The new Pope has been selected

[Behold]

The reason why it was revealed to Peter, not any of the other apostles, by the Father, that Jesus was the Christ and His Son is because, since the first day he came with Jesus, he had been asking himself that question, and because he was simple and honest, he was able to understand and accept the reply that came to him from Heaven.

Stop guessing.

Better yet, stop making things up.

Here is the bottom line...........if Jesus had revealed it to Paul, or Billy Graham, or to St Bernadette, its still the REVELATION that is the place where the Church is "bulit'... Its built on JESUS who is the God man, the only begotten.

Let me show you how its built..

A person trusts in Christ...and now that is one more in the BODY of CHRIST that is the true Church.... whereas, if they trusted in Peter they cant be saved.., as Jesus is the WAY to the Father......not Peter and not water baptism.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You need to receive Him by His Spirit coming and dwelling within....aka the new birth....becoming a new creature with the new man being created after the image of He who creates it. In fact, not in theory. That way, you would have a testimony of this happening to you.

We absolutely DO. By receiving His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity – we receive Him FULLY . . .

Yes, the Lord's supper is not a "sacrament". Jesus didn't call it by any special name and we are not to depart from the simple simplicity of Christ.

This is contrary to what with MOST Protestants believe:
Two Protestant Sacraments

Baptism and The Lord’s Supper are universally recognized as the Two Protestant Sacraments.
Only fringe groups and quasi-Christian sects reject these as sacraments.

A Sacrament is a ritual. Jesus didn’t just randomly pass out bread and wine at the Last Supper. He told them to “DO THIS in memory of me.” This is the definition of a ritual.

Christianity and the gospel is a "way" of life, not a religion....it is THE Way. Unfortunately Catholicism departs from the simplicity of Christ in spades. The evangelical protestant church does too in certain ways, but nearly not to the same extent as Catholicism. There is to be no schism in the Body of Christ....no clergy/laity division.

Then, tell me why there are tens of thousands of Protestant “denominations”.

It is one body with many parts, not just one part in a pulpit. Paul wrote, "When you come together, every one of you hath...." something to contribute in service to the Lord and His body. How lovely and simple is that.

WHO said that we’re NOT made up of one Body with many parts??

1 Cor. 12 says that we are ONE Body with MANY parts – and they ALL need each other.
It also says that there are different ROLES within the Body:
1 Cor. 12:28-30
And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?

We are not instructed to hold formal "services" or "masses", we simply come together and assemble before God, presenting ourselves before Him and to Him as His servants and children, like we see the angels doing in the book of Job.........we ministering to Him, He ministering to us, and we ministering one to another...

The doctrines of the Church as they pertain to the Mass (Acts 2:46-47, 1 Cor. 10:16).

the Eucharist (Matt. 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-25, Luke 22:19-20, John 6:29-71, 1 Cor. 11:27-30).
Confession (Matt. 16:15, Matt. 18: 15-18, John 20:21-23, 2:Cor. 2:10, 5:18-20).
Baptism (Ezk. 36:25-28, Acts 2:37-38, Acts 10:48, John 3:5, Mark 16:16, Eph. 4:5) and so on.

The Book of Revelation is filled with similarities between Mass on earth and that of the heavenly liturgy.
(Rev. 1:10 Rev. 1:12, 2:5 Rev. 1:13, 4:4, 6:11, 7:9, 15:6, 19:13-14 Rev. 2:5, 16, 21; 3:3; 16:11 Rev. 15:3-4 Rev. 4:4, 5:14; 11:16, 14:3, 19:4 Rev. 5:8, 6:9-11, 8:3-4 Rev. 4:8 Rev. 2:17 Rev. 5:8, 8:3-4 Rev. 6:9, Rev. 5, Rev. 8:3, 11:1, 14:18, 16:7, Rev. 15:7, 16:1-4, 8, 10, 12, 17; 21:9, Rev. 19:1, 3, 4, 6, Rev. 5:14; 7:12; 19:4).

......as His Spirit leads when Christ is allowed to be Head of His own Body. At least that is how the bible shows us, but man likes to do things his own way...and that doesn't bear good fruit.

 

[Dash RipRock]

Peter did not see supernatural manifestations as his brother Andrew, John and James of Zebedee did

That's fake, Peter did see Jesus doing miracles as he spent 3 years with Jesus and was present during many miracles Jesus performed.

And that's why on that rock, Peter, Jesus said He would build His Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. Jesus gave Peter the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven and said that whatever he binds on earth, shall be bound also in Heaven. And whatever he loose on the earth shall be loosed also in Heaven. (Matt. 16:18-19, PV3)

Fake catholic assumption, reading in to scripture things it does not actually teach.

Funny how Paul had to correct Peter for Peter's false doctrine of trying to please those following the Law of Moses

Funny how the majority of the New Testament revelation came thru Paul and not thru Peter

Funny how none of the other Apostles spoke of Peter being the head guy or the "pope"

This is all fantasy fairytale assumption no0t based on God's Word.

 

[Dash RipRock]

I am so glad this new Pope Leo is standing on Biblical truth when it comes to certain issues.

But failing miserably on issues of salvation and how to actually know the Lord and spend eternity with Him.

truth mixed with lies just makes it all the more deceptive

That's the devil's game plan and it's how he deceives so many is by using some actual truth so he can con people in to taking poison.

If it takes a massively influential Catholic bishop to tell the truth & shock the world, then so be it.

He would get born again and leave the catholic "church" if he were to embrace Truth (God's Word is Truth - John 17:17)

So yes let's all pray for this dude to get born again and come out of the catholic "church" and be a real brother in the Lord.

Of course if he did that the catholic "church" would promptly kick him out!

Climate change and global warming is real

Yes, to those living in liberal fantasy land who must continue towing the marxist party line to be accepted by the liberals!

 

[Josho]

Yes, to those living in liberal fantasy land who must continue towing the marxist party line to be accepted by the liberals!

I don't see how a pro-life person fits that criteria, it certainly doesn't in Australia.

 

[Origen]

No one follows Peter.

Considering that Jesus elected and gave authority to twelve apostles to—in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit—preach the Gospel, perform miracles, make disciples, baptize, and forgive and retain sins, etc., and established the primacy of Peter, thereby instituting an apostolic office and succession within the living organism that is the Church He founded, it was with the intention for them and their successors to lead and be followed.

That is just your tradition speaking.

"So then, brothers, stand firm and hold the traditions which you were taught by us, whether by word or by letter." (2. Thess. 2:15)

Nobody takes Peter's place in the body as Peter is alive with an age enduring eternal life in heaven.

1 Cor 12

Unity and Diversity in One Body​

12 For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink [g]into one Spirit. 14 For in fact the body is not one member but many.

In 1 Cor. 12, Paul explains the individual parts make up one Body, that is, the Body of Christ, or Mystical Body, which Jesus is the invisible Head of, while Peter was the first visible leader or first head on Earth, with regards to ecclesiastical hierarchy. Our Pontiff, Leo the XIV, is Peter's 267th successor. Those that, for any reason, should separate from the Mother Church would be members cut off, no longer nourished with the Mystic Blood that is Grace coming from Jesus, the divine Head of the Church. If/when they return, whether it is a member of a separated Church, or an entire Church, or only one person or an assembly that comes back, the Church is to open the doors to them, because Jesus ardently wishes there to be only one fold under only one shepherd. (Jn. 10:16)

 

[Origen]

Stop guessing.

Better yet, stop making things up.

What I said wasn't a guess, nor a lie.

Here is the bottom line...........[...] its still the REVELATION that is the place where the Church is "bulit'... Its built on JESUS who is the God man, the only begotten.

And, again, Simon of Jonah believed Who Jesus was from the first moment he saw Him, and his belief in that was never shaken. That's why Jesus called him "Peter" ("כֵּיפָא";Cephas, or "Πέτρος";Petros) meaning "a stone, or rock" (Jn. 1:42). And that's why on that rock (Peter and his unwavering faith in the Christ and Son of God) Jesus said He would build His Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it, and gave Peter the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, and said that whatever Peter binds on earth, shall be bound also in Heaven. And whatever Peter loose on the earth shall be loosed also in Heaven. (Matt. 16:18-19, PV3)

One promise stands like a reef in defense of the Apostolic Church. Jesus' words: "They shall not prevail."

But observe the words accompanying this promise! They recall a quality of the Church. And they prompt another Gospel comparison. They say, "You are Peter, and on this Rock I shall build my Church."

A solid building, therefore. Of rock. Not of soft mud which the wind dries up and disperses or water dissolves, not of lime mortar which time deteriorates, not of bricks which a pick can undermine if introduced between them or shatter if smacked against them with rage. But of rock. A single rock-powerful, indestructible, unassailable, solid, firm. Do you remember John the Baptist? What is the praise Jesus utters of his Forerunner? It is this: "What did you go out to see in the desert? A reed shaken by the wind." (Matt. 11:7)

John, the Forerunner of Christianity, had to be this force which nothing cracks and knocks down. Otherwise, how could he have prepared the ways of the Lord—if he had been a weak man whom just anyone could have cast aside?

But is the Church Militant not perhaps the one which precedes the eternal Church Triumphant and prepares the great Victory of the Lamb in the Heavenly Jerusalem? How could the Bride dress herself in resplendent linen for her wedding, with no more weeping, if she changed from a queen into a slave, if before Satan's waves she were stripped of her members like leaves torn away by a whirlwind or she crumbled like a collapsing house? It would be horrible! Indescribably horrible. (BOA)

 

[Origen]

That's fake, Peter did see Jesus doing miracles as he spent 3 years with Jesus and was present during many miracles Jesus performed.

I didn't say that Peter didn't see, nor that he wasn't present for, any miracles at all.

Fake catholic assumption, reading in to scripture things it does not actually teach.

This is all fantasy fairytale assumption no0t based on God's Word.

That is all anti-Catholic polemics.

 

[Lizbeth]

We absolutely DO. By receiving His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity – we receive Him FULLY . . .

This is contrary to what with MOST Protestants believe:
Two Protestant Sacraments

Baptism and The Lord’s Supper are universally recognized as the Two Protestant Sacraments.
Only fringe groups and quasi-Christian sects reject these as sacraments.

A Sacrament is a ritual. Jesus didn’t just randomly pass out bread and wine at the Last Supper. He told them to “DO THIS in memory of me.” This is the definition of a ritual.

Then, tell me why there are tens of thousands of Protestant “denominations”.

WHO said that we’re NOT made up of one Body with many parts??

1 Cor. 12 says that we are ONE Body with MANY parts – and they ALL need each other.
It also says that there are different ROLES within the Body:
1 Cor. 12:28-30
And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?

The doctrines of the Church as they pertain to the Mass (Acts 2:46-47, 1 Cor. 10:16).

the Eucharist (Matt. 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-25, Luke 22:19-20, John 6:29-71, 1 Cor. 11:27-30).
Confession (Matt. 16:15, Matt. 18: 15-18, John 20:21-23, 2:Cor. 2:10, 5:18-20).
Baptism (Ezk. 36:25-28, Acts 2:37-38, Acts 10:48, John 3:5, Mark 16:16, Eph. 4:5) and so on.

The Book of Revelation is filled with similarities between Mass on earth and that of the heavenly liturgy.
(Rev. 1:10 Rev. 1:12, 2:5 Rev. 1:13, 4:4, 6:11, 7:9, 15:6, 19:13-14 Rev. 2:5, 16, 21; 3:3; 16:11 Rev. 15:3-4 Rev. 4:4, 5:14; 11:16, 14:3, 19:4 Rev. 5:8, 6:9-11, 8:3-4 Rev. 4:8 Rev. 2:17 Rev. 5:8, 8:3-4 Rev. 6:9, Rev. 5, Rev. 8:3, 11:1, 14:18, 16:7, Rev. 15:7, 16:1-4, 8, 10, 12, 17; 21:9, Rev. 19:1, 3, 4, 6, Rev. 5:14; 7:12; 19:4).

Baptism and communion are simple enactments of FAITH that Jesus ordained. Neither He nor the apostles gave them ecclesiastical names. To be profitable those acts must be of the faith of Christ, of His Spirit given to us, not of our own.....and not just a belief of the carnal mind. The flesh profits nothing, but the Spirit is life. And any act or ritual/sacrament that Jesus did not ordain but are only instituted by a "church", are at best useless, having no power and life, and at worst, is witchcraft that brings condemnation.

 

[Behold]

What I said wasn't a guess, nor a lie.

If you are a Christian, then what you posted qualified as untruth.
if you are a MaryCult member then what you said, is truth to them.

One day you will learn on this earth or after your death, that Jesus is the Rock, the Cornerstone, and God's Salvation. @Origen

Peter, Mary, Lucifer, and the Catholic Church..... need not apply for that ministry.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Baptism and communion are simple enactments of FAITH that Jesus ordained. Neither He nor the apostles gave them ecclesiastical names. To be profitable those acts must be of the faith of Christ, of His Spirit given to us, not of our own.....and not just a belief of the carnal mind. The flesh profits nothing, but the Spirit is life. And any act or ritual/sacrament that Jesus did not ordain but are only instituted by a "church", are at best useless, having no power and life, and at worst, is witchcraft that brings condemnation.

Soooo, I take it you boycott Baptisms, Weeding, Funerals, Graduations – things of that sort?

Sacred rituals have been part of God’s people since the beginning – and Good looked with favor upon them. God understands – better than YOU – that we are a physical, tangible people who need physical and tangible means to di His will.


Why do you think that Jesus used mud to heal the Blind Man??
Why did Jesus put His fingers in the Deaf Man’s ears to heal him?
Couldn’t He have just spoken and they would have been cured??

Why did Jesus tell Peter to pull a coin out of the fish to pay the tax?
Couldn’t He have just produced the coin with words?
WHY the Bible command us to anoint the sick with oi while praying over them??

You are missing the point here. Physical rituals aren’t for God – they’re for US.
They are a GIFT from God Himself so that we can worship more fully.

 

[Lizbeth]

Soooo, I take it you boycott Baptisms, Weeding, Funerals, Graduations – things of that sort?

Sacred rituals have been part of God’s people since the beginning – and Good looked with favor upon them. God understands – better than YOU – that we are a physical, tangible people who need physical and tangible means to di His will.


Why do you think that Jesus used mud to heal the Blind Man??
Why did Jesus put His fingers in the Deaf Man’s ears to heal him?
Couldn’t He have just spoken and they would have been cured??

Why did Jesus tell Peter to pull a coin out of the fish to pay the tax?
Couldn’t He have just produced the coin with words?
WHY the Bible command us to anoint the sick with oi while praying over them??

You are missing the point here. Physical rituals aren’t for God – they’re for US.
They are a GIFT from God Himself so that we can worship more fully.

What Catholicism is blind to is that Jesus' entire ministry was about hearing, seeing, and obeying the Father, His Spirit, through faith..... not about rituals. And He is the example we are to follow. Scripture records Him healing various ways, as led by the Spirit.....I don't think He hardly ever healed the same way twice, in order that we would get that message. It is the old covenant that was all about rote and rituals as mere shadows/types of the substance that was to come. Jesus brought the substance. He was and is the substance.

Notice how Catholicism resembles those old covenant shadows.....priests, robes, incense, bells, altar, liturgy, tabernacle, formal services, vows, etc. Neither Jesus nor the apostles followed or instructed those things under the new covenant.......because the new covenant is a living Way through the Spirit, not a dead religion which only cleans and whitewashes the outside of the cup, but inside is full of dead men's bones. It's a form of Godliness, while denying the power/life.....Catholicism is all about forms without the substance.

 

[BreadOfLife]

What Catholicism is blind to is that Jesus' entire ministry was about hearing, seeing, and obeying the Father, His Spirit, through faith..... not about rituals. And He is the example we are to follow. Scripture records Him healing various ways, as led by the Spirit.....I don't think He hardly ever healed the same way twice, in order that we would get that message. It is the old covenant that was all about rote and rituals as mere shadows/types of the substance that was to come. Jesus brought the substance. He was and is the substance.

And, I just gave you SEVERAL examples of Jesus performing ritualistic healings.

Not only is Jesus NOT against using tangible means to convey the Father’s will – He did it HIMSELF.

Notice how Catholicism resembles those old covenant shadows.....priests, robes, incense, bells, altar, liturgy, tabernacle, formal services, vows, etc. Neither Jesus nor the apostles followed or instructed those things under the new covenant.......because the new covenant is a living Way through the Spirit, not a dead religion which only cleans and whitewashes the outside of the cup, but inside is full of dead men's bones. It's a form of Godliness, while denying the power/life..

HUH??

It’s not about “shadows” and Old Covenant rituals. It’s about New Testament and New Covenant worship and practices.

- Why are we commanded in the Epistle of James us to call the elders to ANOINT the sick (James 5:14)?

- Why does Jesus command us to evangelize the world and to BAPTIZE them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matt. 28:19)??

These are New Covenant RITUALS that God gave us in His infinite wisdom because He knows that we NOT just spiritual – but are a physical people.

...Catholicism is all about forms without the substance.

That’s hilarious, coming from a person who rejects the substance of the Eucharist.

Your lack of faith in the words of Jesus is encapsulated by the following verses:
John 6:66-67
From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
“Do you also want to leave?”

 

[Lizbeth]

And, I just gave you SEVERAL examples of Jesus performing ritualistic healings.

Not only is Jesus NOT against using tangible means to convey the Father’s will – He did it HIMSELF.

HUH??

It’s not about “shadows” and Old Covenant rituals. It’s about New Testament and New Covenant worship and practices.

- Why are we commanded in the Epistle of James us to call the elders to ANOINT the sick (James 5:14)?

- Why does Jesus command us to evangelize the world and to BAPTIZE them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matt. 28:19)??

These are New Covenant RITUALS that God gave us in His infinite wisdom because He knows that we NOT just spiritual – but are a physical people.

That’s hilarious, coming from a person who rejects the substance of the Eucharist.

Your lack of faith in the words of Jesus is encapsulated by the following verses:
John 6:66-67
From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
“Do you also want to leave?”

I don't[ wonder at all that you can't "hear" what I'm trying to convey. Come to Jesus and He will give you light to see by...and life.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I don't[ wonder at all that you can't "hear" what I'm trying to convey. Come to Jesus and He will give you light to see by...and life.

I see - sooooo, you have NO argument against my rock-solid and completely Biblical argument.

Got it . . .

 

[Lizbeth]

I see - sooooo, you have NO argument against my rock-solid and completely Biblical argument.

Got it . . .

Not at all, I'm just finished arguing with you.