We need to keep in mind that scripture uses more than one allegory to portray and speak to different aspects of the kingdom of God. One new man is one allegory, bride/wife is another allegory, and wedding guests is still another allegory, and bridesmaids (ten virgins) is yet another.. I think the Lord uses wedding guests and bridesmaids to portray numbers of individual souls, because the bride is the corporate body. Christ only really has one bride in allegory, and we similarly corporately form the one new man in another allegory....although in yet another sense speaking to another truth, we also each have a new man inwardly, (as opposed to our old man) since we are new creatures.
THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST
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GracePeace
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It's important to bear this in mind--otherwise, we would be relegated to believing Christ must be destroyed in the future, because people idolize Him, since He said He was typified by the Bronze Serpent. There are limitations to each picture that is employed to paint a picture of the truth. If He highlights one aspect, it may just be that one aspect He wanted to highlight, and didn't want people to dig further.
This is all great but the Bible tells us who is the bride .......[Rev 21:9-10 KJV] 9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,...............holy Jerusalem
As far as one new man being an allegory I would say that is not possible because that was revealed thru Paul and when this parable was given there was nothing made known about that.....its all about the kingdom on earth
GracePeace
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LOL
1 Corinthians 3:16Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple, and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?
Jerusalem was known for what? Being the place where God dwelled. Today, God dwells in us.
1 Peter2L5you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
John 2:20The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” 21But He was speaking of the temple of His body. 22So when He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He said this; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had spoken.
If Christ's body is the Temple, and the Church is Christ's body, then the body of Christ is the Temple of God--as Peter and Paul have said.
Revelation 19:7“Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.” 8It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.
GracePeace
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GracePeace
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Bring a substantive response, not an empty one--PROVE that I have erred in understanding the verses I cited that prove my view.
I showed you from Revelation in post #63 what the bride is if you chose to laugh at it
GracePeace
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Right, and I showed you that WE ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD.
What was in "Jerusalem"? God's Temple.
I also showed you "from Revelation" that the Bride clothes herself, and her clothing is the righteous deeds of the saints : the fact that the Bride clothes herself with good deeds, and these good deeds are the good deeds that the saints clothe themselves with, coheres with everything I brought from Scripture.
Want to know what happens with people who don't clothe themselves with good deeds? Mt 22:11-13; Revelation 3; 16:15.
Meanwhile, you have a lone verse which you refuse to reconcile with the rest of Scripture.
GracePeace
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LOL The "bride" is New Jerusalem. What was "Jerusalem" known for being? The dwelling place of God :
Revelation 21: 2I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying:
“Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man,
and He will dwell with them.
They will be His people,
So, His people are His dwelling place, New Jerusalem, the NEW place where God dwells. They are Christ's body, but His body is the Temple of God (Jn 2).
It's perfectly clear!
GracePeace
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Nope, it's talking about the wedding banquet, and I don't think you took the time to glance at the other verses I raised.
The bottom line is you have, in your approach, a bunch of scattered verses, none of which cohere with one another, whereas looking at them in a holistic sense, as I do, reconciling Scripture with Scripture, gives a good depiction of what is going on.
GracePeace
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Right, the bride is the dwelling place of God, and we are the dwelling place of God, and we must clothe ourselves with good deeds, or else we will walk naked, and men see the shame of our nakedness, and we will be thrown out, vomited out of the promised Land.
Big Boy Johnson
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GracePeace
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LOL Christ is the antitype of the promised land, or else He wouldn't have warned "I will vomit you out of My mouth".
Anyway, guy, you mean well, but you don't know your left hand from your right as far as Scripture goes.
When Paul was talking about Gentiles being grafted in he was talking about Gentiles in the remnant of Israel not the body of Christ
He was talking about Gentiles who believed the preaching of Peter as in Acts 10 not believers of Paul's gospel
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