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JustMe

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Based on who He chose during His first visit 2000 years ago, I dare say we may be surprised when Jesus returns and we find who He considers to be “real Christians”.

And there may be a few who will be astonished to find out He considers us “real Christians”.
Hello, and your comment is very important for today. Allow me to open up more on this essential subject, on the back of your post.

Many should take this subject of being and not just knowing they are genuine Christians very seriously, in my humble opinion.

There's a lot of mental head talk and not so much real spiritual action and true focus to God and his Christ in Christianity these days. And this lack of spirit of Christ from God in one's life is fooling many into thinking they are being soulfully saved today, and they are not.

I read recently on one thread here that a Christian is defined by being a 'follower' of Christ.

Being a Christian involves more than just following Christ; it includes being in Christ's spirit and filled with and guided by God's spirit daily. This means living a life empowered by the Spirit to reflect Christ's attitude and mind from the heart.

A Christian disciple must do more than believe; they must follow Christ actively. This involves a continuous process of growth and transformation, as described in 2 Corinthians 3, where the Spirit works in believers to make them more like Christ. This is the goal.

From R. Christian Bohlen: He highlights the importance of believing, which is not merely mental assent but a commitment to obey and follow Christ. This belief and obedience are essential for a Christian to live a life that honors Jesus and reflects His grace.

And according to the C.S. Lewis Institute: following Jesus requires a radical faith and love, acknowledging the impossibility of fulfilling such a call without the power of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit empowers believers to obey Christ's teachings and follow His example.

Therefore, being a Christian is about being in Christ's Spirit every day, allowing the Holy Spirit to guide and transform one's life in accordance with Christ's teachings and example. And if this is not happening in one's life, please pray about it.

When Christ returns, he will find little faith for sure, as expected, unfortunately.
 
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Being a Christian involves more than just following Christ; it includes being in Christ's spirit and filled with and guided by God's spirit daily. This means living a life empowered by the Spirit to reflect Christ's attitude and mind from the heart.
There really isn’t anything we can do to be in Christ’s spirit; only God can do that. So why worry about it?
 
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One of the big complaints I see from those who have left the organized church is that we’ve left obeying Christ’s teaching’s (especially those about concern for “the last and the least”) and living a life of self-denial as He did and instead focus on believing the right things and trying stamp out the other guys’ sins.
 

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There really isn’t anything we can do to be in Christ’s spirit; only God can do that. So why worry about it?
Not a worry, as God does this work within a person as you suggested. I just want to sometimes interject, and run interference at times, when I clearly see err or ambiguity in some important doctrine. Thanks
 

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One of the big complaints I see from those who have left the organized church is that we’ve left obeying Christ’s teaching’s (especially those about concern for “the last and the least”) and living a life of self-denial as He did and instead focus on believing the right things and trying stamp out the other guys’ sins.
Again, the same symptom of being an inactive spiritless 'Christian.' And then to add ill-informed even knee-jerked judgements upon someone else's apparent sins in their journey to complete salvation.

We do think and act high and mighty of ourselves, at times, don't we? We all need a come-to-Jesus meeting, a real sobering self-check in this regard. I hope a brother or sister in Christ is around to lend us a hand during these moments of self-examination.
 

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I was thinking just now about “real Christians” @Pet. Given what you believe, wouldn’t it be more likely that you come across those whom you consider to be “real Christians” in the “Christians Only” forums rather than in the “NonChristian” forums?
 
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Did you know when you post comments on a PUBLIC forum that others have the ability to comment about your comments???

Did you know you can have private conversations with people using private messaging that are not seen by the public and as such would be totally private and others would not have the ability to comment about your comments???

Therein is the difference between a public conversation and a private conversation! View attachment 63498

It was your assertion that you had asked me a question previously which I was sure that you had not.

I said IF you didn't know... did you know?

I know that it was not you who had asked this question of me. That was why I said this: -

I did not know that you were part of the conversation I was having with someone else.

Me thinks that your slip is showing but it does not turn me on.
 

Jay Ross

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No need to talk about your sexual perversions man. View attachment 63531

And now you are trying to tear the fork out of your nightie.

It is obvious that you, by attempting to make a perverse suggestion about my character, are trying to defend your religious cohort.

When someone stated, usually another woman, that a woman was "showing her slip" they were suggesting that the woman showing her slip was loose with her morals.

When I stated this: -

Me thinks that your slip is showing but it does not turn me on.

I was quietly stating that I was not interested in what you were trying to sell about your perverse religious beliefs.
 

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Again, the same symptom of being an inactive spiritless 'Christian.'
This is the biggest problem. It is in the Scripture: ask for the Spirit, and God gives Him to you. What is going on? Are they not asking? Can't recognize Him? Or losing Him because never used His guidance (parable about talants)? I think it is everything above plus other reasons.
I see Christianity relies on many things but not on The Spirit. It is scary to be guided by Spirit. I mean, church leaders warn against following the wrong spirits and in the end, nobody follows the Holy Spirit.

1st problem I see is "unwillingness to renounce oneself".
To treat this, you must hate your sins, reactivity, slavery to animal nature. Be honest, be pure hearted, rely on God and trust - He is very close to you if you ever thought about Him in a good way. Real dead sinners have no thoughts about God, if only they wanted to have benefits from believing to Him. If you see the world as a wrong place for you, God already worked with you.
Love toward God must become number 1 priority. And everything will lay down smoothly. Because you will seek Him non stop, day and night, and will ask for leberation. God must be our biggest Treasure.
I asked for guidance. He created situation, where I started to hear the classical music masterpiece. And He induced question inside me - do you like this music and pleasure from it more than God? I immediately started seeking God and suppressing feeling, they were like a blinders, not allowing me to see God. I stepped over feelings and found Him and sensed Him without feeling and emotions. And it was very deep, strong, pure, gentle experience. I found the way to observe Him anytime I want (when He allows, or rather if I opened my heart. Denying yourself is include denying feelings. If people never tried this, they may feel God by their flesh. But Spirit gives ability to sence God differently, not by feelings in our flesh. I believe, for many Christians, that feeling in their flesh induced by God's presence after repentance became substitute for Real God. Very sad. People come to church, sing the songs to feel, not to find God. How can their renounce oneself if it is the only experience with God they had? Christians can't even reach the stage being the slave of two masters. Because many teachings from Jesus about the next step, after receiving and accepting God's Spirit.
 
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This is the biggest problem. It is in the Scripture: ask for the Spirit, and God gives Him to you. What is going on? Are they not asking? Can't recognize Him? Or losing Him because never used His guidance (parable about talants)? I think it is everything above plus other reasons.
I see Christianity relies on many things but not on The Spirit. It is scary to be guided by Spirit. I mean, church leaders warn against following the wrong spirits and in the end, nobody follows the Holy Spirit.

1st problem I see is "unwillingness to renounce oneself".
To treat this, you must hate your sins, reactivity, slavery to animal nature. Be honest, be pure hearted, rely on God and trust - He is very close to you if you ever thought about Him in a good way. Real dead sinners have no thoughts about God, if only they wanted to have benefits from believing to Him. If you see the world as a wrong place for you, God already worked with you.
Love toward God must become number 1 priority. And everything will lay down smoothly. Because you will seek Him non stop, day and night, and will ask for leberation. God must be our biggest Treasure.
I asked for guidance. He created situation, where I started to hear the classical music masterpiece. And He induced question inside me - do you like this music and pleasure from it more than God? I immediately started seeking God and suppressing feeling, they were like a blinders, not allowing me to see God. I stepped over feelings and found Him and sensed Him without feeling and emotions. And it was very deep, strong, pure, gentle experience. I found the way to observe Him anytime I want (when He allows, or rather if I opened my heart. Denying yourself is include denying feelings. If people never tried this, they may feel God by their flesh. But Spirit gives ability to sence God differently, not by feelings in our flesh. I believe, for many Christians, that feeling in their flesh induced by God's presence after repentance became substitute for Real God. Very sad. People come to church, sing the songs to feel, not to find God. How can their renounce oneself if it is the only experience with God they had? Christians can't even reach the stage being the slave of two masters. Because many teachings from Jesus about the next step, after receiving and accepting God's Spirit.
You write convincingly to me as if you are a real and genuine Christian that possessed the Spirit of God.

And, yes, God does touch us in many ways in this life, and re-energizes us to stay on course in our daily walk, listen and conform to his Son, and to do the Father's will.

Yes, people need to yield their will over to the Spirit they possess...and walk in holiness, in full.

I do like how you can write, with some clarity on this subject with more depth than many on this site I've observed thus far.

Thank you for your post.
 

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Hey, I'm not the one inferring men are wearing women's clothing.

I'm simply asking for you to keep that kind of thing to yourself as nobody needs to hear that kinda garbage.

Do you wear clothes with a fork in them? Does a nightie/night shirt have a fork in them?

If your answer to the first question is yes, then you would have understood my statement that you were trying to tear a fork out of a nightie as a nightie does not have a fork in it.

As to your claim that I am the one who was inferring that men are wearing women's clothing. it is you who is not understanding what it is that I am saying using expression of speak that I remember from my youth.

In the first statement that your slip is showing, I was saying quietly that your moral compass is not what I am searching for.

In the second statement about a fork in a nightie, I could have used a more American expression like, "Making Mountain out of a mole hill," which you may have understood in the context that I had used with the expression, "tearing the fork out of a nightie."

It seems to me that you kinda do not know how to take a hint. I am not interested in your fake religious take and do not need to hear it. So can you POQ. You have nothing that I would be interested in learning from you.
 

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No, I use a fork at the dinner table.... I don't use forks in my clothes View attachment 63739

And thus, you show your ignorance. If you do not want to have a fork in any of your clothes, then stop wearing pants etc. because all pants have a fork in them.

Now will you stop being a troll, Troll.

Now be a good "kid" and go and annoy someone else for a change.
 

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I was thinking just now about “real Christians” @Pet. Given what you believe, wouldn’t it be more likely that you come across those whom you consider to be “real Christians” in the “Christians Only” forums rather than in the “NonChristian” forums?
I can't. I've not 'earned' enough. I have insufficient privileges to post anywhere. presumed that everyone would be Christian on a Christian forum. Silly I know :)
 

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I can't. I've not 'earned' enough. I have insufficient privileges to post anywhere. presumed that everyone would be Christian on a Christian forum. Silly I know :)

If you change your registration from “Other Faith” to “Christian” you will automatically have the privilege of posting in all forums. That would give you more opportunities to speak with others who believe as you do.
 

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If your partner, family, friends etc, don't often talk about Jesus, and the things of God...they're not real Christians!
Do not be deceived.
I know far too many people who talk about God and Jesus all the time and most likely don't know Christ from Adam.

Yes indeed, do not be deceived.