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KUWN

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Recently, one of God's highest-ranking angels, Michael, was personally dispatched by God Himself to come to earth in order to reveal to me, of all people, that God has grown sick and tired of all religions. To make a long story short, Michael has given me a new revelation, which, once again, will establish a new religion, not unlike Islam and Mormons.



Basically, this new religion, known as 'apax, has very few changes from God's previous revelations to Muhammad and Joseph Smith. Perhaps the most critical change is that salvation is now based on one's acceptance of this new religion.



In Michael's words, he said, "Write this down: Salvation is now granted to all who join 'apax. Tell all people who want to go to heaven to join this new religion. It is that simple." I think we can all agree that simple is better, especially in light of all the religions in the world today.



But I got to thinking…



When God sent the angel Gabriel in the late 500's to reveal to Muhammad God's new message, which new message established the Islamic religion, God made known His new plan for mankind in a somewhat private manner. For reasons unknown, God revealed His new message to Muhammad in a non-public, non-verifiable way. But nevertheless, He was able to get the message to Muhammad, and through Muhammad, to the rest of the world. It's not the way I would have done it, but God knows best.



Some 1300 years later, when the angel Moroni appeared to Joseph Smith to reveal another new revelation from God, He did so, again, in what was none other than a private way. That is, the angel revealed the new revelation to Joseph only. But once again, Joseph was able to get the message out and start a new religion, the Mormon religion.



Consistent with His last known methods of revelation to mankind, God revealed to me ONLY this new religion, 'apax. And now it is my turn to make this new religion known to the entire world, and that I shall do, and in darn short order.



You know, I sure wish God would reveal His new messages to mankind in a way similar to the way He did with Jesus. At least there would be less confusion or suspicion if He were consistent. For example, for hundreds of years, God spoke through the prophets, informing the world that Jesus was coming. And to make matters a bit more palatable, God gave the time and location of Jesus' earthly appearance. It was so obvious to the world, that even the blind people recognized Jesus as the fulfillment of prophecy.



Then, in most remarkable fashion, Jesus began to perform public miracles, and not just any miracles, but the very miracles that the Old Testament predicted hundreds of years earlier. And Jesus' miracles were verifiable, undeniably supernatural, and, therefore, served to confirm that He indeed was the fulfillment of prophecy.



What stands out in my mind about Jesus, unlike all others since, including myself, is that God was very much providing undeniable proof of Jesus' message. When Jesus raised the dead, people took note, and people were seized with fear and reverence. The supernatural dimension to Jesus' life was open to public view.



Muhammad, Joseph, and myself are at a distinct disadvantage; none of us can perform one miracle, none of us were prophesized about, and to be honest, I wouldn't blame anyone who calls us all fakes. After all, the impression one gets from reading the New Testament is that God gave His final revelation with Jesus. In fact, more than one author says exactly that.



And yet I am up to the challenge. I will get this new religion started, since God has changed things again. He is sovereign, and if He chooses to change things on us again, who are we to question Him?



I would like to make one last plea to God: next time You change religions on us, do it like you did with Jesus.



Jesus asked those who heard His message NOT to believe it, unless He could provide undeniable proof of His true identity. What can I do to convince the world that God has spoken to me?



I guess God knows what He is doing, but realistically, who is going to believe me? Better yet, who ought to believe me?



:eek: )
 
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Recently, one of God's highest-ranking angels, Michael, was personally dispatched by God Himself to come to earth in order to reveal to me, of all people, that God has grown sick and tired of all religions.

No, the Lord is teaching thru His Word and the Holy Spirit.



Michael has given me a new revelation, which, once again, will establish a new religion, not unlike Islam and Mormons.

You've been visited by a demon!



In Michael's words, he said, "Write this down: Salvation is now granted to all who join 'apax.
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You should let people know you were joking.

Otherwise it sounds like the demons have taken you over.
It was intuitively obvious. God does not give revelations to people in secret to start a new religion. Use Christ as your authoritative example. See the article for why.
 

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It’s not intuitively obvious to everyone @KUWN. There are millions upon millions of people who believe that he has.

Know your audience. Is it possible that you’ve misled some of yours? Not everyone will get your joke.

It’s not a joking matter.
 
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It was intuitively obvious.

In this day and age of mass deception, not so much.

If you do not let people know you are joking, they'll all wanna sign up to join your new apax religious club, make you their king, and throw women and money at your feet

Somebody's probably building the apax religious club website now and getting setup to take donations!
 

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Have you considered deleting or moving this thread to one of the joke threads @KUWN? I don’t think many would find it funny but at least it would be somewhere less likely to mislead someone.
 

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Have you considered deleting or moving this thread to one of the joke threads @KUWN? I don’t think many would find it funny but at least it would be somewhere less likely to mislead someone.

Meh people don't care if they cause someone to stumble these days.

They'll say it's not their problem.
 

Matthias

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Meh people don't care if they cause someone to stumble these days.

They'll say it's not their problem.

I think there’s a lot of truth in your statement but - based on my limited interaction with, and observation of, @KUWN - I don’t think he falls into that category.

I might be mistaken but I think his intention was good, just not well thought out. I’ve occasionally been in that position and took corrective measures when it occurred to me or when someone gently brought it to my attention. Maybe that will prove to be the case with him. I’m hoping that it will be.

P.S.

It’s been a while since he has responded to messages I’ve posted to him. That suggests to me at least the possibility that he may have me on ignore. Perhaps if others whom he routinely corresponds with speak to him about the matter he’ll decide to delete or move the thread.
 
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KUWN

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In this day and age of mass deception, not so much.

If you do not let people know you are joking, they'll all wanna sign up to join your new apax religious club, make you their king, and throw women and money at your feet

Somebody's probably building the apax religious club website now and getting setup to take donations!
I've decided to Ignore you because you appear to be a babe in Christ and the way I write could offend you.
 

Matthias

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Have you been mistreating him? :funlaugh2

No. I’ve been complimentary of him. If he is ignoring me it would be because of my primitive Christian faith, not because of anything I’ve said about him. It might just be that he hasn’t found anything in what I’ve posted to his attention that he felt warranted a reply. I don’t know, but he strikes me as someone who is sincere and lacking any desire to mislead anyone.
 

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I've decided to Ignore you because you appear to be a babe in Christ and the way I write could offend you.

At least I'm not a nutjob claiming to be in Christ while posting fake stories about starting a new religion from some angel.

I've heard some ridiculous stories over the years but this one about takes the cake! :funlaugh2
 

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I've decided to Ignore you because you appear to be a babe in Christ and the way I write could offend you.

Only if you use an elephant gun to shot him with, but his hide is so thick and tough that the bullet would not do that much damage to him at all. The other thing is that his ears are much closer to each other than the elephant's ears.