood of the New Covenant…” — Matthew 26:28
The covenant changed. Circumcision was a shadow. Christ is the substance.

4. Your whole argument assumes the Old Covenant is still in effect — but Paul explicitly says the opposite:
“By calling this covenant ‘new,’ He has made the first one obsolete…” — Hebrews 8:13
So quoting Genesis to argue for circumcision today? That’s you going beyond what is written — not Paul.

5. Paul was faithful to Scripture — not bound to shadows.
He wasn’t “letting Gentiles break the Law” — he was preaching what the Law itself pointed to:
“The righteous shall live by faith.” — Habakkuk 2:4
“Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” — Genesis 15:6
Before there was circumcision, there was faith.

6. Saying Paul went beyond Scripture by rejecting circumcision is like saying Jesus went beyond Moses by offering grace.
Christ is the fulfillment of the Law. The Law bowed to Him — not the other way around.

 

[Scott Downey]

The Apostle Paul, in speaking about this Judgment Day, of the world, says, “God hath appointed a day [future], in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained” (Acts 17:31). Jesus will have the Church, His Body, His Bride, as His associates in the work of this great thousand-year Judgment Day (2 Pet. 3:7-12; Matt. 19:28; 25:31; Luke 22:29, 30; 1 Cor. 6:3; 2 Tim. 4:1; Psa. 72:1-4; Isa. 32:1; Jer. 23:5, 6; 33:14-16; Obad. 21). In it they as Kings and Priests with Him will reign over the earth (Rev. 5:9, 10; 20:4, 6), for the purpose of giving all mankind a full release from the Adamic penalty and a full opportunity to return to God. “Whosoever will” (Rev. 22:17) may then have that full opportunity and may, by improving it, be found worthy of everlasting life; such may at the end of the thousand years (Rev. 20:7-9), in mankind’s final test, demonstrate that they are both able and willing—able because perfect, willing because of right heart-intentions—to keep the Divine Law. All such will be granted life eternal by the Father. All others will be eternally destroyed (Acts 3:23).

Adam was on trial for this life eternal, but he failed at the out start of his trial. The world of mankind at the opening of the Millennium will start in a different way. They will start imperfect; but, with an experience in the nature and effect of sin, and under the covering of Christ’s ransom merit—not granted as an individual imputation, but through the operation of the Mediatorial Reign—they will be permitted to rise up, out of sin and death, on the Highway of Holiness (Isa. 35:8, 9); and while having this privilege, they will be permitted to demonstrate their real character, whether determined for good or for evil. If they faithfully determine for good, they will gain eternal life; if for evil, they will lose eternal life, and will die again and be dead forever—incur the Second Death. Thus the Bible teaches a universal redemption or salvation from the Adamic death penalty; but it does not teach a universal salvation unto eternal life.

What 1000 year Day of judgment is taught in scripture?
No such thing exists.
The 1000 year teaching is in reference to what the SCOFFERS are saying

“4 Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.”
The Day of judgement is a fiery destruction, and afterwards we get new earth and new heavens.

Peter teaches that to God it matters not if a 1000 years passes before the return of Christ, the scoffers are in serious error.

Anyone who reads this will see that there is no 1000 years long judgement day.

2 Peter 3

Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), 2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of [a]us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and [b]perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [c]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

The Day of the Lord​

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be [d]burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Yes, i think

Yes, I think I see what you're saying. Yet as someone said recently, is the scriptures exhaustive in relation to God's words to us?

Some have said that the bibles contain everything God wants us to know in this life.

But when challenged on this conclusion or statement they cannot confirm this with the bibles, let alone the scriptures.

Is this that important anyway? What bearing or impact does this have on our day to day relationship with God?

I would say, a large bearing. Because these are often 2 different approaches (studying a thing, bible/communicating with a Person, Holy Ghost) and accessing 2 different sources (bible/Spirit).

Let’s not confuse the issue.

Paul isn’t making some vague philosophical point about whether God can hypothetically speak outside of Scripture. He’s issuing a direct warning to the Corinthians:
Stop going beyond what is written.
Period.

“That ye might learn in us not to think above that which is written...” — 1 Corinthians 4:6

The context?
People exalting Paul, Apollos, and other leaders — forming camps and divisions based on personalities, instead of anchoring themselves in the Word already given.

Paul’s use of “gegrammenon” (Greek for “it is written”) ties directly to the Old Testament — the Law, the Prophets, the Writings — and every time he quotes it elsewhere, he treats it as final authority.

So yeah — it absolutely has bearing on our day-to-day relationship with God.

Because if you start prioritizing mystical impressions, "Spirit-led" vibes, or random voices in your head over the written Word, you're wide open to deception.

The Holy Spirit doesn't contradict the Word.
He illuminates it.

“The sword of the Spirit... is the Word of God.” — Ephesians 6:17
“Sanctify them through Thy truth — Thy Word is truth.” — John 17:17

God is not a split-personality communicator.
He doesn't say one thing in Scripture and another thing in your prayer closet that overrides it.

So when Paul says “stick to what is written,” he's protecting us from exactly what you're drifting toward — subjective spiritualism unanchored from the Word.

 

[Berean]

What 1000 year Day of judgment is taught in scripture?
No such thing exists.

"And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years." - Revelation 20:4-6

 

[One 2 question]

Let’s not confuse the issue.

Paul isn’t making some vague philosophical point about whether God can hypothetically speak outside of Scripture. He’s issuing a direct warning to the Corinthians:
Stop going beyond what is written.
Period.

“That ye might learn in us not to think above that which is written...” — 1 Corinthians 4:6

The context?
People exalting Paul, Apollos, and other leaders — forming camps and divisions based on personalities, instead of anchoring themselves in the Word already given.

Paul’s use of “gegrammenon” (Greek for “it is written”) ties directly to the Old Testament — the Law, the Prophets, the Writings — and every time he quotes it elsewhere, he treats it as final authority.

So yeah — it absolutely has bearing on our day-to-day relationship with God.

Because if you start prioritizing mystical impressions, "Spirit-led" vibes, or random voices in your head over the written Word, you're wide open to deception.

The Holy Spirit doesn't contradict the Word.
He illuminates it.

“The sword of the Spirit... is the Word of God.” — Ephesians 6:17
“Sanctify them through Thy truth — Thy Word is truth.” — John 17:17

God is not a split-personality communicator.
He doesn't say one thing in Scripture and another thing in your prayer closet that overrides it.

So when Paul says “stick to what is written,” he's protecting us from exactly what you're drifting toward — subjective spiritualism unanchored from the Word.

Let’s not confuse the issue.

What is the real issue here?

Paul isn’t making some vague philosophical point about whether God can hypothetically speak outside of Scripture. He’s issuing a direct warning to the Corinthians:
Stop going beyond what is written.
Period.

But what is written where and to whom?

“That ye might learn in us not to think above that which is written...” — 1 Corinthians 4:6

The context?
People exalting Paul, Apollos, and other leaders — forming camps and divisions based on personalities, instead of anchoring themselves in the Word already given.

But what do YOU mean by your use of the word, 'Word'?

Paul’s use of “gegrammenon” (Greek for “it is written”) ties directly to the Old Testament — the Law, the Prophets, the Writings — and every time he quotes it elsewhere, he treats it as final authority.

Does he?

So yeah — it absolutely has bearing on our day-to-day relationship with God.

Because if you start prioritizing mystical impressions, "Spirit-led" vibes, or random voices in your head over the written Word, you're wide open to deception.

God's expressed thoughts given to humans for humans go far beyond what was written down. The scriptures are extremely limited in it's scope and volume. It is not exhaustive.

The Holy Spirit doesn't contradict the Word.
He illuminates it.

Who said that He doesn't or can't?

“The sword of the Spirit... is the Word of God.” — Ephesians 6:17
“Sanctify them through Thy truth — Thy Word is truth.” — John 17:17

As Jesus said, humans will live not on physical food but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Is EVERY word of God contained in the scriptures?

God is not a split-personality communicator.
He doesn't say one thing in Scripture and another thing in your prayer closet that overrides it.

God definatly has as I've pointed out before. And no one has responded to this truth. God contradicts what is written.

So when Paul says “stick to what is written,” he's protecting us from exactly what you're drifting toward — subjective spiritualism unanchored from the Word.

Personally I stick with the Word of God, the Source of God's word to us. He is my Good Shepherd. His Spirit communicating with my spirit. I am anchored, grafted into, abide and been made one with the Spirit of Truth. He takes from what is Christ's and delivers these gifts of truth to me and the other members of Christ's body.

I love God and God's words that He provides. I love Jesus the Word of God. I love God's Spirit of Truth Who has made His home in me.

Therefore a living dynamic relationship with These Persons is my priority.

 

[One 2 question]

Because if you start prioritizing mystical impressions, "Spirit-led" vibes, or random voices in your head over the written Word, you're wide open to deception.

By your comments like, mystical impressions, "Spirit-led" vibes, or random voices in your head, it makes me wonder if you hear directly from the Spirit of Christ within you.

I don't doubt you read, study and apply what you read of the documented words of God which are beneficial and profitable for His people.

But I question your relationship with the Person in you. Assuming He has made you His home.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

By your comments like, mystical impressions, "Spirit-led" vibes, or random voices in your head, it makes me wonder if you hear directly from the Spirit of Christ within you.

I don't doubt you read, study and apply what you read of the documented words of God which are beneficial and profitable for His people.

But I question your relationship with the Person in you. Assuming He has made you His home.

Let’s cut the nonsense.

Paul wasn’t vague — he literally said stop going beyond what is written (1 Cor 4:6). Not “if it feels right,” not “if the vibe is good,” not “if your inner whisper tells you something extra.” He was slamming people for chasing spiritual elitism and personality cults instead of staying grounded in the actual Word of God.

And now here you are — defending random voices in your head over Scripture, and then turning around and questioning if the Holy Spirit even lives in me?

Yeah… that’s a huge red flag.

You went from “God contradicts the Bible” to “maybe you don’t even know God” — all because I won’t submit to your private revelation circus. That’s not Spirit-led.
That’s arrogant mysticism in disguise.

The Spirit doesn’t war against the Word. He wrote it. So if your "revelation" contradicts it — it's not God. It's just you.

 

[One 2 question]

Let’s cut the nonsense.

Paul wasn’t vague — he literally said stop going beyond what is written (1 Cor 4:6).

So when Joshua heard God communicating with him, telling him to kill all the inhabitants of Jericho, men, women and children, he shouldn't have listened or heeded the voice of Him Who he could not see? The words of this mystical invisible Being interacting with him was not trustworthy?

Not “if it feels right,” not “if the vibe is good,” not “if your inner whisper tells you something extra.” He was slamming people for chasing spiritual elitism and personality cults instead of staying grounded in the actual Word of God.

And now here you are — defending random voices in your head over Scripture

But Joshua did listen and obeyed this voice even though it contradicted His written word, do not

You went from “God contradicts the Bible” to “maybe you don’t even know God” — all because I won’t submit to your private revelation circus. That’s not Spirit-led.
That’s arrogant mysticism in disguise.

The Spirit doesn’t war against the Word. He wrote it. So if your "revelation" contradicts it — it's not God. It's just you.

God wrote, do not kill, with His finger.
Ex 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

Yet God said, kill them all. Then later He said, Do to Ai as you did to Jericho.

 

[Scott Downey]

"And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years." - Revelation 20:4-6

While that is a judgment it is not the Day of Judgment of Christ; called the Day of the Lord.
Paul says we will judge angels.

And that 1000 years judgement reign started when the saints entered into Heaven to reign with Christ 2000 years ago.
It is not on the earth, and it is still ongoing, the reigning of the saints.
Christ is the first fruits, the first resurrection, and our life is hidden with Christ in Heaven, where He is, we are, right now, symbolically raised with Christ and seated with Him in Heavenly places, but when we die we actually are with Christ in the Heavenly city. 2 Corinthians 5. All saved believers have a part in the first resurrection which is Christ. The second death has no power over the children of God, Christ says the sheep never perish and He gives them eternal life and they will not come under judgment. So we then are not the 'rest of the dead who come to life later'. Our citizenship is in heaven and we have age enduring eternal life when we believed, we passed from death into life, as Jesus said in John 5

1000 years is symbolic of a long period of time, before the return of Christ to destroy this world which is shown in Rev 20:7-10 in fire and bring in the new earth and new heavens. Even Paul points out the scripture can be symbolic in Galatians 4 referring to Hagar and the Jerusalem which is in bondage of Mt. Sinai and still is today, versus the heavenly Jerusalem which is above.
And Peter and Paul tells us on the day Christ returns there is a sudden destruction. It is called the Day of the Lord.

7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where[b] the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
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I know people have this 1000-year earthly reign of Christ teaching mostly based on the OT prophecies they hold dear.
But there are many conflicts within the NT teachings that prove it false.

 

[One 2 question]

While that is a judgment it is not the Day of Judgment of Christ; called the Day of the Lord.
Paul says we will judge angels.

And that 1000 years judgement reign started when the saints entered into Heaven to reign with Christ 2000 years ago.
It is not on the earth, and it is still ongoing, the reigning of the saints.
Christ is the first fruits, the first resurrection, and our life is hidden with Christ in Heaven, where He is, we are, right now, symbolically raised with Christ and seated with Him in Heavenly places, but when we die we actually are with Christ in the Heavenly city. 2 Corinthians 5. All saved believers have a part in the first resurrection which is Christ. The second death has no power over the children of God.

1000 years is symbolic of a long period of time, before the return of Christ to destroy this world which is shown in Rev 20:7-10 in fire and bring in the new earth and new heavens. Even Paul points out the scripture can be symbolic in Galatians 4 referring to Hagar and the Jerusalem which is in bondage of Mt. Sinai and still is today, versus the heavenly Jerusalem which is above.
And Peter and Paul tells us on the day Christ returns there is a sudden destruction. It is called the Day of the Lord.

7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where[b] the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
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I know people have this 1000-year earthly reign of Christ teaching mostly based on the OT prophecies they hold dear.
But there are many conflicts within the NT teachings that prove it false.

Why can't you accept that when John was told 1000 years he was not lied to, it meant a thousand years. Why is it necessary to change it? 24 elders, 12 gates, 144,000.

But if the Spirit of Truth has told you directly that it isn't simply 1,000 years please feel free to give us more details.

I'm not saying symbolism isn't a way God reveals things to us. Like Jesus teaching in parables.

The same Spirit spoke the truth before anything was ever documented of course and is still communicating it to God's people beyond the very little that has been and is still being written down to this very second.

Personally I can't wait to reign with King Jesus on this planet for 1000. Then to continue in our Father's kingdom forever, without end. Awesome hope to have hey.

 

[Scott Downey]

Why can't you accept that when John was told 1000 years he was not lied to, it meant a thousand years. Why is it necessary to change it? 24 elders, 12 gates, 144,000.

But if the Spirit of Truth has told you directly that it isn't simply 1,000 years please feel free to give us more details.

I'm not saying symbolism isn't a way God reveals things to us. Like Jesus teaching in parables.

The same Spirit spoke the truth before anything was ever documented of course and is still communicating it to God's people beyond the very little that has been and is still being written down to this very second.

Personally I can't wait to reign with King Jesus on this planet for 1000. Then to continue in our Father's kingdom forever, without end. Awesome hope to have hey.

So you believe Jesus will be on the earth 1000 years, separated from the Father's right hand?
But He must sit there at the right hand of the FATHER till all the enemies are defeated.

Verses to contemplate, and I got another thought provoker.

Hebrews 1:13
But to which of the angels has He ever said: “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?

AMP
Jesus said, “I am; and you will [all] see the Son of Man seated [with authority] at the right hand of Power (the Father), and coming with the clouds of heaven.”

Mark 12:35-37
35 Then Jesus answered and said, while He taught in the temple, “How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the Son of David? 36 For David himself said by the Holy Spirit:

‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
37 Therefore David himself calls Him ‘Lord’; how is He then his Son?”

And the common people heard Him gladly.

1 Cor 15
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

 

[Scott Downey]

This is another one

If Christ were on earth he would not be a priest.
And God swore an oath saying HE was a priest forever.
So how then could Christ separate Himself from God the Father and depart to rule on earth for 1000 years, with the Father still reigning in heaven, see this is not scripturally supported.
To be the mediator of the New Covenant, He must reign and sit at the Father's side.

Hebrews 8
Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a Minister of the [a]sanctuary and of the true tabernacle which the Lord erected, and not man.

3 For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. Therefore it is necessary that this One also have something to offer.

4 For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law; 5 who serve the copy and shadow of the heavenly things, as Moses was divinely instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle. For He said, “See that you make all things according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” 6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.

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Hebrews 7

Need for a New Priesthood​

11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has [b]officiated at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning [c]priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. 17 For [d]He testifies:

“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing [e]perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Greatness of the New Priest​

20 And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath 21 (for they have become priests without an oath, but He with an oath by Him who said to Him:

“The Lord has sworn
And will not relent,
‘You are a priest [f]forever
According to the order of Melchizedek’ ”),
22 by so much more Jesus has become a [g]surety of a better covenant.

23 Also there were many priests, because they were prevented by death from continuing. 24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Therefore He is also able to save [h]to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

26 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, [i]harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever.

 

[Scott Downey]

Now in regard to these; the Last enemy to be destroyed is death, and that happens at the end of this world
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Hebrews 1:13
But to which of the angels has He ever said: “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?

Mark 12:35-37
35 Then Jesus answered and said, while He taught in the temple, “How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the Son of David? 36 For David himself said by the Holy Spirit:

‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
37 Therefore David himself calls Him ‘Lord’; how is He then his Son?”

And the common people heard Him gladly.

Luke 22
68 And if I [a]also ask you, you will by no means answer [b]Me or let Me go. 69 Hereafter the Son of Man will sit on the right hand of the power of God.”

70 Then they all said, “Are You then the Son of God?”

So He said to them, “You rightly say that I am.”

Mark 14:62
Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”
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When Jesus returns, there is no 1000 years of separation or He could not be our great High priest,
What happens is the New Jerusalem, the Holy city descends down from God out of heaven onto the New earth, and the tabernacle of God is with men. Father, Spirit and Son dwell together with man on the new earth God creates at the return of Christ on the Day of the Lord.

Rev 21

1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.

2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.

4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

6 And He said to me, “It[c] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. 7 He who overcomes [d]shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. 8 But the cowardly, [e]unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

The second death has no power over the saved people of God, they will reign with Christ forever and inherit all things.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

So when Joshua heard God communicating with him, telling him to kill all the inhabitants of Jericho, men, women and children, he shouldn't have listened or heeded the voice of Him Who he could not see? The words of this mystical invisible Being interacting with him was not trustworthy?


But Joshua did listen and obeyed this voice even though it contradicted His written word, do not

God wrote, do not kill, with His finger.
Ex 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

Yet God said, kill them all. Then later He said, Do to Ai as you did to Jericho.

You’re trying to justify modern private revelation by pointing to a God-ordained wartime judgment from a theocratic era 3,400 years ago — as if that gives you permission to trust whatever “inner voice” you hear now.

Let’s be clear:

Joshua wasn’t operating on gut feelings.

He wasn’t following emotional impressions or vague whispers.

He was receiving direct audible instruction from the visible Commander of the Lord’s army (see Joshua 5:13–15) — not a “mystical inner voice” contradicting Scripture.

God wasn’t confused.
He wasn’t contradicting Himself.
He was executing judgment, not violating a universal ethic.
And it was in a specific covenant, at a specific time, for a specific purpose.

The command “Do not kill” in Exodus 20 is not a blanket ban on all killing.
It’s “Do not murder” — the Hebrew word ratsach refers to unauthorized killing, not God's holy war directives.

“The Lord is a man of war.” — Exodus 15:3

God commanding the destruction of Jericho was divine judgment, not Joshua winging it based on vibes.
So comparing that to your modern subjective revelations is like comparing Yahweh’s voice from a flaming mountaintop to a crystal healing session.

Paul said it clearly:
“Do not go beyond what is written…” — 1 Corinthians 4:6

That’s a command.
Not a suggestion.
Not a vibe check.

So when someone today claims “God told me something” that contradicts Scripture, they’re not hearing God — they’re hearing themselves, or worse.

“The Spirit does not contradict the Word. He wrote it.”

 

[Dash RipRock]

So when someone today claims “God told me something” that contradicts Scripture, they’re not hearing God — they’re hearing themselves, or worse.

“The Spirit does not contradict the Word. He wrote it.”

This is how we know the racists that attack the Jews are not of God, who loves the Jews and wants them to get born again.

Romans 11:28 - As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the Fathers' sakes.

 

[Scott Downey]

1 Corinthians 15, the order of each of those made alive in Christ and the end

a. Christ the first fruits, (all who are the Lord's people who die, fallen asleep in the Lord, and reign with Him in heaven)
b. afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. (we who are still alive caught up to be with Christ at His return)

c. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.

The Last Enemy Destroyed​

20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

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Revelation 20, right here Death and Hades are destroyed.
Christ must reign at the Father's right hand until all the enemies are destroyed, the last one to be destroyed is death
The next major event is the new earth and heaven. And the tabernacle of God is with men and He will dwell among them

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The Great White Throne Judgment​

11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before [c]God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second [d]death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

This is how we know the racists that attack the Jews are not of God, who loves the Jews and wants them to get born again.

Romans 11:28 - As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the Fathers' sakes.

You said: “Anyone who criticizes Jews is being taught by the devil.”

Let’s correct that with Scripture — not sentiment.

“They are enemies concerning the gospel, but as touching election, beloved for the fathers’ sake.” — Romans 11:28

That verse doesn’t say Israel gets a theological pass.

It says they’re currently enemies of the Gospel — yet God still has mercy available to them, just like He does for all who come to Christ.

Let’s be crystal clear:
Criticizing Jewish unbelief doesn't equal racism.

Jesus Himself told unbelieving Jews:
You are of your father, the devil.” — John 8:44

Was Jesus being “racist”?
No — He was calling out spiritual rebellion.

Paul said:
“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” — Romans 9:6
“They were broken off because of unbelief.” — Romans 11:20

Was Paul racist?
No — he was Jewish, and he still preached one Gospel for Jew and Gentile alike:

“There is no distinction… for the same Lord is Lord of all.” — Romans 10:12

What’s actually demonic?
Teaching that Jews have a separate salvation plan
Claiming modern secular Israel is God’s prophetic centerpiece, while rejecting Jesus Christ
Accusing people of racism to defend a false covenant

That’s not the Spirit of God.
That’s Scofield’s spirit of confusion.

And if you're really concerned about Israel...

Preach Christ to them.
Don’t enable unbelief with flattery.

Because without Jesus,
Jews and Gentiles alike are outside the covenant.

“No one comes to the Father except through Me.” — John 14:6

So no — it wasn’t the devil who told me the Jews need Jesus.

That was Jesus.
And if you’d stop dodging Scripture and throwing around slurs, you’d hear Him too.

 

[Scott Downey]

You said: “Anyone who criticizes Jews is being taught by the devil.”

Let’s correct that with Scripture — not sentiment.

“They are enemies concerning the gospel, but as touching election, beloved for the fathers’ sake.” — Romans 11:28

That verse doesn’t say Israel gets a theological pass.

It says they’re currently enemies of the Gospel — yet God still has mercy available to them, just like He does for all who come to Christ.

Let’s be crystal clear:
Criticizing Jewish unbelief doesn't equal racism.

Jesus Himself told unbelieving Jews:
You are of your father, the devil.” — John 8:44

Was Jesus being “racist”?
No — He was calling out spiritual rebellion.

Paul said:
“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” — Romans 9:6
“They were broken off because of unbelief.” — Romans 11:20

Was Paul racist?
No — he was Jewish, and he still preached one Gospel for Jew and Gentile alike:

“There is no distinction… for the same Lord is Lord of all.” — Romans 10:12

What’s actually demonic?
Teaching that Jews have a separate salvation plan
Claiming modern secular Israel is God’s prophetic centerpiece, while rejecting Jesus Christ
Accusing people of racism to defend a false covenant

That’s not the Spirit of God.
That’s Scofield’s spirit of confusion.

And if you're really concerned about Israel...

Preach Christ to them.
Don’t enable unbelief with flattery.

Because without Jesus,
Jews and Gentiles alike are outside the covenant.

“No one comes to the Father except through Me.” — John 14:6

So no — it wasn’t the devil who told me the Jews need Jesus.

That was Jesus.
And if you’d stop dodging Scripture and throwing around slurs, you’d hear Him too.

Yes, there is only one people of God.
Ephesians 2 describes this

Brought Near by His Blood​

11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands— 12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

Christ Our Peace​

14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, 16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. 17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

Christ Our Cornerstone​

19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.