Is it possible to lose salvation?

[LoveYeshua]

Here you go, for the 2nd time.

...>"repent for the kingdom of Heaven, is at hand'"""

See that?
That is John The Baptist's "gospel".....and you find it in Acts 2.

You wont find it, in Paul's Gospel.

But Jesus told them, “I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns as well, because that is why I was sent.” luke 4:43

yes repentance and The Kingdom of Heaven ARE Jesus's core messages;

• Matthew 4:17 - "From that time on, Jesus began to preach, 'Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.'"
• Matthew 9:13 - "But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
• Matthew 11:20-21 - "Then Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles were performed, because they did not repent. 'Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.'"
• Mark 1:14-15 - "After John was arrested, Jesus went to Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. 'The time has come,' He said. 'The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!'"
• Luke 5:32 - "I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
• Luke 13:3 - "I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish."
• Luke 13:5 - "I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish."
• Luke 15:7 - "I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent."
• Luke 24:46-47 - "He told them, 'This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.'"
• see also MARK 13-3:13

 

[LoveYeshua]

@Behold

Behold, Here is a list of the parables Jesus told that focus on these two themes: Repentance and The Kingdom of Heaven. All references are from the New King James Version (NKJV).

Parables About Repentance​

These parables show God’s mercy and the call for sinners to turn back and change their ways.

1. The Lost Sheep
   Luke 15:3–7; Matthew 18:12–14

Jesus tells of a shepherd who leaves 99 sheep to find the one that is lost.
“There will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.” (Luke 15:7)

1. The Lost Coin
   Luke 15:8–10

A woman searches carefully for one lost coin until she finds it.
“There is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” (Luke 15:10)

1. The Prodigal Son (Lost Son)
   Luke 15:11–32

A son wastes his inheritance but returns in repentance. The father welcomes him back with love and celebration.
The parable shows God’s heart toward the repentant.

1. The Two Sons
   Matthew 21:28–32

One son says “no” but later obeys. The other says “yes” but disobeys.
Jesus uses it to show that sinners who repent and do God's will are accepted before the religious who only speak well but don’t obey.

1. The Pharisee and the Tax Collector
   Luke 18:9–14

A proud Pharisee compares himself to others, while the tax collector humbly says, “God, be merciful to me a sinner.”
Jesus said the humble one went home justified.

Parables About the Kingdom of Heaven​

These parables describe what the Kingdom is like, who will enter, and how it works. Most are found in Matthew, where Jesus often starts with “The kingdom of heaven is like...”.

1. The Sower and the Soils
   Matthew 13:3–23

The seed (God’s word) falls on different types of soil (hearts). Only good soil bears fruit.
This teaches how the Kingdom grows in those who receive the word with understanding and perseverance.

1. The Wheat and the Tares (Weeds)
   Matthew 13:24–30, 36–43

Good and bad grow together until the harvest.
At the end, the righteous will shine, and the wicked will be removed.

1. The Mustard Seed
   Matthew 13:31–32

The Kingdom starts small but grows large, like a mustard seed becoming a big tree.

1. The Leaven
   Matthew 13:33

A little yeast spreads through the dough.
God’s Kingdom may seem small but works powerfully and spreads.

1. The Hidden Treasure
   Matthew 13:44

A man finds treasure in a field and sells all he has to buy the field.
The Kingdom is worth everything.

1. The Pearl of Great Price
   Matthew 13:45–46

A merchant finds one precious pearl and sells all to buy it.
The Kingdom is of highest value.

1. The Dragnet
   Matthew 13:47–50

A net gathers all kinds of fish, and later the good are kept, the bad thrown away.
At the end, angels will separate the wicked from the just.

1. The Ten Virgins
   Matthew 25:1–13

Five wise and five foolish virgins wait for the bridegroom. The foolish are not ready and are shut out.
The parable teaches to be ready for the coming of the Kingdom.

1. The Talents
   Matthew 25:14–30

Servants are given talents (money) to manage while their master is away.
Those who are faithful are rewarded; the lazy one is cast out.
This shows accountability in the Kingdom.

1. The Wedding Feast
   Matthew 22:1–14

Many are invited to the wedding, but only those who come properly prepared are welcomed.
“Many are called, but few are chosen.”

1. The Growing Seed
   Mark 4:26–29

A man sows seed, and it grows by itself.
The Kingdom grows by God's power even if man doesn’t see how.

Yes Behold, repentance and The kingdom of Heaven were indeed the core message of Jesus as shown.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I'll be honest...I have no idea what eternal life is/means conceptually.
But if you offer me a drink and smiling face I know it alright lol
the rest gets f***ked up by the mind/judgements

Reported

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

yes repentance and The Kingdom of Heaven ARE Jesus's core messages;

Here is a list of the parables Jesus told that focus on these two themes: Repentance and The Kingdom of Heaven.

Excellent posts! Very, very good!

 

[bro.tan]

Good luck. I will pray for you. Adam and Eve tried to cover their nakedness with fig leaves. Cain tried to give God the fruit of his labor. God rejected both

He covered Adam and Eve with animal sacrifice. Abel offered his fatted lamb. In sacrifice. God tried to show them the way to salvation was not through works but an innocent had to die. Thus innocent would be the seed of Eve.

The law did the same. Telling you you must be perfect or you’re cursed. And for those who broke the law again showing animals had to die for atonement again representing the seed of Eve and Abraham. Or christ

You want to give him your fig leaves and fruit if your labor feel free

I will allow God to save me. Knowing I have nothing to offer

Paul says in (Rom. 7:7,12) (v.7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET.

Paul asked a question, is the law sin? He said God forbid, he said the only way that he knew what sin was, was by the law.

(v.12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Why in the world would a Christian want to do away with something that God said is holy.

Paul says in (Rom. 4:15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. If there is no law there is no sin.

 

[bro.tan]

A Christian has been rendered eternally forgiven, and born again, not based on their behavior, but based on THe Cross of Christ.

So, this means that the SIN that was previously separating God and Sinner......has been eternally dealt with by The Cross of Christ.

God saves believers when they are "ungodly" and "yet sinners"....and this is their "Gift of Eternal Life""", that is never changed, altered, or denied, by behavior that happens later.

Now Paul said in (Rom. 3:23-25) (v.23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (v.24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: (v.25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God.

So the bible tells you to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2 :36-38). And by doing so you come up under his precious blood and then you are saved from your sins that are past, not present or future sins but for sins that are past.

So by coming under the blood of Jesus being baptize, you are saved from your past sins. And if you are saved now, it is on a day to day basis. Because for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Romans 23:3), and if you continue to live you will sin again.

Now we must believe (have faith) Jesus died for us (Hebrews 10:4,9-10) 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 9 then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

This doesn't mean we don't have to obey God's moral laws of conduct. That would be like a man getting paroled from prison and then ignoring the same laws that sent him to prison in the first place. Jesus only died once, so if we willingly break God's law, after accepting Jesus, our reward will be eternal damnation

It is the willful sinning that you need to put in check. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. (Hebrew 10: 26, 27)

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Paul says in (Rom. 7:7,12) (v.7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET.

Paul asked a question, is the law sin? He said God forbid, he said the only way that he knew what sin was, was by the law.

(v.12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Why in the world would a Christian want to do away with something that God said is holy.

Paul says in (Rom. 4:15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. If there is no law there is no sin.

Are you trying to get people to live under the Law of Moses? The Levitical Law?

We would have to do what the Galatians did and turn away from Jesus and go back to living under the law

 

[Behold]

true because Paul has His Own gospel that is His own and Not the Gospel of Christ cant you see?,

Paul's Gospel is specific.
It only deals with "the time of the gentiles".
Jesus, on earth......didn't deal with gentiles.

Why do you put Paul before Christ?

Jesus is Lord.

Paul is the "teacher" of NT Church Doctrine.

From John 21:15-17
After He rose from the dead, Jesus spoke to Peter

The MaryCult is built on Peter and Mary.

Christianity, is Built on The Cross of Christ and Paul's Doctrine for the "body of Christ"

 

[David Lamb]

true because Paul has His Own gospel that is His own and Not the Gospel of Christ cant you see?,

Paul didn't have his own gospel. He preached the gospel of Christ:

“For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of His Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers,” (Ro 1:9 NKJV)

“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.” (Ro 1:16 NKJV)

“in mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God, so that from Jerusalem and round about to Illyricum I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.” (Ro 15:19 NKJV)

“But I know that when I come to you, I shall come in the fullness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ.” (Ro 15:29 NKJV)

“If others are partakers of [this] right over you, are we not even more? Nevertheless we have not used this right, but endure all things lest we hinder the gospel of Christ.” (1Co 9:12 NKJV)

“What is my reward then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the gospel of Christ without charge, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel.” (1Co 9:18 NKJV)

“For we are not overextending ourselves (as though [our authority] did not extend to you), for it was to you that we came with the gospel of Christ;” (2Co 10:14 NKJV)

“and sent Timothy, our brother and minister of God, and our fellow laborer in the gospel of Christ, to establish you and encourage you concerning your faith,” (1Th 3:2 NKJV)

 

[Behold]

Paul didn't have his own gospel.

Paul states that "The Gospel i RECEIVED, i didnt receive from man".....

And Paul states that The Gospel He preaches, is "MY Gospel"........He said this 3x.

And to prove it....>He said that any other Gospel, other then His, is false...and he used the word "accursed"...... Galatians 1:8

So, what does "another gospel" sound like?

Here is one...... "Water Baptism has to be a part of becoming a Christian".

Thats a "false Gospel", as Paul does not Teach or Preach that one.
There is no water baptism in Paul's Gospel.

 

[David Lamb]

Paul's Gospel is specific.
It only deals with "the time of the gentiles".
Jesus, on earth......didn't deal with gentiles.

Jesus certainly did deal with gentiles. The Roman centurion who had a servant who was ill, the Canaanite woman with a demon-possessed daughter, the Samaritans He had dealings with, who at most were "half-Jews."

 

[Behold]

Jesus certainly did deal with gentiles. The Roman centurion who had a servant who was ill, the Canaanite woman with a demon-possessed daughter, the Samaritans He had dealings with, who at most were "half-Jews."

Jesus didn't come for the Gentiles......He only came for the "house of Israel"..

New International Version
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

New Living Translation
Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”

English Standard Version
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Berean Standard Bible
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Berean Literal Bible
And answering He said, "I was sent only to those being lost sheep of the house of Israel."

King James Bible
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

New King James Version
But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
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Now, because Jesus is merciful......He would heal anyone during His minisry to the JEWS..........Gentile or Jew.

 

[David Lamb]

Jesus didn't come for the Gentiles......He only came for the "house of Israel"..

New International Version
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

New Living Translation
Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”

English Standard Version
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Berean Standard Bible
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Berean Literal Bible
And answering He said, "I was sent only to those being lost sheep of the house of Israel."

King James Bible
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

New King James Version
But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
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Now, because Jesus is merciful......He would heal anyone during His minisry to the JEWS..........Gentile or Jew.

True, His main earthly ministry was to the Jews. Yet He did say:

“"And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.” (Joh 10:16 NKJV)

 

[Behold]

“"And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring,

Yes.

The "other Sheep" are these..

"Gentiles".......

And once Jesus died on The Cross......the "body of Christ", the Church= began........and that is the "other Sheep"

One Apostle was called to the Gentiles....."the other sheep"......and He is Paul........and His Gospel is only for the "time of the gentiles"....who are the "other sheep" and Paul is the "apostle to the Gentiles".

So, this is why Paul is the TEACHER of New Testament Doctrine....regarding the "other sheep".....who are Born again Christians.......mostly gentiles.

 

[David Lamb]

Paul states that "The Gospel i RECEIVED, i didnt receive from man".....

And Paul states that The Gospel He preaches, is "MY Gospel"........He said this 3x.

And to prove it....>He said that any other Gospel, other then His, is false...and he used the word "accursed"...... Galatians 1:8

So, what does "another gospel" sound like?

Here is one...... "Water Baptism has to be a part of becoming a Christian".

Thats a "false Gospel", as Paul does not Teach or Preach that one.
There is no water baptism in Paul's Gospel.

But in my post I quoted 8 verses where Paul talks of the gospel of Christ. As for baptism, we read in Acts 16 of Paul baptizing Lydia and her believing household, and later in the chapter, the Philippian jailer and his believing household. Besides, baptism was not an essential part of the gospel preached by others apart from Paul. Jesus said:

“"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (Joh 3:16-18 NKJV)

No mention there of baptism. Water baptism is a sign that one has become a Christian; it doesn't make a non-Christian into a Christian.

So baptism is not a difference between the gospel as preached by Paul, and that preached by Jesus.

 

[David Lamb]

Yes.

The "other Sheep" are these..

"Gentiles".......

And once Jesus died on The Cross......the "body of Christ", the Church= began........and that is the "other Sheep"

One Apostle was called to the Gentiles....."the other sheep"......and He is Paul........and His Gospel is only for the "time of the gentiles"....who are the "other sheep" and Paul is the "apostle to the Gentiles".

So, this is why Paul is the TEACHER of New Testament Doctrine....regarding the "other sheep".....who are Born again Christians.......mostly gentiles.

Yes, I agree - the "other sheep" are Gentiles. All the apostles were teachers of New Testament doctrine. Peter also preached to Gentiles, although the main focus of his ministry was to Jews.

 

[Behold]

But in my post I quoted 8 verses where Paul talks of the gospel of Christ. As for baptism, we read in Acts 16 of Paul baptizing Lydia and her believing household, and later in the chapter,

Paul preaches "Christ Crucified".....or "The Preaching OF... The Cross of Christ".

That is the Gospel of Christ.........as this is defining Jesus as God's eternal Blood and Death "Atonement" for the sin of the world....John 3:16......= applied to one believer at a time.

Jesus was on earth, in Ministry, to the JEWS.....and He had not died on the Cross.......so, the Gospel of "the preaching of the Cross'.....was not available to him.......
It became available after Jesus died on the Cross, and Paul was sent specifically to bring the Gospel of "justification by faith"......to the world... and this is for a specific amount of time......."the Time of the Gentiles".
So, there is a "GOSPEL" for this "time"...and its Paul's......as Paul is the "Apostle TO......the Gentiles".

 

[Behold]

Yes, I agree - the "other sheep" are Gentiles. All the apostles were teachers of New Testament doctrine. Peter also preached to Gentiles, although the main focus of his ministry was to Jews.

Paul is the "Church Doctrine" teacher.

He taught the other 11 , when He met them in Acts 15.

 

[David Lamb]

Paul preaches "Christ Crucified".....or "The Preaching OF... The Cross of Christ".

That is the Gospel of Christ.........as this is defining Jesus as God's eternal Blood and Death "Atonement" for the sin of the world....John 3:16......= applied to one believer at a time.

Jesus was on earth, in Ministry, to the JEWS.....and He had not died on the Cross.......so, the Gospel of "the preaching of the Cross'.....was not available to him.......
It became available after Jesus died on the Cross, and Paul was sent specifically to bring the Gospel of "justification by faith"......to the world... and this is for a specific amount of time......."the Time of the Gentiles".
So, there is a "GOSPEL" for this "time"...and its Paul's......as Paul is the "Apostle TO......the Gentiles".

Jesus knew that He was going to be put to death. The knowledge was available to Him. He did tell His disciples about His death and resurrection before they happened. Yet even His disciples did not understand until after the resurrection, so I imagine that is the reason Jesus didn't mention His death and resurrection in His own preaching.

 

[Behold]

Jesus knew that He was going to be put to death. The knowledge was available to Him.

Knowing about Jesus and The Cross does not save you.

So, Jesus knew He was going to The Cross, but he never told the Jews.....He only told the Apostles., at the end of His ministry to the Jews.

See, until Jesus has shed His Blood and died for your sins......you can't be saved.......So, that was why He was not teaching the Jews, about His later Sacrifice.
Also, you can't be saved unless you can receive the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit was not given to this EARTH, until Jesus was back in Heaven.

So, there was NO CROSS and NO HOLY Spirit, offered....when Jesus was ministering to the JEWS......'House of Israel".

New International Version
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

New Living Translation
Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”

English Standard Version
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Berean Standard Bible
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Berean Literal Bible
And answering He said, "I was sent only to those being lost sheep of the house of Israel."

King James Bible
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

New King James Version
But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”