Big Boy Johnson
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I pay attention to God's Word, not the Scofield commentaries because I'm not one of those Scofield bible guys like you are.
And why are you so racist towards the Jews?
Do you hate Jesus because He is a Jew?
Anyone accusing you of “Replacement Theology” is defending the spirit of Antichrist.
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I pay attention to God's Word, not the Scofield commentaries because I'm not one of those Scofield bible guys like you are.
And why are you so racist towards the Jews?
Do you hate Jesus because He is a Jew?
Oh, you’re back with the pseudo-genetic apologetics again?
Let’s break it down for the reader, since you're trying to wrap spiritual truth in secular science like a Pharisee with a DNA test.
“Some Ashkenazis have Semitic DNA.”
Great — so do Arabs, Palestinians, Aramaic-speaking Christians, and half the Middle East. Are they all "chosen" too?
“Cohen Modal Haplotype proves priestly lineage.”
That’s a laugh. The CMH is a Y-chromosome marker found in plenty of non-Jewish Semitic populations as well.
It’s not a divine passport — it’s a genetic coincidence that proves nothing theologically.
There is no verse in the New Testament that says,
"Whosoever hath the proper haplotype shall inherit the Kingdom of God."
“Even if they weren't related to Abraham, it still wouldn't support the Khazar theory.”
That’s rich — you bring up DNA and ancestral connection to Abraham and Moses… then admit it doesn’t even matter.
So what’s your point?
You just spent a paragraph trying to sanctify a secular regime with genetic mysticism — as if that replaces faith in Christ.
Let’s go back to the Word of God:
"They are not all Israel who are of Israel... that is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise." — Romans 9:6–8
Your argument boils down to this:
“Look at this DNA strand. Worship it.”
That’s not Christianity. That’s ethnic idolatry wrapped in Scofield footnotes and pseudo-rabbinic folklore.
Here’s the truth:
The covenant is in Christ alone.
Not in Y-chromosomes, not in surnames, and not in a secular state founded in 1948.
The real priesthood is now spiritual, not genealogical (1 Peter 2:9).
The real temple is the Body of Christ, not a rebuilt structure in Jerusalem.
So no — I’m not impressed with your haplotype.
I’ll stick with the Gospel.
And if you’re still trusting your salvation, your land rights, or your “chosen” status on a strand of DNA or a surname?
You’re not preaching Jesus.
You’re preaching genetic Gnosticism.
Behold
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I dont personally believe you'll ever understand why 144,000 JEWS (from Every Tribe of ISRAEL) will be preaching in The Tribulaiton, as you have it in your deceived mind that They arn't really, Jews.
= "Crazy".
So, so much for your infinate deception... @The Gospel of Christ
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Replacement Theology, is extremely Antisemetic. (Jew/Israel HATRED). = False Theology.
Its a doctrine of devils......Hebrews 13:9 and Hitler used "Replacement Theology"....... as a centerpiece of His Anti-Jewish propaganda, and its sad to see the same being taught on a "christian" forum......but as we know, the Devil never sleeps.
Now....Here is more about the NAZI propaganda that is utterly tied to "Replacement Theology".
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The "Nazi Bible" refers to a revised version of the New Testament produced by the "Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Church Life".
This version, titled Die Botschaft Gottes ("The Message of God"), omitted the Old Testament and aimed to remove Jewish elements from the New Testament, portraying Jesus as an Aryan rather than Jewish figure..
See that Reader?
That is "Replacment Theology".......being Taught on this forum, by @The Gospel of Christ.. using a slightly different explanation....but its all the same HATRED for the Jew/Israel.
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Wick Stick
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This is all pretty interesting. DNA stuff usually is.
But I don't find it relevant to theology. The New Testament defines Abraham's children as being those who believe like Abraham, and are baptized. A true Father of Nations.
Wick Stick
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He's trolling you. And perhaps making a point by accusing you of all the same things you're accusing others of.
Ah, there it is again — the passive-aggressive deflection, the smug insinuation, and zero actual scripture to defend your position.
You claim you’re not a “Scofield Bible guy,”
but you parrot every one of his doctrines like you’ve got the footnotes tattooed on your spine.
And let’s be honest:
You haven’t addressed a single verse I’ve posted.
You haven’t articulated any real theological position.
All you do is toss around tired accusations like “racist” and “Replacement Theology”
— which aren’t found anywhere in the Bible, by the way.
So here’s a question for you —
Do you actually believe the covenant of God is fulfilled in Christ — or not?
Because if you do, then modern ethnic claims to divine land rights are void.
And if you don’t, then you’re preaching another gospel — one that denies the cross.
And please — spare me the “Jesus was a Jew” guilt trip.
No one’s denying that.
But Jesus being born a Jew doesn’t mean the unbelieving descendants of Pharisees are the heirs of the promise.
The Church is.
"If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” — Galatians 3:29
You want to keep being cute, sidestepping the Word of God, and hiding behind innuendo?
Fine. But don’t pretend you’re “paying attention to God’s Word” while ignoring verse after verse after verse that exposes your entire framework as Scofieldian fiction.
That's a whole separate theological discussion. My statement was directed at the OP for his faulty support of the Khazarian theory.
You keep repeating “Replacement Theology” like it’s some kind of biblical category — it’s not.
It’s a Zionist talking point, invented to silence anyone who actually believes the covenant was fulfilled in Christ.
You scream “doctrine of devils,” yet you preach that the promises of God belong to a people who reject the Son —
That’s the doctrine of devils.
That’s the lie of Antichrist.
Let’s deal with your unhinged obsession with calling this Nazi theology.
You want to tie Galatians 3:29 to Mein Kampf?
That’s satanic gaslighting.
The Nazis didn’t preach the Church as the Israel of God — they rewrote the Bible to erase the Jews and Jesus.
I preach Jesus as Messiah. I preach salvation for both Jew and Gentile through faith in Him alone.
That’s called the Gospel.
The true Church doesn’t erase Israel — it becomes it, through the blood of Christ.
You brought up the 144,000?
Read it again — Revelation 7 never says they are modern Israelis or citizens of a Rothschild state.
It says they are sealed by God — not by the Knesset, not by DNA tests, not by surnames.
If you think "Israel" still means "those born of the flesh," you're in direct contradiction with Paul:
“They are not all Israel who are of Israel... It is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise who are counted as the seed.” — Romans 9:6–8
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.” — Galatians 3:29
And Hebrews 13:9? You weaponize it out of context while ignoring the entire New Covenant it’s built on.
The truth is this:
There is no promise of God that bypasses Christ.
There is no Israel apart from the Body of Christ.
And there is no Gospel in your Scofield theology — just the delusion of ethnic privilege dressed up as prophecy.
You think you’re defending God’s people.
But you’re defending a system that denies His Son, hates His Church, and preaches another gospel.
Let them be accursed. — Galatians 1:9
Big Boy Johnson
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It's obvious that the Lord brought the nation of Israel back to being a nation (as was foretold in the OT) and has protected Israel ever since so when Jesus returns He will sett foot in Israel and set up His Kingdom and rule from Israel as the scripture tells us.
The devil hates the Jews and has been trying to destroy them since the times of Abraham so that isn't going to change anytime soon.
None of this of course means Jews don't have to accept Jesus and get born again to go to Heaven because they do. But, it's interesting to note that more Jews have come to the Lord in the past 125 years than the centuries since the Lord went to the Cross
I'm not like you, I don't follow the Scofield Bible guy
It's weird that a Scofield Bible guy such as yourself would be so racistt and hateful towards the Jews.
Don't you think Jews can get born again too?
Or do you think the Lord hates the Jews and will not allow them to get saved?
The devil hates the Jews and has been trying to destroy them since the times of Abraham so that isn't going to change anytime soon.
None of this of course means Jews don't have to accept Jesus and get born again to go to Heaven because they do. But, it's interesting to note that more Jews have come to the Lord in the past 125 years than the centuries since the Lord went to the Cross
I'm not like you, I don't follow the Scofield Bible guy
It's weird that a Scofield Bible guy such as yourself would be so racistt and hateful towards the Jews.
Don't you think Jews can get born again too?
Or do you think the Lord hates the Jews and will not allow them to get saved?
Big Boy Johnson
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Is the Lord calling all Christians to move to Israel and kick the Jews out and take over their nation?
Actually, it’s not a “separate theological discussion” — it’s the whole foundation of the conversation.
Because if modern Zionism is built on the claim of ethnic inheritance, then whether or not that ethnicity traces back to biblical Israel matters — especially when that claim is used to override the Gospel.
And regarding the Khazar theory?
I didn’t invent it.
mo Sand — an Israeli historian and professor — wrote “The Invention of the Jewish People”, where he explicitly affirms that the majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of Khazar converts, not ancient Israelites.And he’s not alone.
Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion himself referenced the Khazars.
So did Arthur Koestler — in “The Thirteenth Tribe” — another Jew, not a “Nazi” or “Replacement Theologian.”
So when modern Zionists themselves say it — it’s not a "conspiracy theory".
It’s a historical fact that undermines the entire ethnic claim to divine inheritance.
And that’s precisely why the New Testament makes it clear:
The true children of Abraham are not defined by bloodline or tribe — but by faith in Christ (Galatians 3:7, 3:29).
That’s not a “side topic.”
That’s the Gospel.
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You keep claiming you’re “not a Scofield guy,” yet every single word you type drips with his theology.
“Israel was brought back in 1948”
“Jesus will set up His kingdom in Tel Aviv”
“Ethnic Jews have a special prophetic role apart from Christ”
That’s not New Testament doctrine.
That’s Scofield 101 — funded by Oxford Press and baptized in Zionist propaganda.
And once again — you haven’t quoted a single verse.
You just keep throwing out emotional slogans and then accuse others of “racism” when they preach the actual Gospel.
Let’s set the record straight:
Yes — Jews can be born again.
In fact, they must be born again.
Just like Gentiles, they must come through the only door, who is Christ (John 14:6).
There is no other covenant, no dual track, no national pass.
As for the claim that 1948 was “foretold in the OT”?
Where? Chapter and verse.
Because I can quote Romans 9:6–8, Galatians 3:7, 3:29, Ephesians 2:11–22, Philippians 3:3, Revelation 2:9 —
All of which say the true Israel is those in Christ — not those with a passport and a bloodline.
The idea that God restored a nation of Christ-rejecters to fulfill prophecy — apart from repentance, apart from Jesus — is absolute heresy.
The New Testament says Jesus is the fulfillment. Not Herzl. Not Ben-Gurion. Not Netanyahu.
You keep talking about Satan hating the Jews —
but what Satan really hates is the Gospel,
and the true Israel of God,
which is the Body of Christ.
And what you're preaching?
Isn't Gospel.
It's a counterfeit built on race, nationalism, and a century-old con job published by Oxford and swallowed whole by an entire generation of brainwashed American evangelicals.
Wow. So now you think “becoming Israel” means packing a suitcase and kicking people out of the Middle East?
That says everything.
You’ve been so thoroughly brainwashed by Zionist propaganda and Scofield fiction that you literally think Israel is a piece of dirt, not a spiritual identity in Christ.
“My Kingdom is not of this world.” — Jesus (John 18:36)
“The Jerusalem that now is… is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.” — Galatians 4:25–26
“You have come to Mount Zion… the heavenly Jerusalem… the church of the firstborn.” — Hebrews 12:22–23
Israel is not a passport.
It's not dirt.
Not a zip code.
Not a flag.
It’s a people — defined by their faith in Christ (Romans 9:6–8, Galatians 3:29).
The true Israel isn't trying to “kick anyone out of the land” —
The true Israel is seated with Christ in heavenly places (Ephesians 2:6),
preaching repentance to all nations,
including Jews, who must be saved the same way as everyone else:
through the blood of Jesus.
So no — we’re not moving to Tel Aviv.
We’re not storming the Knesset.
We’re proclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom,
and that Kingdom is not of this world.
But I get it —
you can’t grasp that
because you're still clinging to a dead covenant, a patch of soil, and a theology built on footnotes instead of faith.
Big Boy Johnson
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You keep saying you're “not a Scofield guy,” but you preach every word of his theology like it's the Gospel itself.
1948 = fulfillment of prophecy
Ethnic Jews = still the chosen people
Jesus returns to rule from geopolitical Israel
Church and Israel = two separate plans of God
That’s Scofield. Line by line.
You can deny the name all you want — but the doctrine screams his fingerprints.
You say you don’t follow Scofield?
Then why do you parrot him?
Why does your theology read like the commentary notes in his Zionist-sponsored Bible?
You won’t quote scripture.
You dodge Romans 9. You ignore Galatians 3. You deflect from Ephesians 2.
Instead, you just throw around words like “racist” and “Replacement Theology” —
because you don’t have the courage to face the Word of God itself.
You don’t follow the Bible.
You follow a man who reprogrammed a generation to believe God broke His own covenant — and now hands out blessings based on bloodlines.
That’s not the Gospel.
That’s heresy.
Behold
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Replacement Theology is False Christian Anti-Semitism.
Hebrews 13:9 defines it as a "Doctrine of Devils".......its Man-Man theology......created by a HATER of "The Jew".
Notice something reader..
This False Doctrine states that the Born Again Christians, who are mostly GENTILES......have "replaced the Jew" as God's Original OT Chosen.
Look now closely.
When the Trib starts..... you have 144,000 JEWS, "from every Tribe of ISRAEL"..
Here are the 12 Tribes
- Reuben: The oldest son of Jacob.
- Simeon: The second son of Jacob.
- Levi: The third son of Jacob, who became the priestly tribe.
- Judah: The fourth son of Jacob, who is known for his leadership and the lineage of kings.
- Dan: The fifth son of Jacob.
- Naphtali: The sixth son of Jacob.
- Gad: The seventh son of Jacob, whose name means "fortune" or "good luck".
- Asher: The eighth son of Jacob, whose name means "happy" or "blessed".
- Issachar: The ninth son of Jacob.
- Zebulun: The tenth son of Jacob.
- Joseph: The eleventh son of Jacob, whose two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, became tribes.
- Benjamin: The twelfth son of Jacob
So, Demonic = Replacement Theory, is literally teaching that "Saved Gentiles" are the 144,000 JEWS from Every Tribe of Israel.
If false theology can get any Crazier, then im not certain ive read it yet.
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You keep shrieking “Replacement Theology” like it’s a biblical doctrine. It’s not.
It’s a term made up by men who can’t handle the fact that the New Covenant fulfilled the Old, and that the inheritance now belongs to those in Christ — not those with a tribal genealogy.
You quote Hebrews 13:9 completely out of context —
It says:
“Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings…”
Exactly what you’re doing — being carried away by the strange teaching that modern unbelieving Jews (and 8th century converts) still possess covenantal favor apart from Jesus Christ.
That’s not Christianity.
That’s Zionism wearing a Jesus mask.
Now let’s rip your 144,000 fantasy apart:
You claim:
"Saved Gentiles can't be the 144,000 JEWS from every tribe of Israel."
Wrong.
Revelation is symbolic — it’s apocalyptic literature.
The number 144,000 = 12 tribes × 12 apostles × 1,000 (completeness, fullness)
It represents the whole redeemed people of God, sealed and protected —
Just like the 12 tribes in James 1:1 are a symbolic reference to the Church scattered in exile.
And let’s be honest:
If you actually believe the 10 northern tribes still exist in clean, traceable, genetic lines after 2,700 years of dispersion, you're not reading the Bible — you're reading science fiction.
Here’s what Scripture actually says:
"They are not all Israel who are descended from Israel." — Romans 9:6
"It is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise." — Romans 9:8
"If you belong to Christ, you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise." — Galatians 3:29
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile... for you are all one in Christ Jesus." — Galatians 3:28
You call this theology “crazy”?
No — what’s crazy is building your entire eschatology on a Scofield footnote,
insisting the promises of God still belong to people who reject His Son,
and calling it “faithful doctrine.”
What’s crazy is calling the Body of Christ a "heresy".
You don’t just misunderstand prophecy —
You deny the very nature of the New Covenant.
Let me leave the lurkers with this:
If you believe God still favors a people apart from Christ,
you are preaching another gospel.
Let him be accursed. — Galatians 1:8
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Big Boy Johnson
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Well good luck with all that Scofield Bible guy stuff.
And NO, I don't want to buy one of your "I'm a Scofield Bible guy" t-shirts either
Behold
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Demonic = """""Replacement Theology"" is literally teaching that "Saved Gentiles" are the 144,000 JEWS from Every OLD TESTAMENT Tribe of Israel, as found in the Tribulation.
If false ANTISEMETISM theology can get any Crazier, then im not aware of it. @The Gospel of Christ
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You keep screaming “Replacement Theology” like it’s a demon’s name, but what you’re really defending is the idea that Jesus came, died, rose again, and somehow… still wasn’t enough. He failed.
You honestly believe that a group of genetically unverifiable, unbelieving "ethnic descendants"—who reject the very Messiah—are going to fulfill God's end-time mission instead of His Church?
That’s not theology. That’s Antichrist heresy and delusion.
You say:
“Saved Gentiles can’t be the 144,000 Jews from every tribe of Israel.”
Here’s the problem:
1. You can’t name those 12 tribes.
They were scattered, absorbed, and lost long before Christ walked the earth.
If modern Israel can't even identify them, then your fantasy collapses under its own weight.
2. You don’t understand Revelation.
144,000 is symbolic, not a census.
It’s 12 (tribes) × 12 (apostles) × 1,000 (completeness).
It represents the fullness of the redeemed, sealed and sent by God—not a future Israeli draft.
3. You ignore the Gospel itself:
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.” — Galatians 3:29
“They are not all Israel who are descended from Israel.” — Romans 9:6
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” — Galatians 3:28
So no, I’m not going to join your Scofield cosplay where the Church is sidelined, Christ is postponed, and Tel Aviv is the center of God’s plan.
That’s not Christianity.
That’s Zionist fan fiction wrapped in Fox News theology.
And when you start throwing memes around like a gender-confused Marxist from San Francisco who thinks he’s Cleopatra, don’t be surprised when someone calls it what it is:
Blasphemy.
Insanity.
And heresy wrapped in a yarmulke.
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