I have my doubts that Catholicism is Christianity

[Triumph1300]

OK goodie, you are finally starting to get it.

Admit it.
You didn't have a clue it all comes as a result of BA .
Good thing you got it now.

 

[Dash RipRock]

Admit it.
You didn't have a clue it all comes as a result of BA .
Good thing you got it now.

Keep telling yourself that so you can keep that smug false superiority complex thing going in your darkened carnal mind as you never even mentioned Ephesians 4:22-24, Romans 13:14, Colossians 3:10, 2 Corinthians 6:17.

You false doctrine people crack me up. It's like comedy central up in here and you are the ring leader!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Well, i agree with you that only God knows the hearts.

Many many catholics do not know that only the LORD Jesus Christ can Save them.

This is why they place their trust in Mary & rosary beads, the Pope, the Vatican, holy eucharist and RCC priests etc etc...

Mary is the Mother of GOD no less - how can she fail us.........surely she can tell her son jesus to do good for us = yes or no?

Well of course that is true. Being a good baptist or assembly of God or lutheran or Episcopalian or Presbyterian et. al doesn't save.

Many are saved, many are not! I wll pray for both that they can get to know their Savior.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You can ask them about their testimony of coming to faith in Christ and their current living relationship with Him. We are saved by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony....if any have not a testimony of coming to Christ and Him coming to them, they are very likely not born again and saved. If anyone truly loves Catholics they will tell them that salvation is by the Spirit of God/Christ and no other way. They will warn them about the false religious institution they are serving and putting their faith in, instead of in Christ.

Those having a form of Godliness but denying the power....we are told to turn away from such. My understanding of that word is that it means to not accept/embrace them as brothers and sisters in Christ, and not be unequally yoked with them. Of course it doesn't mean we are to be unloving or neglect to witness to and evangelize them. But you will find nominal believers are the hardest to evangelize because they think they are fine as they are....this is why Jesus said He would rather anyone be cold or hot....it's generally easier to evangelize those who are completely stone cold unbelievers than those who are lukewarm nominal believers not knowing their need of Christ.

Absolutely true! But as I will never ever be able to interview 1.2 billion Catholics, I only know the general truth.

I have led people who grew up in a Christian sect or cult and I have led those who never had any christian education. I find that those who are searching are the easiest to lead to the Lord whether they are religious or not.

It is God who moves the heart and not our generalized way of describing situations.

 

[Lizbeth]

Absolutely true! But as I will never ever be able to interview 1.2 billion Catholics, I only know the general truth.

I have led people who grew up in a Christian sect or cult and I have led those who never had any christian education. I find that those who are searching are the easiest to lead to the Lord whether they are religious or not.

It is God who moves the heart and not our generalized way of describing situations.

We know by it's teachings that the Catholic church is not leading souls to Christ, only to itself, so it's not hard to surmise the spiritual status of most Catholics, who follow and believe it's teachings.

 

[NotTheRock]

Keep telling yourself that so you can keep that smug false superiority complex thing going in your mind as you reject what the Lord instructs His people to do in Ephesians 4:22-24, Romans 13:14, Colossians 3:10, 2 Corinthians 6:17.

You false doctrine people crack me up. It's like comedy central up in here!

You misunderstand and then condemn others.

 

[nedsk]

Brother, Paul told us that the scriptures are sufficient for us to be COMPLETE. The Catholic Church rejects this and says that what Jesus and the Apostles taught is INCOMPLETE because the CC has added a plethora of doctrines.

2 Timothy 3:16-17​

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16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God[a] may be complete, equipped for every good work.

No he didn't. Stop lying

 

[Dash RipRock]

You misunderstand and then condemn others.

No, I'm actually not the one misunderstanding what being born again actually is.

The CINOs (christian in name only) are the ones that need to accept what the Lord says in His Word.

No he didn't. Stop lying

Then by all means, enjoy thy fake extra biblical doctrine and see where you spend eternity.

 

[nedsk]

No, I'm actually not the one misunderstanding what being born again actually is.

The CINOs (christian in name only) are the ones that need to accept what the Lord says in His Word.



Then by all means, enjoy thy fake extra biblical doctrine and see where you spend eternity.

No, I'm actually not the one misunderstanding what being born again actually is.

The CINOs (christian in name only) are the ones that need to accept what the Lord says in His Word.



Then by all means, enjoy thy fake extra biblical doctrine and see where you spend eternity.

The best part is where I spend eternity isn't dependent on what you believe.

 

[Dash RipRock]

The best part is where I spend eternity isn't dependent on what you believe.

It is however dependent upon what the Lord teaches in His Word which you don't adhere to.

Those following extra biblical teachings believe the :Lord FAILED to put all He wants man to know in written form so they seek to add to God's Word what they think God totally forgot to put in and they do so with the leading of the devil which will become evident once they die and go south for eternity

 

[Ronald Nolette]

We know by it's teachings that the Catholic church is not leading souls to Christ, only to itself, so it's not hard to surmise the spiritual status of most Catholics, who follow and believe it's teachings.

Well my Aunt who is Catholic is the one who led me to the Lord with the gospel. I was part of a local Catholic Charismatic prayer communityh8 where we had over 2000 saved catholics.

The RCC is loaded with false doctrines, but the gospel is also found in the midst of the garbage and people do get saved.

 

[nedsk]

It is however dependent upon what the Lord teaches in His Word which you don't adhere to.

Those following extra biblical teachings believe the :Lord FAILED to put all He wants man to know in written form so they seek to add to God's Word what they think God totally forgot to put in and they do so with the leading of the devil which will become evident once they die and go south for eternity

But Scripture teaches heed traditions as taught by the apsotles

Well my Aunt who is Catholic is the one who led me to the Lord with the gospel. I was part of a local Catholic Charismatic prayer communityh8 where we had over 2000 saved catholics.

The RCC is loaded with false doctrines, but the gospel is also found in the midst of the garbage and people do get saved.

False doctrine like Sola fide and Sola scriptura? Not

 

[Ronald Nolette]

But Scripture teaches heed traditions as taught by the apsotles

False doctrine like Sola fide and Sola scriptura? Not

Traditions is didachos which are the teachings- those are found in the Scriptures.

And sorry but salvation by Grace alone is the bible. and sola scrip[tura, meaning Scripture is the sole and final authority of truth is biblical!

 

[nedsk]

Traditions is didachos which are the teachings- those are found in the Scriptures.

And sorry but salvation by Grace alone is the bible. and sola scrip[tura, meaning Scripture is the sole and final authority of truth is biblical!

Show from Scripture that's what Paul was referring to.

prove it from Scripture. Scripture doesn't teach that unless you can show it.

 

[Searcher]

We know by it's teachings that the Catholic church is not leading souls to Christ, only to itself, so it's not hard to surmise the spiritual status of most Catholics, who follow and believe it's teachings.

Agreed. But also I know a few catholics. I dont know any that believe everything the RCC teaches. One in particlar went through catholic school and hasnt been to mass in years. Since the RCC considers it a sin to miss mass I guess she would be in trouble. I guess my point is that Ive yet to talk to a catholic that believes it all.

 

[nedsk]

Agreed. But also I know a few catholics. I dont know any that believe everything the RCC teaches. One in particlar went through catholic school and hasnt been to mass in years. Since the RCC considers it a sin to miss mass I guess she would be in trouble. I guess my point is that Ive yet to talk to a catholic that believes it all.

then they aren't Catholic.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Show from Scripture that's what Paul was referring to.

prove it from Scripture. Scripture doesn't teach that unless you can show it.

As far as Scripture being sole authority:

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Then read Psalm 119.

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

And as for being saved by faith alone through grace?

Ephesians 2:8-9

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8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

From JOhn 3:

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

There are many more but these should suffice.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

then they aren't Catholic.

Then instead of 1.2 billion Catholics, there would be less than 50,000,000.

Even Poppe Francis did not believe all Catholic doctrine.

 

[nedsk]

As far as Scripture being sole authority:

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Then read Psalm 119.

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

And as for being saved by faith alone through grace?

Ephesians 2:8-9​

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King James Version​

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8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

From JOhn 3:

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

There are many more but these should suffice.

Profitable is not sufficient. Every single time

 

[nedsk]

Then instead of 1.2 billion Catholics, there would be less than 50,000,000.

Even Poppe Francis did not believe all Catholic doctrine.

A smaller stronger church is superior to a larger and weaker one.

Which one didnt he believe?