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But we must not be naive so as to think politicians on both sides of the aisle aren't bought and paid for by their campaign contributors.
I'm sure a great many are. But we're talking about a billionaire who doesn't even care about his salary. He's paying for a White House ballroom to be built. He's paying for massive flagpoles to be set up.

You claim without any evidence that he's bought and sold. Just like you claim without any evidence that the lot of us are Trump worshipers.

I wish you stuck to what you actually know instead of your widespread slander of a great many people whom you've never even met.

I have to admit . . . I've been very suprised at this side of you that I'm seeing.

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I'm sure a great many are. But we're talking about a billionaire who doesn't even care about his salary. He's paying for a White House ballroom to be built. He's paying for massive flagpoles to be set up.

You claim without any evidence that he's bought and sold. Just like you claim without any evidence that the lot of us are Trump worshipers.

I wish you stuck to what you actually know instead of your widespread slander of a great many people whom you've never even met.

I have to admit . . . I've been very suprised at this side of you that I'm seeing.

Much love!
Of course they are, generally, however subtle they may be about it. It doesn't necessarily mean they are all engaged in criminality necessarily, however they are answerable to their supporters, we must not be naive.

My message and warning to believers is not political but spiritual, brother. We need to guard our hearts in these days....the restrainer is being taken away and deception is getting stronger and more dangerous leading up to the end, if that's the right way to put it. I don't know who is and who isn't crossing the line into idolatry, other than a general sense that many are unfortunately. When believers get angry and divide over mere earthly political opinions that isn't a good sign either.

It looks as though Trump is about to accept a $400 million plane from the Saudis, by the way. Not for himself personally... of course they wouldn't be that obvious about it. Golly what a mess this world is. Jesus was so right when He said the love of money is the root of all evil....we always only need to follow the money trail to figure out what is going on. Even the land was prophesied to be divided for GAIN.
 

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I don't know who is and who isn't crossing the line into idolatry, other than a general sense that many are unfortunately.
A general sense? You need to let this go. In my opinion. Time to focus on something else maybe.

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A general sense? You need to let this go. In my opinion. Time to focus on something else maybe.

Much love!
I should be bolder and say that the realm of politics is replacing the gospel in Christendom. No, I'm not going to let it go......the Lord has spoken to me a few times in various ways about Trump, so I'm watching the situation. And I will warn as long as I see a need to.

And as he has been and will be instrumental in the re-building of the Temple in Jerusalem, I will warn about that too. The Lord showed me a very strong deception associated with it.....believers need to have nothing to do with that Temple and its ecumenical interfaith agenda.

God is watching over His word to perform it, as pertains to the things prophesied for the end. He is in control ruling, and reigning and to Him be all glory and fear.
 

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I should be bolder and say that the realm of politics is replacing the gospel in Christendom. No, I'm not going to let it go......the Lord has spoken to me a few times in various ways about Trump, so I'm watching the situation. And I will warn as long as I see a need to.

And as he has been and will be instrumental in the re-building of the Temple in Jerusalem, I will warn about that too. The Lord showed me a very strong deception associated with it.....believers need to have nothing to do with that Temple and its ecumenical interfaith agenda.

God is watching over His word to perform it, as pertains to the things prophesied for the end. He is in control ruling, and reigning and to Him be all glory and fear.
If you think politics is replacing Christianity, then don't do that.

And don't assume it's what we are doing. You'll be wrong. Maybe the culture, which may do anything, who knows? We know it's going to end up with the beast.

But to keep dropping your judgments and pronouncments on people you don't, know, and, I'm seeing various things you are flatly wrong about. You don't live here, you don't see what we see, but you have a very broad brush.

Fine, paint us all whatever color you like, tell me the Lord told you so, and we'll all see how it comes out in the end. But these are not the things that for me show credibility. Do as you will.

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So if that's really the case it's more reason to pray for them.
Yes, pray for them AS we go about warning others that the catholics are teaching a devil inspired fake gospel

We have been warning them since 1517.
Yeah you reformed people got your own false gospel that is leading people to hell.

The reformed cult is just as bad as the catholic cult.
 
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In case you don't know, there are born again Christians who are part of the Catholic church. I have known a few of them, both online and personally. We should not condemn anybody. Jesus didn't.
 
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In case you don't know, there are born again Christians who are part of the Catholic church

No, born again Christians don't engage in idolatry which is what praying the rosary is. The Lord never taught or led anybody to pray to mary or to try to contact the dead. People doing this are being led by demons.

You have just run across some people who claimed they were Christians and they deceived you into thinking they were Christians.

They deceived you because you have no problem with idolatry which happens a lot with people that don't know God's Word very well.
 

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No, born again Christians don't engage in idolatry which is what praying the rosary is. The Lord never taught or led anybody to pray to mary or to try to contact the dead. People doing this are being led by demons.

You have just run across some people who claimed they were Christians and they deceived you into thinking they were Christians.

They deceived you because you have no problem with idolatry which happens a lot with people that don't know God's Word very well.
Jesus did not condemn anybody but you seem to be doing it.
 

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Jesus did not condemn anybody but you seem to be doing it.

You know the universalists are teaching the false doctrines of satan.

Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

You should get better acquainted with Jesus and the things He said
 

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See how it says "Cardinals, bishops, priests, men and women religious, and hundreds of the faithful have turned out each night to entrust Pope Francis’ recovery to the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary." Do you ask others to pray for or with you to God? Yes, and thus you are asking for their intercession, but that's fine as long as one doesn't ask for Jesus's Mother's intercession, right?

If you take Mary out of the "cult of Mary"........then the Catholic Church ends.

So, its also a fact that praying to dead saints, is not found in a bible.
The Apostles who wrote the NT, never prayed to Mary, and never prayed to a dead saint.
The reason you do it, is because you belong to a religious man made system that teaches what you believe.
 

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"It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins." (2 Macc. 12:46)

That verse is not found in a current REAL Bible, and that is because it belongs to a set of books that are known to be Gnostic, or theologically subverted or actually Paganistic.

One of my favorites is the "Gospel of Mary"....but you dont want that one as your "go to" = Church Doctrine, and "ditto" the rest on your subversive list.

It's also found in Scripture that "God is of the living" not the dead.

Do you have any DEAD Catholic relatives?
Is God still their God?.......are are you lying by trying to twist a verse into Hyper-Catholic nonsense, @Origen
 

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How convenient for you! lol. Of course the REAL Scripture came some 1400 years AFTER the existence of Christians (Catholics). So, for 1400 years the first Christians had it wrong, eh? l

"Catholicism" ...became a denomination about 110 yras after Jesus was back in Heaven.
So, by then, all the Apostles were dead.
Now, you claim that your Church Fathers, are the 1st Christians, but what you mean is.......that they are the original creators of their theology, that eventually evolved into "Cult of Mary"., or "soul sleep" or "purgatory", , ect.


Physically dead? Yes. But their spiritual soul is immortal and thus they are still alive, and the soul will later be reunited to the body, as stated in Scripture.

The reason that an unbeliever's spirit goes to Hell, is because the spirit in a person is eternal.
So, if you are a Christian, or a Pagan, or a Blood Drinking Satanist........the spirit in all three that is living inside the dying body.......is going into eternity, and will continue.

So, the "dead" in eternity, are those who are not born again Spiritually.......However their spirit is not Dead, its eternal.
 

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(Catholic) Church isn't a denomination

Jesus isn't a Catholic.
Paul isnt a Catholic,

This term "catholic" simply means "all Christians" ........and in fact, that a lie, and a fallacy, because not all Christians are Catholic.

Catholics, are the "cult of Mary" and that is a denominaiton.......and if you take MARY out of the "cult of Mary"....then the Catholic Church, ends.


In Gen. 2:7, we read, "God formed the man of dust of the earth [...]". What are bones? A proof of the power of God Who made man with dust, but nothing else. Therefore, it's the physical body that returns to dust (Gen. 3:19, Ecc. 3:20).

God is Tri-Part

Father
Son
Holy Spirit.

Man is created in God's "image" or "Likeness".

So, Man is also 3

Body
Soul
Spirit

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: as the spirit [soul] shall return to God Who gave it" (Ecc. 12:7)

Your "body is dead becasue of sin", and they are going to put it in a box in the ground and it will return to dirt.
It could be that you will be creamated and then, you'll be turned to ash, and that is still the same dirt.

"They stoned Stephen as he called out, saying, 'Lord Jesus, receive my spirit [soul]!'” (Ac. 7:59)

Stephen understood that the "real person" is not the body its the spirit., and that is why its our spirit that is "born again" and not our body or our mind.

but a spiritual death of the soul which is separation from God (Rom. 5:12), and thus Satan did lie when he told them that they would not die.

Their body also died.,

all just souls past, present and future live with Him eternally in Heaven

And what is a "just" soul?

Its a born again Spirit.....its the end result of being "justified by Faith".


, and the unjust souls undergo a spiritual death,

This is a person, who is not "justified by Faith". and born again...SPIRITULLY.......so, they remain separated from God, eternally.
 

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"Catholicism" ...became a denomination about 110 yras after Jesus was back in Heaven.
So, by then, all the Apostles were dead.
Now, you claim that your Church Fathers, are the 1st Christians, but what you mean is.......that they are the original creators of their theology, that eventually evolved into "Cult of Mary"., or "soul sleep" or "purgatory", , ect.


There were the Early Church Fathers - and there were the Apostolic Fathers, who learned from the Apostles themselves.
John’s disciple, Ignatius of Antioch, was writing at the beginning of the 2nd century – while John was STILL alive – that the Catholic Church is the Church established by Christ:

Ignatius of Antioch

Follow your bishop, every one of you, as obediently as Jesus Christ followed the Father. Obey your clergy too as you would the apostles; give your deacons the same reverence that you would to a command of God. Make sure that no step affecting the Church is ever taken by anyone without the bishop’s sanction. The sole Eucharist you should consider valid is one that is celebrated by the bishop himself, or by some person authorized by him. Where the bishop is to be seen, there let all his people be; just as, wherever Jesus Christ is present, there is the Catholic Church.
(Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 110]).

Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions
on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. . . . They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes.
(Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6:2-7:1 [A.D. 110]).


Taught by Ignatius, disciple of John, disciple of Jesus Christ.
 
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More of your brain-dead nonsense . . .


You're a deceived Catholic TOOL........ @BreadOfLife , and you've lead your family into a very old cult.
You belong to a Religious man made system, that teaches that the city water supply has the power to wash sin from your heart, by getting your body wet.
So, you have to be STUPID, to not realize how stupid is the "baptismal regeneration" theology.
And while we are discussing "dumb"......... we have up next.... "wet the infants" and pretend they are going to heaven., which is followed by, .... = Send the Pope some more dead body parts, and He need more for the Vatican collection warehouse .. (RELICS).

How about "Mary flew to heaven, in her dead body"...
Uh huh, and you wont.., (but you can try).

Here is the reality check for you @BreadOfLife .

If Mary is removed from your Cult's worship and theology, then the Catholic Church, will END.
 

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You're a deceived Catholic TOOL........ @BreadOfLife , and you've lead your family into a very old cult.
You belong to a Religious man made system, that teaches that the city water supply has the power to wash sin from your heart, by getting your body wet.
So, you have to be STUPID, to not realize how stupid is the "baptismal regeneration" theology.
And while we are discussing "dumb"......... we have up next.... "wet the infants" and pretend they are going to heaven., which is followed by, .... = Send the Pope some more dead body parts, and He need more for the Vatican collection warehouse .. (RELICS).

How about "Mary flew to heaven, in her dead body"...
Uh huh, and you wont.., (but you can try).

Here is the reality check for you @BreadOfLife .

If Mary is removed from your Cult's worship and theology, then the Catholic Church, will END.
How about simply addressing my rock-solid evidence for the existence of the Catholic Church during the lifetime of the Apostle John? Why are you afraid to address this? YOU claim that it didn't exist until about the year 143 AD.
Can you show me documented evidence for this claim??

Changing the subject isn't going to get you off the hook, son . . .
 

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How about simply addressing my rock-solid evidence for the existence of the Catholic Church during the lifetime of the Apostle John? Why are you afraid to address this? YOU claim that it didn't exist until about the year 143 AD.
Can you show me documented evidence for this claim??

Changing the subject isn't going to get you off the hook, son . . .

Im not on a "hook" little one, as im not deceived by the "cult of mary".
You're on THEIR hook.
And as i told you.. If Mary is taken out of the Catholic Cult, then it ends.
Its ends.
Now i will walk this back, as i posted 110 yrs, vs 110 AD......so, that is a typo.

Also,

It was between 100-110 AD, that one of your church "fathers", used the term "catholic" in a letter., and he was not referring to a cult that elevates Mary, to "MOG" and so forth, as that happened Later.
So, the "cult of Mary" that you serve, that has the Pope bowing before Plastic Mary Mannequin's that can be 200 Feet High......is not the same "church" that Ignatius was describing. As He was simply describing BELIEVERS in Yeshua.. vs (Crazy) LATER Catholic Doctrine that tries to get to Jesus through Mary.

Now, this issue with "Relics" and "Dead Mary flying to heaven", and so much of "cult of mary" theology, is that its not found in any bible.
And the reason is.......that your "church" believes that the bible is an incomplete work in progress, and anything they decided later that they want to adopt as a new theory, or doctrine.....is EQUAL to the Bible, and that is the worst sin the "cult of Mary" keeps committing.

And the issue with Catholics like you, is that the Bible to you, will never be your final authority, and so, that is why you will believe anything and everything that your "church" decides is "our new doctrine".
So, this type of Blind Obedience to your particular church's teaching is the proof of "cult".

Be glad you are in '2025, as if you lived in the time of say........ Joan of Arc, or Calvin, they would have burned you, had you some significant disagreement with their "newest" and "latest" theology.
Now, they have it so dialed in, so deeply cultic....that most Catholics just bow to Mary and follow along like little blind puppies.......never questioning.

And yet...... This last Fake Pope........Francis, .... = Lots of Catholics were hoping He died sooner, as that one was devil owned and operated.
The new one, is going to have to reverse the "allow gays in the Priesthood" that Francis managed to get in, just before he died too late.

We'll See if Pope Leo follows suit, and if he does, then its going to be interesting to see if Catholics will sit there and just watch their cult turn into some "Woke" Transgendered Gay Rights Religious madness, that Francis was trying to create and unleash.
 

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They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. of Jesus Christ.

You left something out.
You left out ...

= Transubstantiation is the doctrine that during the Eucharist (also known as Holy Communion or the Lord's Supper), the bread and wine actually transform into the body and blood of Jesus Christ. .

So, once again, this is not found in Scripture, becaue Jesus already defined that taking Communion as : do this "in remembrance of Me".......its not Actually me you are eating.

This is more "cult of mary' ....man made........ religiosity.

And someone is going to post......>>"but it says to eat my flesh and drink my blood". John 6.

Well Reader........if Jesus meant that literally then He would have asked for the plate and the cup and a knife, and Jesus would have cut off some of his body and put it on the plate, , and cut his flesh and let it bleed into the cup, and passed it all around.
Did He do this?
NO !
So, we see that this is all SYMBOLIC........exactly like Water Baptism.
 
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