Was Christ at any time, under the dominion of death, did He die? If so, how did he overcome His own death?

[Webers_Home]

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The Watchtower Society-- a.k.a. Jehovah's Witnesses --insist that Jesus'
crucified dead body has never yet been restored to life. It is still deceased
and its remains are squirreled away somewhere on earth in a condition, and
a location, known only to God.

The Society also says Jesus' human form was activated by an angel's donated life
force. When Jesus' human form passed away on the cross, the donated life force
was returned to the angel so it could be reactivated. In other words: Jesus has to
stay dead so the angel can live.

The Watchtower Society's post resurrection appearances were not Jesus.
They were that angel, impersonating Jesus in a fully functioning avatar-- a
materialized body that resembled Jesus in every respect; including his crucifixion
injuries.
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[Scott Downey]

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The Watchtower Society-- a.k.a. Jehovah's Witnesses --insist that Jesus'
crucified dead body has never yet been restored to life. It is still deceased
and its remains are squirreled away somewhere on earth in a condition, and
a location, known only to God.

The Society also says Jesus' human form was activated by an angel's donated life
force. When Jesus' human form passed away on the cross, the donated life force
was returned to the angel so it could be reactivated. In other words: Jesus has to
stay dead so the angel can live.

The Watchtower Society's post resurrection appearances were not Jesus.
They were that angel, impersonating Jesus in a fully functioning avatar-- a
materialized body that resembled Jesus; even his crucifixion injuries.
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How bizarre

 

[Earburner]

Romans 6:9
knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him.

Only after His resurrection did death no longer have dominion over Christ. Who raised Christ? Many scriptures tell us God raised Him from the dead.
Of course, Christ is also God.

Jesus actually did die. HE said he was dead!

Is there a false teaching Christian myth that says Jesus was not actually dead? Yes, there is. Might be one of the reasons HE was to be in the heart of the earth 3 days and nights, with a sealed tomb.

When does the last enemy death get destroyed?
At the return of Christ, at the resurrection, and the new earth and new heavens will have no more death, corruption, decay.

Then this happens in Romans 8

18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of [f]corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. 23 Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body. 24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.

Are you saying that the Lord Jesus Christ was not the Eternal Son of God dwelling in mortal flesh??
Heb. 10[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

 

[Taken]

Was Christ at any time, under the dominion of death, did He die? If so, how did he overcome His own death?​

Jesus Prepared Body was Given, Offered, unto Death for the Life of the World.

Yes, His Prepared Body Died, for Witnesses to See.

Overcome Death?
By the Power of God, who IS IN Him, IS Him…
Ie. Christ.

Heb 10:
[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:


John 10:
[17] Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
[18] No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

1 Cor 1:
[24] But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[rockytopva]

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[Scott Downey]

Are you saying that the Lord Jesus Christ was not the Eternal Son of God dwelling in mortal flesh??
Heb. 10[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Not sure where you are coming from.
Jesus says He was dead.
Do you not believe He was dead?

Revelation 1

12 Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. 14 His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; 15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters; 16 He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength. 17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying [i]to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of [j]Hades and of Death. 19 [k]Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this. 20 The [l]mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: The seven stars are the [m]angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands [n]which you saw are the seven churches.

 

[Scott Downey]

Thing is 'dead' to God is not what some people think of as 'dead'
The dead are still conscious, either in heaven or hell. Before Christ the righteous dead went to Abraham's bosom.

Technically only the body is dead, in that sense.
Luke 20

The Sadducees: What About the Resurrection?​

27 Then some of the Sadducees, who deny that there is a resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, 28 saying: “Teacher, Moses wrote to us that if a man’s brother dies, having a wife, and he dies without children, his brother should take his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. 29 Now there were seven brothers. And the first took a wife, and died without children. 30 And the second [g]took her as wife, and he died childless. 31 Then the third took her, and in like manner the seven [h]also; and they left no children, and died. 32 Last of all the woman died also. 33 Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife does she become? For all seven had her as wife.”

34 Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; 36 nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. 37 But even Moses showed in the burning bush passage that the dead are raised, when he called the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ 38 For He is not the God of the dead but of the living, for all live to Him.”

39 Then some of the scribes answered and said, “Teacher, You have spoken well.” 40 But after that they dared not question Him anymore.

 

[PS95]

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Hi mod!
I don't see where that occurred here? What I saw was a member posted only factual info about JW teachings. I saw no one insinuate anything either. All that I saw was some of their own teachings. I can attest to them being accurate. Would you like documentation?
The JW member came to this thread to argue against the deity of Christ. See post 3 please. I though that was against the rules unless you change tag to "other faith". That's what other mods say. And here we see the other members being disciplined- What gives?

 

[rockytopva]

Hi mod!
I don't see where that occurred here? What I saw was a member posted only factual info about JW teachings. I saw no one insinuate anything either. All that I saw was some of their own teachings. I can attest to them being accurate. Would you like documentation?
The JW member came to this thread to argue against the deity of Christ. See post 3 please. I though that was against the rules unless you change tag to "other faith". That's what other mods say. And here we see the other members being disciplined- What gives?

Nobody was officially warned over this. We have occasions where people want to call out the rest of us as heretics for not going along with their unique teachings. Sometimes I put the old Mod Hat on before it gets to that point.

 

[rockytopva]

Nobody was officially warned over this. We have occasions where people want to call out the rest of us as heretics for not going along with their unique teachings. Sometimes I put the old Mod Hat on before it gets to that point.

I see the posts in question were removed. So... Carry on!

 

[PS95]

I see the posts in question were removed. So... Carry on!

Nope- they are all still there. Post 13, 17, 18 and 20

I don't care if the posts are there or not to be honest. That's not the point. -
These people repeatedly continue to break the rules and nothing changes. they make a joke of mods daily. Most times no one even bothers to report since nothing happens to them.
Jws constantly bash Christians saying all sorts of things... I don't report it & most don't. I'm used to it. Why should we report? After all, their tag says, Christian.. so they can keep posting to us and interrupting threads no matter if reported or not.
I don't understand how this forum defines Christian?
Do they have to believe that - (JWs DO NOT)
Jesus' blood shed is the only payment for our sins?

Do they have to believe in Jesus' bodily resurrection?
what?

 

[rockytopva]

Nope- they are all still there. Post 13, 17, 18 and 20

I don't care if the posts are there or not to be honest. That's not the point. -
These people repeatedly continue to break the rules and nothing changes. they make a joke of mods daily. Most times no one even bothers to report since nothing happens to them.
Jws constantly bash Christians saying all sorts of things... I don't report it & most don't. I'm used to it. Why should we report? After all, their tag says, Christian.. so they can keep posting to us and interrupting threads no matter if reported or not.
I don't understand how this forum defines Christian?
Do they have to believe that -
Jesus' blood shed is the only payment for our sins?

Do they have to believe in Jesus' bodily resurrection?
what?

All of the posts might not have been dealt with... But the poster was. If we were to deal with everything objectable we wouldn't have anyone here to talk about it!

 

[Scott Downey]

All of the posts might not have been dealt with... But the poster was. If we were to deal with everything objectable we wouldn't have anyone here to talk about it!

Even when the posts are truth, Jesus caused offence to some, and He said 'Blessed is he who takes no offense at Me'.

 

[quietthinker]

Was Christ at any time, under the dominion of death, did He die? If so, how did he overcome His own death?​

John 10:17-18
'The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”