Interesting preterist argument

[NotTheRock]

He sounds like a full preterist, meaning all of Revelation is over and done.

Yes, he does. Honestly I don’t know what to make of all of it. It's an interesting topic.

 

[NotTheRock]

Rev 21
Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth...

In fairness to "Shade", I didn't hear him say that this part of Revelation has happened.

 

[Scott Downey]

In fairness to "Shade", I didn't hear him say that this part of Revelation has happened.

When you start talking with full preterists, they will tell you we are living in the new heaven and earth today, and that all of Revelation has occurred. They tie all of this to Jerusalem's destruction in 70 AD

 

[Scott Downey]

The return of Christ is a worldwide event of sudden destruction, not just one city.

1 Thessalonians 5​

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New King James Version​

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The Day of the Lord​

1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be [a]sober. 7 For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night. 8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation. 9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.
11 Therefore [b]comfort each other and [c]edify one another, just as you also are doing.

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And notice this are written to gentile churches far away from Jerusalem
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2 Thessalonians 1

1 Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy,

To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

God’s Final Judgment and Glory​

3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, 4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and [a]tribulations that you endure, 5 which is manifest[b] evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; 6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with [c]tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, 12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

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v7 thru v10 obviously did not happen in 70 AD
There has been no sudden destruction of unbelievers, they still live today.

 

[Scott Downey]

The War of the Jews: The History of the Destruction of Jerusalem​

IF you can find his book online, you can read about the things that happened in 70 AD to the city and people of Israel back then.

Ok, found it, yes it is interesting

The War of the Jews - Wikisource, the free online library

en.wikisource.org

The later books in the series tell of various events at the time of the destruction

 

[NotTheRock]

When you start talking with full preterists, they will tell you we are living in the new heaven and earth today, and that all of Revelation has occurred. They tie all of this to Jerusalem's destruction in 70 AD

Ok.

 

[Marty fox]

I haven't watched it.

I am inclined to believe that a lot of the stuff that we were taught would happen in the future actually applied to ancient Jerusalem and Israel.

His channel is a fascinating listen.

Yes me too but not everything I believe that the rapture happens moments before the second and final coming

 

[Jay Ross]

Preterist make an assumption that in Mat 24:34, that when Jesus made this statement, "Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened." is understood to mean a "descendant" generation and not a long period of time, i.e. just over 1,000 years, which is consistently labelled within the Hebrew texts as a "generation" or "age".

I recently read a book written by a preterist on the Verse Matt 16:28, which he describes as "The Most Embarrassing verse in the Bible." based what CS Lewis wrote when he said, "It is certainly the most embarrassing verse in the Bible."

Sadly, to understand what Christ meant in Matthew 16:28 we need to also consider the context of the paragraph where it is found.

Matthew 16:24-28: - Take Up the Cross and Follow Him​

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24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. 25 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? 27 For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works. 28 Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”​

In this paragraph Christ was speaking of our need to take up our cross and follow Him. He also referenced His second coming when He will reward each according to their works was translated from G:4238 which has the following meaning: -



Now when Christ returns to reward the people of the earth at His second coming, He will judge between the righteous and the unrighteous, with the righteous being given "Life" and the inheritance in the whole earth, while the unrighteous will be dispatched into the Lake of Fire which is the Second death.

Now, Christ, in Matthew 16:27-28 was speaking of a time some 3,000 plus years into the distant future from His first advent and not, as Preterist suggest, a near future event only about 40 years into their future.

Now when Christ state that some standing with Him would not taste death until He comes in the Glory of His Father and His Angels, he was speaking that some who were standing with Him would taste the second Death when He came to judge the people of the earth

Now because they have not realised that Christ was speaking of the Second Death, they make the assumption that he was speaking that some who were standing with Him will not die physically until He came a second time.

One small misstep in our understanding of what is recorded in the scriptures will always lead to bigger errors in our understanding of the Bible.

I believe that I have understood the context of Matthew 16:24-28 and what is being said by Christ in these verses. On the other hand, Preterists because of their contextual error with respect to this passage, force upon themselves even bigger errors in their understand of the end time events.

However, it is up to each of us to consider what the scripture conveys for ourselves and come to the conclusions that we then hold.

Shalom

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Preterist make an assumption that in Mat 24:34, that when Jesus made this statement, "Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened." is understood to mean a "descendant" generation and not a long period of time, i.e. just over 1,000 years, which is consistently labelled within the Hebrew texts as a "generation" or "age".

I recently read a book written by a preterist on the Verse Matt 16:28, which he describes as "The Most Embarrassing verse in the Bible." based what CS Lewis wrote when he said, "It is certainly the most embarrassing verse in the Bible."

Sadly, to understand what Christ meant in Matthew 16:28 we need to also consider the context of the paragraph where it is found.

Matthew 16:24-28: - Take Up the Cross and Follow Him​

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24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. 25 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? 27 For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works. 28 Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”​

In this paragraph Christ was speaking of our need to take up our cross and follow Him. He also referenced His second coming when He will reward each according to their works was translated from G:4238 which has the following meaning: -

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Now when Christ returns to reward the people of the earth at His second coming, He will judge between the righteous and the unrighteous, with the righteous being given "Life" and the inheritance in the whole earth, while the unrighteous will be dispatched into the Lake of Fire which is the Second death.

Now, Christ, in Matthew 16:27-28 was speaking of a time some 3,000 plus years into the distant future from His first advent and not, as Preterist suggest, a near future event only about 40 years into their future.

Now when Christ state that some standing with Him would not taste death until He comes in the Glory of His Father and His Angels, he was speaking that some who were standing with Him would taste the second Death when He came to judge the people of the earth

Now because they have not realised that Christ was speaking of the Second Death, they make the assumption that he was speaking that some who were standing with Him will not die physically until He came a second time.

One small misstep in our understanding of what is recorded in the scriptures will always lead to bigger errors in our understanding of the Bible.

I believe that I have understood the context of Matthew 16:24-28 and what is being said by Christ in these verses. On the other hand, Preterists because of their contextual error with respect to this passage, force upon themselves even bigger errors in their understand of the end time events.

However, it is up to each of us to consider what the scripture conveys for ourselves and come to the conclusions that we then hold.

Shalom

In Matthew 16:28 Jesus was talking about His transfiguration which is described immediately following that verse. He gave some of the disciples standing there (Peter, James and John) a foreshadowing of His future coming in glory with His angels, that He referenced in Matthew 16:27, by being transfigured before them.

 

[Jay Ross]

In Matthew 16:28 Jesus was talking about His transfiguration which is described immediately following that verse. He gave some of the disciples standing there (Peter, James and John) a foreshadowing of His future coming in glory with His angels, that He referenced in Matthew 16:27, by being transfigured before them.

Depending upon the translation we use, depends on whether or not Matt 16:28 has been linked by the translation with the Transfiguration Passage.

However, Matt 17:1 suggests that there are six days separating Matt 16:24-28 from Matt 17:1-13 whereas Luke 9:28 suggests that eight days are separating these two recorded events.

Because the two recorded passages have a time gap between them, I would suggest that contextually that they are not linked in any way.

Shalom

 

[Grailhunter]

I find that the many so-called theologians pick and choose both religious prophecies and historical events as their signposts with which to explain what the scriptures was saying.

However, just one wrong interpretation of scripture can send a person down the wrong rabbit hole of error.

The first error in peoples understanding is around Genesis 2:17 which is the first reference to people in the distant future, dying the second death, at the time of the final judgement at the end of the seventh age/generation. Many have argued about what the death was that was being spoken about by God because Adam surely did not die. When Adam sinned by eating the fruit of the forbidden tree, he literally became a candidate for the second death at the time of the final judgement.

Another wrong understanding of the scriptures is found in Exodus 20:4-6 where God foretold that the continual sinning of the fathers during the first and second ages of the existence of the Israelites, that these iniquities would be visited upon their children and the children's children during the third and the fourth age/generation of the existence of the nation of Israel. The end of the first two ages of the nation of Israel indulging in continual idolatrous worship ended with the birth of Christ at the beginning of the third age/generation of Isael's existence. In Daniel 9:24a, we read of God's grace towards the Nation of Israel where He gave the fathers of Israel and opportunity over 490 years to repent of their continual idolatrous worship of Idols. Israel did not take this opportunity to repent before the birth of Christ. So, in the Daniel 9:25b-26 we read of the foretold destruction of God's temple and the scattering of God's earthly hosts to the four corners of the earth over a period of two ages/generation when the war in Heaven between God's Angels and Satan's fallen Angels concludes and Satan is forced out of heaven to be gathered with the judged kings of the earth at Armageddon and imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit for 1,000 years before they are released for the little while period at the end of the Seventh Age. 2 Chronicles 7:12ff also speaks of the destruction of the temple and the scattering of the nation of Israel to the four corners of the earth and explains why God brought this disaster upon Israel.

Now I have used the same methodology as was suggested in the video justifying the Preterist's explanation of the events that took place around 70 AD.

Others, like Ellenor White, also used the same method to justify their reasoning and understanding of the scriptures.

I also above used the same methodology to justify my conclusions in explaining away the recorded historical events around 70 AD.

However, when the basis for my conclusions is flawed, then it becomes very easy for Satan to influence me to move further away from God's presented word so as to become an enemy of God.

Seeing God's big picture and being able to explain how God's Plan for the Salvation of all of the peoples of the world will unfold is becoming more difficult with the noise coming from all of the so-called soothsayers presenting their pet theories.

God has deliberately provided long periods of times between all of His Prophetic words so that it is difficult for people to comprehend or understand when the events will take place. It seems to me that there are many events that will occur in quick succession around a major event that happens that will often create uncertainty in our conclusions.

Preterist have difficulty in explaining God's Salvation Plan for all of the people of the earth.

Do they make any good points? Probably the point they make that our focus should always be on God regardless of How God's Plan pans out.

Now opinions on interpreting scriptures and prophecies abound, it is one of the reasons that we have over 30,000 Protestant denominations. Freedom of opinions and freedom of religious beliefs is very important. I am an educated Theologian and I stand and worship the Lord with several denominations. (I know a lot of Christians have a negative view on education but that is mostly because they are intimidated by education in general. Try having an uneducated brain surgeon work on you….)

But you mentioned Theologians….True Theologians are educated and are not attached to any specific denomination. If you hear of or if people calls themselves like Baptist Theologians….they are not Theologians, they are Baptist scholars or knowledgeable about the beliefs of the Baptist denomination(s).

But educated or not your opinion is a valid discussion on this forum. It is always a good thing to talk about God and scriptures.

 

[ewq1938]

over 30,000 Protestant denominations.

Can you prove that?

 

[Davy]

This guy lays out a good argument for Jesus's return in 70 AD. I'm curious for your thoughts IF you watch the 25-minute video.

There is no... argument possible that proves Jesus returned in 70 A.D. That is a doctrine of men, called Full Preterism. It goes against the written Bible Scriptures. And simple common sense with all The Bible's prophesied events that are to happen when Lord Jesus returns should make the believer on Jesus Christ easily aware that any doctrine pushing a 'different' coming is likely a work of the devil.

 

[claninja]

Preterist make an assumption that in Mat 24:34, that when Jesus made this statement, "Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened." is understood to mean a "descendant" generation and not a long period of time, i.e. just over 1,000 years, which is consistently labelled within the Hebrew texts as a "generation" or "age".

It’s not an assumption. It’s based on the vast majority of dictionaries, lexicons, biblical commentaries, and English translations recognizing genea means a generation, as in a group of people living that the same time, in the context of the Olivet discourse.

I recently read a book written by a preterist on the Verse Matt 16:28, which he describes as "The Most Embarrassing verse in the Bible."

I think CS Lewis was referring to the olivet discourse, not Matthew 16:28

• “Say what you like,” we shall be told, “the apocalyptic beliefs of the first Christians have been proved to be false. It is clear from the New Testament that they all expected the Second Coming in their own lifetime. And, worse still, they had a reason, and one which you will find very embarrassing. Their Master had told them so. He shared, and indeed created, their delusion. He said in so many words, ‘this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.’ And he was wrong. He clearly knew no more about the end of the world than anyone else.”

 

[NotTheRock]

It’s not an assumption. It’s based on the vast majority of dictionaries, lexicons, biblical commentaries, and English translations recognizing genea means a generation, as in a group of people living that the same time, in the context of the Olivet discourse.



I think CS Lewis was referring to the olivet discourse, not Matthew 16:28

• “Say what you like,” we shall be told, “the apocalyptic beliefs of the first Christians have been proved to be false. It is clear from the New Testament that they all expected the Second Coming in their own lifetime. And, worse still, they had a reason, and one which you will find very embarrassing. Their Master had told them so. He shared, and indeed created, their delusion. He said in so many words, ‘this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.’ And he was wrong. He clearly knew no more about the end of the world than anyone else.”

Did you watch the video?

 

[Scott Downey]

Preterist make an assumption that in Mat 24:34, that when Jesus made this statement, "Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened." is understood to mean a "descendant" generation and not a long period of time, i.e. just over 1,000 years, which is consistently labelled within the Hebrew texts as a "generation" or "age".

I recently read a book written by a preterist on the Verse Matt 16:28, which he describes as "The Most Embarrassing verse in the Bible." based what CS Lewis wrote when he said, "It is certainly the most embarrassing verse in the Bible."

Sadly, to understand what Christ meant in Matthew 16:28 we need to also consider the context of the paragraph where it is found.

Matthew 16:24-28: - Take Up the Cross and Follow Him​

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24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. 25 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? 27 For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works. 28 Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”​

In this paragraph Christ was speaking of our need to take up our cross and follow Him. He also referenced His second coming when He will reward each according to their works was translated from G:4238 which has the following meaning: -

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Now when Christ returns to reward the people of the earth at His second coming, He will judge between the righteous and the unrighteous, with the righteous being given "Life" and the inheritance in the whole earth, while the unrighteous will be dispatched into the Lake of Fire which is the Second death.

Now, Christ, in Matthew 16:27-28 was speaking of a time some 3,000 plus years into the distant future from His first advent and not, as Preterist suggest, a near future event only about 40 years into their future.

Now when Christ state that some standing with Him would not taste death until He comes in the Glory of His Father and His Angels, he was speaking that some who were standing with Him would taste the second Death when He came to judge the people of the earth

Now because they have not realised that Christ was speaking of the Second Death, they make the assumption that he was speaking that some who were standing with Him will not die physically until He came a second time.

One small misstep in our understanding of what is recorded in the scriptures will always lead to bigger errors in our understanding of the Bible.

I believe that I have understood the context of Matthew 16:24-28 and what is being said by Christ in these verses. On the other hand, Preterists because of their contextual error with respect to this passage, force upon themselves even bigger errors in their understand of the end time events.

However, it is up to each of us to consider what the scripture conveys for ourselves and come to the conclusions that we then hold.

Shalom

24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. 25 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

27 For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.

28 Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”
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The above verses are not all in context with each other, that's the way I read them
There are several different things being discussed on v24 to v28

The way I read v28 has to do with how after Christ was resurrected, He was exalted to the right hand of power, given all authority in heaven and earth, in essence He received His kingdom from the Father, and then to show us that He had, Christ pours out the promised Holy Spirit on His people.
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Acts 2
29 “Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, [i]according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne, 31 he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. 32 This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses. 33 Therefore being exalted [j]to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.

34 “For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself:

‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
35 Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

 

[Grailhunter]

Can you prove that?

Easy enough for you to look it up on your own.
Correction 41,000 worldwide.

How many Protestant denominations are there?

Protestantism is a diverse religious tradition that has given rise to a wide variety of denominations and sects.

spiritualculture.org

 

[Scott Downey]

Luke 19, Jesus speaks a parable to tell us He will return to heaven to receive His kingdom from the Father and then return to judge His people and destroy the unbelieving world .

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11 Now as they heard these things, He spoke another parable, because He was near Jerusalem and because they thought the kingdom of God would appear immediately. 12 Therefore He said: “A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and to return. 13 So he called ten of his servants, delivered to them ten [e]minas, and said to them, ‘Do business till I come.’ 14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We will not have this man to reign over us.’

15 “And so it was that when he returned, having received the kingdom, he then commanded these servants, to whom he had given the money, to be called to him, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. 16 Then came the first, saying, ‘Master, your mina has earned ten minas.’ 17 And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant; because you were faithful in a very little, have authority over ten cities.’ 18 And the second came, saying, ‘Master, your mina has earned five minas.’ 19 Likewise he said to him, ‘You also be over five cities.’

20 “Then another came, saying, ‘Master, here is your mina, which I have kept put away in a handkerchief. 21 For I feared you, because you are [f]an austere man. You collect what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.’ 22 And he said to him, ‘Out of your own mouth I will judge you, you wicked servant. You knew that I was an austere man, collecting what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow. 23 Why then did you not put my money in the bank, that at my coming I might have collected it with interest?’

24 “And he said to those who stood by, ‘Take the mina from him, and give it to him who has ten minas.’ 25 (But they said to him, ‘Master, he has ten minas.’) 26 ‘For I say to you, that to everyone who has will be given; and from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 27 But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me.’ ”

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[Scott Downey]

The Son of man receives the kingdom from the Ancient of Days

Daniel 7
13 “I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.

14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed.
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Daniel 7

New King James Version

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Vision of the Four Beasts​

1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel [a]had a dream and visions of his head while on his bed. Then he wrote down the dream, telling [b]the main facts.
2 Daniel spoke, saying, “I saw in my vision by night, and behold, the four winds of heaven were stirring up the Great Sea. 3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, each different from the other. 4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings. I watched till its wings were plucked off; and it was lifted up from the earth and made to stand on two feet like a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
5 “And suddenly another beast, a second, like a bear. It was raised up on one side, and had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. And they said thus to it: ‘Arise, devour much flesh!’
6 “After this I looked, and there was another, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird. The beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it.
7 “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. 8 I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking [c]pompous words.

Vision of the Ancient of Days​

9 “I watched till thrones were [d]put in place,
And the Ancient of Days was seated;
His garment was white as snow,
And the hair of His head was like pure wool.
His throne was a fiery flame,
Its wheels a burning fire;
10 A fiery stream issued
And came forth from before Him.
A thousand thousands ministered to Him;
Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him.
The [e]court was seated,
And the books were opened.
11 “I watched then because of the sound of the [f]pompous words which the horn was speaking; I watched till the beast was slain, and its body destroyed and given to the burning flame. 12 As for the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.

13 “I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed.

 

[Scott Downey]

Even so, we do not yet see all things put under the Son.

Hebrews 2
1 Therefore we must give [a]the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away. 2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just [b]reward, 3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him, 4 God also bearing witness both with signs and wonders, with various miracles, and gifts[c] of the Holy Spirit, according to His own will?

The Son Made Lower than Angels​

5 For He has not put the world to come, of which we speak, in subjection to angels. 6 But one testified in a certain place, saying:

“What is man that You are mindful of him,
Or the son of man that You take care of him?
7 You have made him [d]a little lower than the angels;
You have crowned him with glory and honor,
[e]And set him over the works of Your hands.
8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet.”
For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him. 9 But we see Jesus, who was made [f]a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.