Israel Attacks Iran!

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Big Boy Johnson

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your understanding of God's redemption for Israel is certainly lacking

And of course opinions are like belly buttons every one has one and some have erroneous ones.

Of course the nation of Israel still has not accepted Jesus, but what you don't understand and have missed in scripture is the Lord still loves Israel and He is still actively helping Israel to not be wiped off the map by descendants of the bond woman (islam)

In short the Lord will always help Israel defend itself again islamic aggression and bad thing will continue to happen to those that are enemies to Israel including the United States if they ever decide to quit helping Israel.





You going on vacation or something?
 
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Jay Ross

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And of course opinions are like belly buttons every one has one and some have erroneous ones.

Yes, and you should not expose your appendages either as they are not pretty to look at.

Of course, the nation of Israel still has not accepted Jesus, but what you don't understand and have missed in scripture is the Lord still loves Israel

And what you do not understand is that I have not missed what the scriptures state about Israel. That is an opinion you push, to put down other members of this forum, to falsely bolster your own opinion about your supposed, on your part, scriptural expertise. You have demonstrated the fact that you rely more on the faulty translations which we call "our bibles/scripture" without even spending the time confirming the correctness and contextual accuracy of those same translations.

and He is still actively helping Israel to not be wiped off the map by descendants of the bond woman (islam)

Here in the above quote, you have forgotten Esau's descendants who also want to wipe Israel off of the map.

In short the Lord will always help Israel defend itself again islamic aggression

From Scripture we know that until Israel has completed the time set aside for the visitation of the fathers' iniquities upon their children and the children's children, that God will not incline his ears towards Israel to hear her cries to the Lord, until she repents of those iniquities, which are still happening today. The end of the fourth age of the visitation of the fathers' iniquities upon their descendants still has around 20 years to run.

The 2,300 years of the Little Horn being given armies to trample God's sanctuary and His earthly hosts, also still has around 20 years to run before the completion of the fully prophesied 2,300 years is completed. When we see the fulfilment of Isaiah 24:21-22 and the kings of the earth assembling at the place called Armageddon to be judged by the Lord along with the Heavenly Hosts who will be judged in heaven and together the judged kings of the earth and the heavenly hosts will be imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit for many days, i.e. for 1,000 years, before they receive their punishment. Paul tells us that when the fulness in time of the Gentile kings trampling, under the direction of the Little Horn has come to its completion after 2,300 years, that all of Israel will be saved.

What does this mean? That it is not until after we see the kings of the earth judged at Armageddon that we will see God begin to gather Israel to Himself and that He will teach them on the basis of the foundation stone that comes down out of heaven and plant them in their own fertile field/soil and that this stone will grow to become the largest mountain/religion in all of the earth.

What God is ensuring at the moment, is that a remanent of Israel will remain after the completion of the Gentile's trampling God's earthly hosts.

and bad thing will continue to happen to those that are enemies to Israel including the United States if they ever decide to quit helping Israel.

The kings of the earth that joined with the president of the USA to invade Iraq in 2003, to heal the land instead of destroying the land of Babylon, are already being punished for their acting God like to heal the land of Babylon.

At Armageddon, in around 20 years' time, all of the Kings of the earth will be judged, including the President of the USA and the Prime Minister of Australia, and they will be dispatched into the Bottomless pit to await the time of their punishment.

Have you read all of the Books of the Bible which foretell what will be happening in the end days? To me it seems that you have not, otherwise you would not be making the outlandish claims that you are.

You going on vacation or something?

No, I am suggesting that you should simply go away and hide yourself in shame for the false understanding that you are presenting on this forum.

Goodbye
 

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you should not expose your appendages either as they are not pretty to look at.

How would you know?

You been hacking my cell phone camera trying to get a peak?



I have not missed what the scriptures state about Israel.

Actually you are a few fries short of a happy mean on the topic.

Got that Jew hatred thing going in your posts. You a big supporter of the so called Palestinians are ya?



Esau's descendants who also want to wipe Israel off of the map.

Well you shouldn't caucus with the Jew haters.




God will not incline his ears towards Israel to hear her cries to the Lord, until she repents of those iniquities, which are still happening today.

And yet God is merciful preventing Israel from being destroyed as a nation and continues to help Israel prosper. Weird!



At Armageddon, in around 20 years' time, all of the Kings of the earth will be judged, including the President of the USA and the Prime Minister of Australia, and they will be dispatched into the Bottomless pit to await the time of their punishment.

Unless of course they get born again which would cause the Blood of the Lamb to wipe all their sins away.

You sure enjoy people to be destroyed. You must be one of those calvinists



No, I am suggesting that you should simply go away and hide yourself in shame

I don't let devil put shame on me because I oppose their lies and deceptions.

Better luck next time hoss, you lost this round! :funlaugh2
 

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How would you know?

You been hacking my cell phone camera trying to get a peak?

Why are you taking photos on your mobile phone that really should not be there at all. Do you need photos on your phone to remind yourself of your manhood when you are feeling low.

Actually you are a few fries short of a happy mean on the topic.

What you like Mac fries that much do you. No wonder you are a "big boy," but without the brain power to discern truth.

Got that Jew hatred thing going in your posts. You a big supporter of the so called Palestinians are ya?

This quote only demonstrates that you have no Godly discernment at all, because you always resort to telling lies in your posts.

Well you shouldn't caucus with the Jew haters.

A caucus is a group or meeting of supporters or members of a specific political party or movement. The exact definition varies between different countries.

FYI I do not belong to any particular party or movement. So, this is another lie that you are spinning in a vain attempt to win a forum discussion.

And yet God is merciful preventing Israel from being destroyed as a nation and continues to help Israel prosper. Weird!

Weird, that you are saying that Israel is being prosperous when the reality is that they are being a blessing to many nations with their good works and generosity towards other nations

You sure enjoy people to be destroyed. You must be one of those calvinists

Another lie that you are propagating to show your supposed superiority

I don't let devil put shame on me because I oppose their lies and deceptions.

With your arrogance would you know if you were not a pawn of the devil? Somehow, I do not think that many on this forum would agree with your claim.

Better luck next time hoss, you lost this round!

I had to look up what "hoss" meant and this is what I found: - So, “Hoss” is a southern term. It's a term of endearment. A term used for people you hold in high regard or respect.

As for losing this round, I am not in a peeing contest with you. I am not a Big Boy Johnson.
 

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@Jay Ross can you see Christ saving the tents of Judah first and bending her like a bow?

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Christ will "save the tents of Judah first" (Zech. 12:7), and they will "fight at Jerusalem" against the northern invader (Zech. 14:14). The Jewish population in the land, referred to as 'Judah' will be the driving force and catalyst that inspires the broader return of Israel to the land. In doing so, they will become Yahweh’s arrow against the nations.

A refined 'Judah' will serve as Yahweh’s "majestic horse" in battle, empowered to triumph over the surrounding nations, see Zech. 10:3-5; 12:5-6. @Aunty Jane
 

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@Jay Ross can you see Christ saving the tents of Judah first and bending her like a bow?

Abraham's descendants who returned to the land of Canaan in 1948, as prophesied in Genesis 15:16, did so in their own strength in an attempt to poke the bear, so to speak, which many Christians also believed that the nation of Israel should be recognised.

This is what Zec 9:11-17 tells us.

God Will Save His People

11 "As for you also,
Because of the blood of your covenant,
I will set your prisoners free from the waterless pit.

12 Return to the stronghold,
You prisoners of hope.
Even today I declare
That I will restore double to you.

13 For I have bent Judah, My bow,
Fitted the bow with Ephraim,
And raised up your sons, O Zion,
Against your sons, O Greece,
And made you like the sword of a mighty man.
"

14Then the Lord will be seen over them,
And His arrow will go forth like lightning.
The Lord God will blow the trumpet,

And go with whirlwinds from the south.
15 The Lord of hosts will defend them;
They shall devour and subdue with slingstones.
They shall drink and roar as if with wine;
They shall be filled with blood like basins,
Like the corners of the altar.

16 The Lord their God will save them in that day,
As the flock of His people.
For they shall be like the jewels of a crown,
Lifted like a banner over His Fertile Field

17 For how great is its goodness
And how great {is} its beauty!
Grain shall make the young men thrive,
And new wine {shall make} the young women {thrive}.


Verse 14 is another description of the Armageddon event when the Lord will Judge the Kings of the earth. In Luke 14, Jesus tells us that Israel will be watching this battle of God judging the kings of the earth and that the Nation of Israel will seek God's terms of peace for them. The end of that chapter gives a warning that if Israel has lost its saltiness, then they will be discarded and thrown out onto the garbage heap.

Paul tells us that after the end of the 2,300 years of the collective nation of Israel being trampled. that all of Israel will be saved.

In Ezekiel 34, God tells us that He will gather all of Israel to Himself where they are scattered throughout all of the earth. He also promises a covenant of peace with Israel with the removal of all of the heavenly beasts and Satan from the face of the earth for a period of time.

Then after the 1,000 years that the Beasts from among the Heavenly hosts will be released for a little while period and that this will cause the two flocks to be separated after which He will then separate the Rams from the he-Goats.

God tells us to be watchers of His handy work in dealing with the rebellions that will take place on the earth.

Shalom,
 

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Abraham's descendants who returned to the land of Canaan in 1948, as prophesied in Genesis 15:16, did so in their own strength in an attempt to poke the bear, so to speak, which many Christians also believed that the nation of Israel should be recognised.

This is what Zec 9:11-17 tells us.

God Will Save His People

11 "As for you also,
Because of the blood of your covenant,
I will set your prisoners free from the waterless pit.

12 Return to the stronghold,
You prisoners of hope.
Even today I declare
That I will restore double to you.

13 For I have bent Judah, My bow,
Fitted the bow with Ephraim,
And raised up your sons, O Zion,
Against your sons, O Greece,
And made you like the sword of a mighty man.
"

14Then the Lord will be seen over them,
And His arrow will go forth like lightning.
The Lord God will blow the trumpet,

And go with whirlwinds from the south.
15 The Lord of hosts will defend them;
They shall devour and subdue with slingstones.
They shall drink and roar as if with wine;
They shall be filled with blood like basins,
Like the corners of the altar.

16 The Lord their God will save them in that day,
As the flock of His people.
For they shall be like the jewels of a crown,
Lifted like a banner over His Fertile Field

17 For how great is its goodness
And how great {is} its beauty!
Grain shall make the young men thrive,
And new wine {shall make} the young women {thrive}.


Verse 14 is another description of the Armageddon event when the Lord will Judge the Kings of the earth. In Luke 14, Jesus tells us that Israel will be watching this battle of God judging the kings of the earth and that the Nation of Israel will seek God's terms of peace for them. The end of that chapter gives a warning that if Israel has lost its saltiness, then they will be discarded and thrown out onto the garbage heap.

Paul tells us that after the end of the 2,300 years of the collective nation of Israel being trampled. that all of Israel will be saved.

In Ezekiel 34, God tells us that He will gather all of Israel to Himself where they are scattered throughout all of the earth. He also promises a covenant of peace with Israel with the removal of all of the heavenly beasts and Satan from the face of the earth for a period of time.

Then after the 1,000 years that the Beasts from among the Heavenly hosts will be released for a little while period and that this will cause the two flocks to be separated after which He will then separate the Rams from the he-Goats.

God tells us to be watchers of His handy work in dealing with the rebellions that will take place on the earth.

Shalom,
Looks like you have many of the ingredients correct however the nation of Israel becomes the foundation of the Kingdom of God at the beginning of the 1000 year reign. Tents of David rebuilt etc.
 

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Looks like you have many of the ingredients correct however the nation of Israel becomes the foundation of the Kingdom of God at the beginning of the 1000 year reign. Tents of David rebuilt etc.

Yes, and that will occur at the end of the 4th age of the existence of the nation of Israel from the time of Isaac's birth, in around 20 years' time.

In Daniel 2's statue prophecy, we are told that God will establish His everlasting Kingdom during the time of those kings which will occur in around 20 years' time as well which coincides with the end of the fourth age of the nation of Israel.

We all need to know how all of the events of the unfolding "End Times" are interwoven and are to be sequenced.

The 1000-year reign of Christ begins at this same time frame in around 20 years' time from now.
 

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So you think the prophecy in Genesis 15:16 is lie then?

No, just the understanding that many theological commentators hold on what this prophecy is telling us and when it was to occur.

This prophecy has not yet come to its completion yet. However, it will end in around 20 years' time when the iniquities of the Amorites
comes to fulfilment.
 

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But, it's great that the Lord saw to it that Israel was re-established as a nation and has caused many of Abraham's descendants to come from all over the world back to the Land that belongs to God so when Jesus does return there is an Israel for Him to return to.

I think it's funny that all the racists Jew haters get so upset that islam will never be able to wipe Israel off the map because the Lord keeps them protected as we are seeing in the war with Iran where Israel definitely has the upper hand and the US is being blessed by supporting Israel as they engage in self defense to prevent the nutjob jihadis from getting nukes! :csm
 

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Iran has a nuclear research facility inside a mountain they claim is about 300 feet down

It'll be interesting to see the US use it's bunker busting bombs to get that far down and Trump needs to learn how to shut up when it comes to military operations. This stuff needs to be low key.

We'll soon see if the islamic crazy people really have operatives that came across the southern border during sleepy Joe's open border policy era. If they do then we will see terrorist attacks here in the US at some point so it's not a good time to go places where large crowds of people are gathering like sporting events, concerts, etc.

And since the mexican cartels are working with the the islamic crazy people, the US military may be invading mexico before long to carry our preemptive strikes for our own national security. If they happens, the price of tacos is gonna go way up! :Ohz